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So now there is a quasi-open class?

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So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 09:50AM
Anyone read the bulletin this morning?



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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 10:15AM
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Anyone read the bulletin this morning?

"THE" bulletin?

Read a lot so far but not sure if you're serious..link?



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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 10:36AM
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Anyone read the bulletin this morning?

"THE" bulletin?

Read a lot so far but not sure if you're serious..link?

You know John, THE bulletin. Remember?!

Also, I haz your bell housing for you. I'll bring it up next time I'm heading that way, or you can arrange someone to pick it up.
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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 11:43AM
http://www.rally-america.com/RuleBulletin/Rule_Bulletin_2015_004.pdf

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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 12:38PM
Wow, it's actually called "National Limited Open". That is oxymoronically fantastic. smiling smiley

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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 01:03PM
So, let's say that a "national" competitor is one who has competed on both coasts. So for RA, that would mean they've done either (NEFR or STPR) AND (Oly or OT).

Here's the entire list of "national" drivers:

Adam Yeoman
Art Gruszka
Cameron Steely
David Higgins
Garry Gill
James Robinson
Lauchlin O'Sullivan
Nick Roberts
Pete Fetela
Steve LaRoza
Troy Miller
Chris Duplessis
David Sterckx
Jeff Seehorn
Ramana Lagemann
Tracey Gardiner

That is all 16 of the "national" competitors in the entire country. This is a more generous definition than the number of drivers who did the entire RA national series (just five of them). Or even the list of racers who almost did them all, but missed just one event. There were five of those too. (Meaning that a total of 10 people did EITHER 7 OR 8 events.)

So for 16 drivers there are now 5 classes. If Roberts really does go to run Canada next year... that means means EVERYONE CAN GET TROPHIES! grinning smiley

Just keep that in mind as far as the importance of any of the usual winter machinations... "national" stuff affects approximately just four percent of the drivers in this country. For 96 percent of the drivers it won't have much of an effect one way or the other.

But will there be SO MUCH interest in the new class that they'll eventually have to break it out into NLO-Pro and NLO-Am?????? Cause I've heard that Vin Diesel and Justin Bieber are already thinking about entering. winking smiley

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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 01:56PM
Is NLO just SP without weight restrictions? It seems redundant with SP in a lot of ways.
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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 02:33PM
More podiums with less than 3 cars on them!
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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 04:18PM
Maybe there will soon be a new "Ultra-Super Production" class that will finally bridge the gap between Super Production and National Limited Open.


But seriously, my guess is that all but 3 or 4 "Open" class cars already fall into the NLO class so why didn't they just revise the Open rules and let those 3-4 competitors change their cars --- these are the same competitors that have new fresh shells every season or so (sometimes more frequently)...



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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 04:36PM
Time for the gofunme's to start!

SWAP ALL THE THINGS!

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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 04:54PM
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Time for the gofunme's to start!

SWAP ALL THE THINGS!

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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 05:03PM
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Time for the gofunme's to start!

SWAP ALL THE THINGS!

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Da New Rules
The engine block and cylinder head must be OE from the
entered manufacturer, produced in minimum numbers of 1,000 in
a model year.
o. Cylinder heads and blocks may only be modified by scraping
(removal) of material. Material may not be added to a cylinder
head or block.

That's only for the new & improved stupor production...I read as though in a real open class (Open, Open Light, G2, & G5), that there is no requirement for engine and chassis mfgr to be related. Did I miss something?

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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 05:08PM
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Did I miss something?

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Yes, those classes already expressly state the same exact thing....



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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 05:19PM
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Did I miss something?

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Yes, those classes already expressly state the same exact thing....

Ok, so I didn't go re-read the full rule book, but if they're striking the part below:

"but, in vehicles entered in National Championship rallies, it must be derived (at least the engine block) from a product line offered by the manufacturer of the vehicle."

...doesn't that now mean engine swaps are allowed and don't need to be derived from mfgr?

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Re: So now there is a quasi-open class?
December 03, 2015 05:23PM
So its sounds like people didn't like having one or two cars finishing first overall due to a gap in preparation?



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