Not Trolling Keith Morison Professional Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 09/15/2015 Age: Ancient Posts: 340 |
They started 8, 6 cars and 2 UTVs, disappointing I'm sure when events like prescott and gorman are 20ish for entries. First Rally attended (2000), First Rally competed in (2001) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Driver (8), Co-Driver (47), Drivers (19) Clerk (29), Steward (1), Official (17), Volunteer (5) WRC Spectator (1), WRC Photographer (6), WRC Observer (4) Rallies attended (120) Countries attended rallies in (11) Last Updated, May30, 2022 |
Vincent Gagnon The same thing that I just wrote Super Moderator Location: Golden, BC Join Date: 03/12/2016 Age: Settling Down Posts: 157 Rally Car: Volvo 240 |
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Not Trolling Keith Morison Professional Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 09/15/2015 Age: Ancient Posts: 340 |
Rally Solo showed up in NASA events a couple years ago I think.
Haven't paid much attention to it but my impression is that it hasn't caught on. First Rally attended (2000), First Rally competed in (2001) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Driver (8), Co-Driver (47), Drivers (19) Clerk (29), Steward (1), Official (17), Volunteer (5) WRC Spectator (1), WRC Photographer (6), WRC Observer (4) Rallies attended (120) Countries attended rallies in (11) Last Updated, May30, 2022 |
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Not Trolling Keith Morison Professional Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 09/15/2015 Age: Ancient Posts: 340 |
Sanair - 10 cars, one bike, 4 SxS.
Considering this is run on a road course and support roads with lapping... it'll be interesting how they fold in the other vehicles. VLT was 10 cars, 1 bike, 1 quad, 4 SxS Mekinac was 11 cars, 1 bike 2 SxS Portneuf was 5 cars, 1 bike, 3 SxS Neutral in terms of entry numbers... and relatively disappointing I'd think for both a series that used to draw mid-20s regularly AND for Spec suppliers who are not selling to a broad market. (I'd think they would sell as much product by being a 'preferred supplier' for the CRC as they are by being a mandated supplier in the CXE First Rally attended (2000), First Rally competed in (2001) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Driver (8), Co-Driver (47), Drivers (19) Clerk (29), Steward (1), Official (17), Volunteer (5) WRC Spectator (1), WRC Photographer (6), WRC Observer (4) Rallies attended (120) Countries attended rallies in (11) Last Updated, May30, 2022 |
I'm not so sure about that. By taking control over essentially the market for a region, they have dictated that (regardless of whether people are running in CARS or NASA events) that the region runs those products regardless, and at inflated prices to boot. Pretty brilliant market strategy, have basically given themselves a defacto monopoly that also affects other eastern regions (Ontario and the maritimes) on what brands they buy in the off chance they want to compete in those events. |
Not Trolling Keith Morison Professional Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 09/15/2015 Age: Ancient Posts: 340 |
That doesn't surprise me. Disagreeing with me seems to be a sport for you these days.
But they haven't 'taken control' over anything but the market for the CXE. Over 100 teams entered CRC events, and a fair number more entered regional events only in 2017. While some teams buy Panta and Pirelli anyway, it wouldn't take a lot of 'loyalty' buys from across Canada to match the sales of the Spec deal. (This assumes the product is good, and priced fairly) I'd agree with you if we saw every team in the east burning panta and melting pirelli... I don't think we do. From what I'm hearing, their involvement with the CXE isn't really creating 'good will' in the community. First Rally attended (2000), First Rally competed in (2001) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Driver (8), Co-Driver (47), Drivers (19) Clerk (29), Steward (1), Official (17), Volunteer (5) WRC Spectator (1), WRC Photographer (6), WRC Observer (4) Rallies attended (120) Countries attended rallies in (11) Last Updated, May30, 2022 |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Only a single BRAND of NEW tires purchased from a single source Only a single gasoline purchased from a single source.. Come on mang, you only telling half the awesomeness. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
The UNDERSTATEMENT of the WEEK Award goes to Mieth Korrison of Calgary out in fair Alberta. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Not Trolling Keith Morison Professional Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 09/15/2015 Age: Ancient Posts: 340 |
To be fair, MIA Rally Anarchist Don Holland-Oates made that comment before I did. First Rally attended (2000), First Rally competed in (2001) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Driver (8), Co-Driver (47), Drivers (19) Clerk (29), Steward (1), Official (17), Volunteer (5) WRC Spectator (1), WRC Photographer (6), WRC Observer (4) Rallies attended (120) Countries attended rallies in (11) Last Updated, May30, 2022 |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Elite Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
whatever... I've heard stuff that makes me sound like a fawkin choirboy.. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
I forgot about this thread for a couple of days. I had a big long post written up but ended up having to do something and closed the window. The gist of my post was, you don't know everything Keith, and you are certainly the last person I would ever take advice from on anything business related. But keep on keepin' on, I'll be at your event as I've committed to the full CRC season. While I disagree with CXE and Tremblay, people like you are the reason (right or wrong) NASA has made inroads into Canada. |
Not Trolling Keith Morison Professional Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 09/15/2015 Age: Ancient Posts: 340 |
Far be it to presume to give you any advice on business. So far I've been expressing my opinion - in this case that having 100 potential clients is more valuable than having 10 mandated clients. Besides which, in any discussions that are even remotely business related, you've shown not even the remotest ability to grasp anything but the most superficial understanding. (Including not being able to invoice for services or even not being able to deposit payment when received... and this is when you were handling other people's money!) The CSCC and WCRA have events that I have organized... I'll assume you mean those events. I put a lot of effort into making events happen, and always try and consider how they impact the volunteers, competitors, and local stakeholders. I don't think of them as 'my' events by any stretch. I'd love for you to point to some examples to substantiate this suggestion. The only 'inroad' NRS has in Canada is CXE. The only reason CXE is NASA sanctioned is that Tremblay couldn't come to a working agreement with RSQ that would allow him to be CARS Sanctioned. (If you read through the initial GCRs for CXE there was a really funny typo that made it clear they had done a find/replace for CARS and NASA... 10.7. Decals - On all NASA, the organizing committee must ensure that all series sponsor decals are installed according to the positions previously established by the CXE and supplied by the CXE.') First Rally attended (2000), First Rally competed in (2001) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Driver (8), Co-Driver (47), Drivers (19) Clerk (29), Steward (1), Official (17), Volunteer (5) WRC Spectator (1), WRC Photographer (6), WRC Observer (4) Rallies attended (120) Countries attended rallies in (11) Last Updated, May30, 2022 |