Meanwhile in Oregon
Posted by john vanlandingham
Kevin Morrison Super Moderator Location: Puyallup, WA Join Date: 03/03/2014 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 81 Rally Car: 1998 Subaru Imp |
That's more like it. If you're not impressed by a wheat farmer/parts store manager/super nice guy on a regional privateer's budget posting those times in his 4th event... well 
I have to agree with hoche and everyone else trying to follow from a distance. RA needs to step up the scoring. If it wasn't for social media and texts from guys in service staying up to date was very difficult. Higgins and Duplessis weren't the only ones to blow motors. A couple of the OL guys did too. |
Oliver Klozoff Junior Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
Dang dawg, that broken bit sure looks rather thin, who thought that was a good idea to put on a rally car? 
as you can see here, there's no meat to the outer upright. And then it's sleeved! you know, to remove extra strength. Whoever thought this was a good idea should thank his lucky stars no one was hurt or killed either on stage on a public road! "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
Don K. Oates Super Moderator Location: Strathmore, AB Join Date: 01/19/2015 Age: Settling Down Posts: 137 Rally Car: looking |
John Vanlandingham Infallible Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
John Vanlandingham Infallible Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
I'm of course way concerned any time there is a failure, particularly an odd failure... Odd in that the exact design ran for years and years on other cars here in the PNW... And sleeve....Those units was done and delivered originally for Arno, and I don't recall using any sleeves in there...I would remember, so I wonder... Reports were that somebody called a note wrong and they "hit a rock"...lotta rocks out there so I sure as hell hope it was a big rock...Very concerned, and baffled... Of course we'll never know. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
"oh! you're the one!" Mega Moderator Location: Hazel Dell, WA Join Date: 02/22/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,390 Rally Car: 1974 Dodge Colt, under construction |
Kevin Morrison Super Moderator Location: Puyallup, WA Join Date: 03/03/2014 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 81 Rally Car: 1998 Subaru Imp |
"oh! you're the one!" Mega Moderator Location: Hazel Dell, WA Join Date: 02/22/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,390 Rally Car: 1974 Dodge Colt, under construction |
Robert Gobright Junior Moderator Location: White Center Seattle Join Date: 04/27/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,292 Rally Car: 91 VW GTI 8V |
Oliver Klozoff Junior Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
Then what do you call the sleeve the bolt is currently residing in? lets zoom in some 
that sure the heck doesn't look like the bolt, you would see the back side of the hole if it was. "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
Oliver Klozoff Junior Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
Not unless the bolt and hole are so perfectly machined together, and the bolt is a shoulder bolt with the exact length that is looks like a sleeve. If that's the case, I will stand corrected, but that would go against most everything I have ever seen when mounting struts to spindles.
 "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
Oliver Klozoff Junior Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
Ok, I'm going to bust your chops for a second, and then give credit where credit is due. I see what you are trying to do with the whole system, 
Your goal is to make the strut line up as straight as possible with the original, the problem with that system is where you need to mount the strut. Your plan is to mount it to outside of the strut and fit a mounting system between the strut and the rotor. This leaves little room for a mounting system, hence the reason why everything needs to be compact. There was no doubt it broke at the bolt, and there is no doubt it broke on the outside first. If you were to draw a force diagram of what happens when the bottom of the tire has an inward force the outside of the upright goes into tension and the fact it's rather small, it tore first. Which is why I had noticed a positive camber as they were leaving for sunday. When you look at something say, like a subaru, the lower hole is behind a crap ton of metal on the outside. 
This is capable of withstanding that tension force. That all being said, it's an interesting idea, but honestly, it needs a lot more metal in there. As for the others that are out there using this, I feel they have gotten lucky to this point. As for your credit where credit is due, I do like your tabs on your shocks. Very robust looking and the fact they wrap partially around the housing is much stronger than others I have seen where they are virtually a butt joint to the tube. "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
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