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inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 08:46AM
Inverted suspension
on cars, atv, gocarts

On bumpy dirt trails what does it do



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 08:50AM
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Inverted suspension
on cars, atv, gocarts

On bumpy dirt trails what does it do

same thing that non-inverted suspension does?



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 09:32AM
works good, lasts a long time.
Impresses your friends.

Washes your clothes cleaner and brighter and leaves no ring around your collar.



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 09:47AM
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Inverted suspension
on cars, atv, gocarts

On bumpy dirt trails what does it do

Vague post is vague.

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works good, lasts a long time.
Impresses your friends.

Washes your clothes cleaner and brighter and leaves no ring around your collar.

Surely you mean the Thermomix! It's a steal at only $1800!!!!!
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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 10:12AM
google, boys round these parts perfer to discuss the mo technical aspsect of hows, round here folks are more like why in increments of 64's mixed in with a lil physics cross strained with some good ole home fabricatin . now get on outta here boy and use them letters on ya Internet device and make some questions for google. no need to be botherin these boys they busy



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 11:11AM
I was under there impression that you people know something but hey I guess I'm wrong and you people just get your know how from Google

Good to know


Btw I literally just quit my job becuase the boss that new the answer to my question just said use your best judgement
so I just left and he asked where I was going and I said use your best judgment I like my answers straight forward and precise must be what the Marines installed in me and
who was that boss non other but my dad I didn't have time to go read forums all day bUT now, now I do so I won't ask anybody on here anything ever again not that I would get an answer anyways you people are to lazy and sardonic to provide the simplest of answers and John I feel like your just that guy in his bath robe with a big creepy 70's mustache and glasses just stocking this form justwaiting for somebody to post their "big long thick roll bar" and their oh so amazing "roll over" I ether think your an nsa agent or a pedobear its fucka creepy l!!



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 11:12AM
The largest benefit of an inverted design over non-inverted is strength. A tube on 50 mm diameter is stronger than a tube of 40 mm diameter is stronger than a rod of 10 mm diameter.



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 11:30AM
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The largest benefit of an inverted design over non-inverted is strength. A tube on 50 mm diameter is stronger than a tube of 40 mm diameter is stronger than a rod of 10 mm diameter.

Thank you so it's just stronger?

it doesn't pull down on the rod more? not that,that makes any sense haha.



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 11:37AM
sorry if my text came off the wrong way, point being theres lotsa info on the web with a bit of diggin (hence the prospector slang)



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 11:52AM
The reason I pointed out your vague post was vague, is that there are many typed of inverted suspension. Just a shock hanging upside down? Inverted/DeCarbon strut design? Axle over frame with shocks in tension? Those can all be seen as "inverted" designs.

The inverted design in a McPherson strut design has the main benefit of being stiffer and stringer since the slidding tube is 40 or 50mm in diameter instead of 13-22mm. Bending stiffness in a solid round bar is related to the radius or diameter raised to the 4th power. Double the diameter of the shaft and it's a drastic increase in stiffness.

Running just a damper inverted is usually done to decrease the amount of un-sprung weight. It also has the benefit of usually protecting the shock body from dents (big deal with mono-tube shocks). Look at off-road trucks and most pavement racing cars that are not using struts.
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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 11:56AM
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I was under there impression that you people know something but hey I guess I'm wrong and you people just get your know how from Google

Good to know


Btw I literally just quit my job becuase the boss that new the answer to my question just said use your best judgement
so I just left and he asked where I was going and I said use your best judgment I like my answers straight forward and precise must be what the Marines installed in me and
who was that boss non other but my dad I didn't have time to go read forums all day bUT now, now I do so I won't ask anybody on here anything ever again not that I would get an answer anyways you people are to lazy and sardonic to provide the simplest of answers and John I feel like your just that guy in his bath robe with a big creepy 70's mustache and glasses just stocking this form justwaiting for somebody to post their "big long thick roll bar" and their oh so amazing "roll over" I ether think your an nsa agent or a pedobear its fucka creepy l!!

No, kid some of us know but we also have seen what happens when we waste time educating people who are too lazy to write a clear question or bother to do any research of effort on their own.
You got an excellent answer to your lousy question...

Did the Marines teach you to be vague and then cry when somebody declined to do your work for you?

The answer "works good, last a long time" is the answer a very very experience CPO used to tell my brother when he was some young swabbie and when he'd ask some dumb question about junk HE WASN'T WORKING ON...

Your signature thing there says "Hondas"....you don't have inverted suspension, you have some spindly weird alleged double A arm junk.

So why are you asking?.


Get the chip off your shoulder, kid... quit whining.
Write like an adult.

I gotta go weld on some inverted suspension.



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 12:10PM
i have kicked the idea of linkage arm suspension on a car just like the rear of an mx bike
http://www.enduro360.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2011-KTM-350-SX-F-17.jpg
or a rocker arm like an F1 car would use
http://www.robcollingridge.com/kitcar/drive/2007/03/2007_03_28_Suspension.jpg
i like the idea but don't to get in to the fabrication right now
there is something to be said for simple too



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 12:46PM
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Your signature thing there says "Hondas"....you don't have inverted suspension, you have some spindly weird alleged double A arm junk.

So why are you asking?.

Point of order: one could, with a little work, run their dampers inverted on a double A arm honda.

Only real gains would be (as Robert mentioned) the decreased unsprung weight - once you're putting a gravel tire on there, the weight of the shock body has got to be a pretty low %age...

But hey, it'd be unique! And I hear the girls go crazy for unique rally car stuff!



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 02:23PM
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I just quit my job because the boss that knew the answer to my question just said, "use your best judgement." So I just left. He asked where I was going and I said, "use your best judgment." I like my answers straight forward and precise must be what the Marines instilled in me. Who was that boss? None other than my dad.

Don't take this the wrong way. It sounds to me like your dad was trying to get you to be a man and make a decision without needing his advice. The Marines may have instilled a need for direction and an authority figure telling you and leading you where you need to be but in most of the world, what people want and need is someone who has the intelligence and bravery to make a decision using their best judgement and be willing to accept the consequences of that decision, for better or worse.
Did it occur to you that maybe your dad wants to evaluate your best judgement and help guide you from your mistakes? If he's the boss does that mean that maybe, just maybe he's trying to slowly start preparing you to take over when he no longer has the ability or passion to do so?

This quote came to mind for some reason.
β€œIt's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question and he'll look for his own answers.”
― Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Man's Fear



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Re: inverted suspension
April 14, 2015 03:35PM
Well this here here tells me I should put a wheel on before I flip the suspension haha



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