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Beginning of the end for Rally America?

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Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 27, 2016 02:05PM
http://www.americanrallyassociation.org/media

And its not even April first.
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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 27, 2016 02:12PM
Hoping for Ford contingency money and no G5 license BS for NEFR!
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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 27, 2016 02:28PM
This is starting to get silly, this kind of constant churn is hugely detrimental to the sport. Why not just kick it back to the SCCA, clearly they want to get back into the game?
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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 27, 2016 02:40PM
With a bit of 'between the lines, but almost within the lines' reading it looks much more like the Foggs are dissipating and the new 'not-for-profit, member driven' association is bringing together the pieces. This is probably a good thing once it is all said and done.
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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 27, 2016 02:50PM
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With a bit of 'between the lines, but almost within the lines' reading it looks much more like the Foggs are dissipating and the new 'not-for-profit, member driven' association is bringing together the pieces. This is probably a good thing once it is all said and done.

The press release = super not helpful.

The FAQs? Super helpful!

http://www.americanrallyassociation.org/faq-1

Additionally, Martin said ARA was consulting with CARS which is promising. One could only dream that a member based association started guiding rally in the USA again.

Interestingly enough, rumor says Ford may be the factory "oem" sponsor... so what happens to Subaru? Do they still keep racing?

And further to that, I really don't want to see Open class go away sad smiley Of course, it would be interesting to see things steered more towards an international style of vehicles being used. Considering a R5 is mandated at $180k euros, some of the top open class cars (for sure Antoine's old evo, the current SRTC car, SRTUSA, FY Racing, Nick Roberts, etc etc) start to close in on that amount, let alone the development work/wasted time and events.

But that's just me spit-balling. I do not want to see cars limited to NLO (which in my mind is just groupN+).
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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 27, 2016 03:21PM
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With a bit of 'between the lines, but almost within the lines' reading it looks much more like the Foggs are dissipating and the new 'not-for-profit, member driven' association is bringing together the pieces. This is probably a good thing once it is all said and done.

The press release = super not helpful.

The FAQs? Super helpful!

http://www.americanrallyassociation.org/faq-1

Additionally, Martin said ARA was consulting with CARS which is promising. One could only dream that a member based association started guiding rally in the USA again.

Interestingly enough, rumor says Ford may be the factory "oem" sponsor... so what happens to Subaru? Do they still keep racing?

And further to that, I really don't want to see Open class go away sad smiley Of course, it would be interesting to see things steered more towards an international style of vehicles being used. Considering a R5 is mandated at $180k euros, some of the top open class cars (for sure Antoine's old evo, the current SRTC car, SRTUSA, FY Racing, Nick Roberts, etc etc) start to close in on that amount, let alone the development work/wasted time and events.

But that's just me spit-balling. I do not want to see cars limited to NLO (which in my mind is just groupN+).

NLO is still open for engines, sequential trans, etc. I'd prefer to be allowed to make bodywork changes in NLO but things like requiring stock hubs, stock subframes and not being allowed to hack away 50% of the car to tube frame the rest of it are good ways to keep the spending in check IMO. SP seems to be more of the warmed over GrpN.
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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 28, 2016 07:57AM
Looks like Rally America and American Rally Association are not on as good terms as ARA would like you to believe.

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Rally America
Williston, VT (July 28, 2016) – Rally America is announcing today that it will be running

the Rally America National Championship in 2017 just as it has since 2005.

Rally America will be working with USAC for insurance and licensing. We appreciate

our partnership and the professionalism that USAC brings to rally and we plan to

continue this strong partnership for some time to come.

Rally America is going to continue to work toward the future with its partner event

organizers, focusing on sport awareness, strong competition in every class and

economic benefit to the host towns in which we race. We plan on putting forth the

required effort towards improved communications and compromise as we close any

gaps together. All rally fans will reap the rewards of our combined successes.

Rally America’s staff has been and will continue to be thoughtful stewards of the sport of

rally and helpful to all those that come to participate. This includes competitors,

organizers, volunteers, sponsors and the media. We will continue to foster and

improve good relations with local, state and federal organizations through improved PR

and sport education.

Rally America has strong, supportive sponsors who believe, as we do, that rally has the

most desirable demographic in automotive motorsports and we thank them for their

continued participation.

Rally America does not have any form of partnership with nor does it have any transition

plan with any other organizations hoping to provide sanction in the sport of Rally.

Rally America is looking forward to its two remaining events in the 2016 Rally America

National Championship: Ojibwe Forests Rally, August 26th, 27th in Detroit Lakes, MN

and Lake Superior Performance Rally, October 14th, 15th in Houghton, MI. We’re

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expecting battles in all classes at both events and large spectator turn out as usual.

Stay tuned for more updates to come.

Rally America has a storied history that must be appreciated, protected and taken

forward with great enthusiasm and excitement. It’s that history and those racers,

organizers and volunteers that have been involved during the past 30 years who will

foster new participants giving the sport its best chance for an even brighter future.
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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 28, 2016 11:13AM
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Looks like Rally America and American Rally Association are not on as good terms as ARA would like you to believe.

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Rally America
Williston, VT (July 28, 2016) – Rally America is announcing today that it will be running

the Rally America National Championship in 2017 just ablah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah history that must be appreciated, protected and taken

forward with great enthusiasm and excitement. It’s that history and those racers,

organizers and volunteers that have been involved during the past 30 years who will

foster new participants giving the sport its best chance for an even brighter future.

The plop sickens.



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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 28, 2016 11:26AM
Somebody get the movie rights, quick! smiling bouncing smiley

I will say, the NASA fanbois are out in force. Rah rah!
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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 28, 2016 01:44PM
Perhaps nothing more than this can sum up this eternal bullshit







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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 28, 2016 01:46PM
Maybe this:






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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 28, 2016 03:00PM




I would rather drive a slow car fast as a fast car slow!
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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 28, 2016 08:40PM
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Perhaps nothing more than this can sum up this eternal bullshit


Bahahahahaha that about sums it up!



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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 30, 2016 05:50AM
So what, we have RA, ARA, NASA, and SCCA (rallysprints) now? How the hell do we have more sanctioning bodies than polticial parties....



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Re: Beginning of the end for Rally America?
July 30, 2016 06:31AM
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So what, we have RA, ARA, NASA, and SCCA (rallysprints) now? How the hell do we have more sanctioning bodies than polticial parties....

And you still missed one.

A year or two ago I counted up how many championships you could run IN THE US and it was 17 or 18 or something silly. That number will need revision I suppose.



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