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SCCA's "Stepped" plan for Rally in the USA-Good idea or bound to fizzle?

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Re: SCCA's "Stepped" plan for Rally in the USA-Good idea or bound to fizzle?
December 29, 2015 04:38PM
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Interesting. RallySprint limitation: "Maximum speeds on straights should not normally exceed 70 miles per hour for the fastest vehicles."

Not the average for the stage, just an instantaneous 70 mph. How long would it take for a "medium strength" turbo awd car to reach this? It seems like it would take most "proper stages" out of contention?

Anders

Interestingly when the issue came up for RallyCross (damn spikycaps) it turned out the 60mph was a sustained speed and not a momentary blip.

I've seen over that, in smooth and straight sections, but the problem is some people don't know how to design for shit so they might make a long sweeping curve with lumps in it so people are catching air sideways at high speed - which is a dealbreaker.

One year at Nationals (no points for guessing correctly) some people went on course walk and made a game of pointing out how many rules violations there were...



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Re: SCCA's "Stepped" plan for Rally in the USA-Good idea or bound to fizzle?
December 29, 2015 07:14PM
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RallyTrials Courses
1 RallyTrials courses shall be placed on relatively level, smooth dirt or gravel surfaces and shall
avoid incorporating significant elevation changes or abrupt high-speed turns. Course design
should normally provide a combination of flowing turns connected by short straight
sections.
2 Maximum speeds on straights should not normally exceed 60 miles per hour for the fastest
vehicles.

"Relatively level", "shall avoid", and "should not normally" are not complete restrictions. smiling smiley



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Re: SCCA's "Stepped" plan for Rally in the USA-Good idea or bound to fizzle?
December 29, 2015 07:15PM
The question I have is can the roll bar brace be a bracket bolting to the stock upper seat belt mount or does it have to be attached back to the rear tower area?



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Re: SCCA's "Stepped" plan for Rally in the USA-Good idea or bound to fizzle?
January 01, 2016 03:39PM
so far it looks pretty good to me.
lower cost to build a car and lower entry fees



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Re: SCCA's "Stepped" plan for Rally in the USA-Good idea or bound to fizzle?
January 04, 2016 11:23AM
I assume the elevation changes thing is to prevent putting a jump on the course with cars that really aren't prepped for it. I seem to remember that being a big deal at a certain rallycross venue, jumps were very much a no-no for some insurance/legal reason..

I recall seeing over 80 mph in the old turbo beetle on 2 different rallycross courses, and one autocross. One of those rallycrosses had a "hill" that was almost a jump at that speed. At another one on snow, that 80+ straight ended with a L1 onto tarmac with the timing trailer nearby... I was sure someone was going through it eventually, but the snow got to the point that the speeds dropped later in the day.

It'd be hard to design a course that stayed under 70 mph.



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Not sure this should be my 1st post. Here we go.

I'm the founder of StatelineRallycross.com entering our 3rd season in Northern IL and 1st season in Arkansas with both timed events and head to head rallycross events.

We along with Indiana Rallycross have been doing "rallytrials" for a few years. I knew there was more to Rallycross than what most SCCA events offered. We started SLRC to help Drivers enjoy longer courses without cones.

I hope you will take time to see out page, FB page and come out to enjoy our events.

Where would be the best place here to post info about our group and events?

I wish SCCA and the other Rallycross programs the best, Dustin



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Not sure this should be my 1st post. Here we go.

I'm the founder of StatelineRallycross.com entering our 3rd season in Northern IL and 1st season in Arkansas with both timed events and head to head rallycross events.

We along with Indiana Rallycross have been doing "rallytrials" for a few years. I knew there was more to Rallycross than what most SCCA events offered. We started SLRC to help Drivers enjoy longer courses without cones.

I hope you will take time to see out page, FB page and come out to enjoy our events.

Where would be the best place here to post info about our group and events?

I wish SCCA and the other Rallycross programs the best, Dustin

Hi Dustin, rally here is a good place...
For those who don't do the Faceplace book thing why dontcha post rules and classes and piccies!
More piccies!
Sound like fun to get to boot it a bit.



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Re: SCCA's "Stepped" plan for Rally in the USA-Good idea or bound to fizzle?
May 17, 2016 07:16PM
Hi Dustin....

Looks like you guys have a nice program back there-good luck to you...

In other news..the June 5th SoCal debut SCCA RallyTrial I posted about earlier in the thread is still on... but now has apparently absolutely nothing to do with SCCA...hmm...



It's now called a "rallyx special" and still requires a roll bar and full cotton clothing

http://myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.Show?psevent_id=15682

http://www.dirally.com/forums/showthread.php?34208-Porterfield-RallyX-2-RallyX-Special-Glen-Helen-Jun-4-5


Works for me...except my junk still ain't running....hopefully there is a next time...
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