Mad Matt F Matt Follett Junior Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 645 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
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johnhuebbe John Huebbe Ultra Moderator Location: St. Peters, MO Join Date: 08/31/2012 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 283 Rally Car: 1970 VW Beetle & 1991 Subaru Legacy |
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Not Trolling Keith Morison Mod Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 09/15/2015 Age: Ancient Posts: 340 |
I think it is less the bend than the gaping hole - in a straight line - in the front tube. I have little doubt Hurst has had a good look at the damage... but wouldn't expect any sort of formal 'report' on it. I strongly suspect the sanctioning bodies simply don't have the funding to do proper investigations and reports. First Rally attended (2000), First Rally competed in (2001) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Driver (8), Co-Driver (47), Drivers (19) Clerk (29), Steward (1), Official (17), Volunteer (5) WRC Spectator (1), WRC Photographer (6), WRC Observer (4) Rallies attended (120) Countries attended rallies in (11) Last Updated, May30, 2022 |
Mad Matt F Matt Follett Junior Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 645 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
yeah Keith, exactly my point... I do wood, not steel, but that is not a typical failure for "tubing " being bent... whatever it's made of. |
Eric Ewert Eric Ewert Junior Moderator Location: Calgary, Ab Join Date: 05/13/2013 Age: Settling Down Posts: 366 Rally Car: volvo 240 |
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Slightly warmed over 4AG, dual Webers, Ford t9, some JVABs from a Corolla, 4-link with a panhard bar, really nice brakes. It is extremely light too. |
NoCoast Grant Hughes Ultra Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
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Mad Matt F Matt Follett Junior Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 645 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
Grant,
with all due respect to the incident involved... if the interpretation of the picture is that the front tube actually sheared where the pic seems to indicate, that is a bizarre failure. one would expect buckling forces to crumple the front of the tube, leaving the "back side" or tension side intact (as the "a pillar bar" shows). i suspect your are correct mentioning the weld, but that implies a big stress riser at that point... probably something to consider for design no? gusset? big rubber shock absorber? just play video games? |
dunhamr1 Ryan Dunham Ultra Moderator Location: Hurst, TX Join Date: 09/17/2015 Age: Settling Down Posts: 158 Rally Car: 1989 Merkur XR4Ti |
We lost the throttle connection in the Jetta on the first stage. Managed to get the first triangle down before the next car on stage (30 sec intervals at PIR). Andy spent ten min upside down in the car with me handing him tools. We thought we had it fixed, and I picked up the triangles, only to have to put them all back out.
Coolant out of the relief valve on the first stage came in the cabin until we got the radiator fan on high and that went away. Running out of gas on the last stage, had a lot of fuel cutting and fuel pump cavitation and lost a lot of time, 2min ish. Ran out of gas on transit after, got towed into a gas station by another competitor and managed to make our in min for the MTC. Would have likely been 3rd in G2 without the fuel problems on day 2. Solid day on day three, except for a last min service fix with associated 10second service-out penalty. We got a flat on the last stage and drove on it for the last 3 miles, through the rough corners. We took second to Tim O'neil in G2, great stages and beautiful scenery. |
hoche Michel Hoche-Mong Mod Moderator Location: Campbell, CA Join Date: 02/28/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,156 Rally Car: Golf, Golf, RX-3 |
Alla y'all: maybe save the analysis for times when you have more than just hearsay and a single blurry picture to go on? Self-righteous douche canoe |
Mad Matt F Matt Follett Junior Moderator Location: La Belle Province, Montreal Join Date: 03/13/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 645 Rally Car: Don't Laugh, the Justy is Fun! |
well put... sorry to all involved. Matt |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Grant's welded more cages than you have. Neener neener... So managing to weld tubes together does indeed make him an expert on tube structure failure. He should work for FAA doing post crash analysis It's logical.. he wons the Intra-webs.. (gruble grumble gawddam Hoche wading in and throwing logic and reasoning around fawkin buzz-killer..) John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
ChrisKobi Chris Kobayashi Ultra Moderator Location: Seattle, Wash. Join Date: 02/15/2012 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 319 Rally Car: 2000 ford focus zx3 |
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Eric Ewert Eric Ewert Junior Moderator Location: Calgary, Ab Join Date: 05/13/2013 Age: Settling Down Posts: 366 Rally Car: volvo 240 |
Sounds like a blast! Who owns/ is driving it? Look forward to see how they do with it in the upcoming events. |
Gravity Fed Alex Staidle Super Moderator Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp Join Date: 08/21/2009 Age: Settling Down Posts: 1,719 Rally Car: Various Heaps |
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