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Supercar rally cars
January 13, 2015 02:54PM
Thoughts?
We have the Tuthill Porsche
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/motor/videos/test-tuthill-porsche-997-rgt/index.html

The Aston Martin
http://www.mat.fi/gallery/85

The Brakim Lamborghini Gallardo.
http://www.brakimghini.com/



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 13, 2015 03:16PM
More power to em I suppose. They all have one thing in common, they want to have fun and stand out. I guess if I had those kind of funds and no other financial responsibilities... it'd be hard to not take a look at something unconventional like that if you already convinced yourself you won't run near the top in a spec WRC car.
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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 13, 2015 08:51PM
thoughts...
* kudos to anybody who's able to gather up that many funds and watch 'em burn, and chooses to do so in this manner.
* Kudos to the FIA for recognizing that "lightly modified" (relative) cars like these for $300k(?) are no less interesting, and no higher barrier to entry, than the current $500+k shell-of-an-econobox-that's-barely-recogniziable WRC cars, to the general public.

pretty bummed that they chose to make the R-GT cup Tarmac only though... I get that including gravel would require a whole second kit to be homologated (see also, why the Tuthill Porsche wasn't allowed to start Rally GB 2014), but if they're trying to be competitive, teams are going to have to develop a whole different setup for the Monte anyways.

Loeb's one-off at Monte aside, I'd be just as interested (if not moreso) to watch 30 minutes of highlights of the RGT class as the WRC cars... It's not like VW isn't going to walk away with the title for a third year in a row.



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 15, 2015 06:10AM
How expensive is it to build, say, a new Porsche, versus a top spec Escort? Aren't those running well into the six-figures range?



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 16, 2015 05:07PM
Is Matt planning on sleeving back the 5.2l or something? The only class that I know of that the car is legal for is NRS's Stock Heavy.



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 16, 2015 05:44PM
I think he's planning to run it rwd.



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 16, 2015 06:24PM
Well, it's still beyond the displacement limits of either RA or NRS's 2WD classes (5.2l, 4v). I suppose it could run in RA's SP, or NRS's Stock Hea...er, Medium. Neither of those have caps.



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 16, 2015 08:16PM
2wd have caps?



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 16, 2015 10:36PM
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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 17, 2015 02:22AM
Yep.

RA 10.2.A.3
For Open Class and Group 5; adjusted engine displacement must be
no greater then 5100cc using the following multipliers:
Type Multiplier
Rotary 1.8
Turbo/Supercharged 1.7
Pushrod 0.8
All applicable multipliers must be used in determining adjusted
displacement.

Group 2 is in RA 10.2.A.9, and the cap is 3080cc.


NRS 2WD limits are in Section 3.3.2, and the adjusted limit for Open 2WD Heavy is 6000cc, but the multiplier table there includes valves per cylinder among other things. Four or more is a 1.2 multiplier. For the Lambo, 5.2l * 1.2 = 6.24.

Note that he can run the 5.0l variant of the engine legally in either series. I'd thought that they only made the 5.0l variant for a brief period early in the first year, but according to wikipedia all the first-gen models were 5.0l so he's probably just fine.



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 17, 2015 12:27PM
would he a 7 liter motor not be allowed to run at all, or just not earn series points?
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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 18, 2015 07:06PM
its not the 5.2 liter its a 5.0 liter according to him. I asked him that in his very first FB post about building the car.



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 27, 2015 04:37PM
another Aston

And video of its first outing



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 27, 2015 08:43PM
Easy come, easy go, eh?
You guys must be loose on who you give licences to.

Or are they free in every box of Flakie-wakes breakfast cereal?

Cause those guys look like they're menaces..

Then again most rich-guy LOOK AT ME!!!!!! type guys are like that...



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Re: Supercar rally cars
January 28, 2015 12:25PM
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another Aston

And video of its first outing




Maybe I'm just a really bad person-but all I can think of after viewing that is.....







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