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Steel Gym is in! (mostly)

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Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 02, 2006 10:41PM
Just have to finish the new X required in the main hoop, and then figgure a way to get it back into its' wintery storage space (and perhaps take some better pictures actually showing something...). Nah...




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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 03, 2006 11:17AM
Paddy, chop out those little useless triangles in the juctions of the doorbars, they accoplish ZERO and make some proper gussests.

And who came up with the front entire half???
Bizarre, indeed. I guess nobody cars if the whole corner crushes in in a simple roll which in a more tradition, less fuckin creative design, would have nice support to the whole length of the A pillar and on to the main hoop.


And just what the fuck is so hard to grasp about copying the rear stay, X, etc junction the way Ford did things.
Are ALL cage builders so fucking stupid, or lazy or what?
Can't any grasp simple principles, or fess up Paddy, did YOU tell them to fucking MISS THE WHOLE FUCKIN POINT???????

Somebody somewhere fails to understand really elementary ideas.
What the fuck.



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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 03, 2006 11:41AM
Arg, so much pirate talk so early in the morning...

john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> And who came up with the front entire half???
> Bizarre, indeed. I guess nobody cars if the whole
> corner crushes in in a simple roll which in a
> more tradition, less fuckin creative design, would
> have nice support to the whole length of the A
> pillar and on to the main hoop.

So I may need to use the hammer and welder a tad? Good heavens! The early drop works with the bent roof bar, supporting it more in the middle rather than relying on the ends to hold it up. If that center bar gets bent in a simple roll, it'll be a much more costly repair than just grafting on a new corner. Should be same effectiveness in a large roll in either case.

> And just what the fuck is so hard to grasp about
> copying the rear stay, X, etc junction the way
> Ford did things.
> Are ALL cage builders so fucking stupid, or lazy
> or what?
> Can't any grasp simple principles, or fess up
> Paddy, did YOU tell them to fucking MISS THE WHOLE
> FUCKIN POINT???????

The rear was a cost comprimise, as you know it is hard to mitre all those pipes to meet at a small junction area. Shock loads are still transferred through the bolt to the small tower body, then what? It either pushes up on the cage through your top-mount idea, or it must pull the area below it where mine goes in. Provided the mini tower gets plated, I don't envision the shock coming through the top mount in either case.

> Somebody somewhere fails to understand really
> elementary ideas.
> What the fuck.

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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 03, 2006 03:34PM
"We're all gonna dieeeeeee!"

Don't panic.....








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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 03, 2006 03:51PM
I want a rectangular side exit exhaust...(at least that's what it looks like...)
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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 03, 2006 08:49PM
I was thinking about side exit exhaust as well. Just hit the regular round pipe with the BFH a few times.
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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 04, 2006 06:53PM
Yep, that's what it is, pre-skwished side exhaust. Gets ride of the pesky "where to route the exhaust around the rear beam" problem. However IIRC it's highly illegal on this continent.




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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 04, 2006 11:55PM
You're shitting me! It's illegal? How's that? I need to reread the rules. I missed that. Why would be a great question to ask. I've been drinking, Correction still drinking.
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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 05, 2006 01:21AM
Maybe not in the SCCA/FIA rules, but I'm pretty sure its illegal as in not street legal.



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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 10, 2006 03:26PM
Hahah I love reading John's post here, and then compare to the endless gushing praise on SS.com construction forum re the same design. smiling smiley





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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 10, 2006 07:26PM
Skye Wrote:
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> Hahah I love reading John's post here, and then
> compare to the endless gushing praise on SS.com
> construction forum re the same design.
>
>
>
> ______
> Skye Poier
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> b.1974
Muchachito mio,
the (wipes the gushed goo off) praise is cause it "looks cool" and look sumpin like what they have seen in the factory Sub-a-rats, (damn, has to wipe more gushed goo off the keyboard!), and I guess the whole fuckin corner with no cage nearby is like uber-cool.
Of corse Pro-drive re-shells often enough even if they don"t roll on that corner, bit more a problem if you"re Team P0-drive


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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 11, 2006 12:28AM
If memory serves me correctly... didn't the first couple of years of the Dodge Viper have a side exhaust for the North American model ?

It was the European model that originally had rear exhaust because side exhaust was illegal on the other side of the pond.

BTW... Skye, Great Forum !

It's nice to be able to say "Fuck Yeah" without seeing "**** Yeah"

Cheers,

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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 11, 2006 07:14AM
Ah well, I'm sure it'll hold up just fine and I like the way it smells. Cage will probably be obsolete by my 1st event in 2007 anyways, by which point in time required members will likely include provisions for enclosing the fuel cell, fuel lines, co-driver...
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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 11, 2006 11:24AM
Paddy,

Christian is not gonna like your sarcasm and give you a warning.

Oh wait he can't do it here.

However you are forgetting something important. By the time you runa the first rally in your car, more than likely they will ban metal rollcages that may corrode and tell us that we have to use Stupidium Tubing that will not only go around the fuelcell, codriver, the toilet seat at home and the intercom, they way well try to make it all together illegal to participate in a rally with a car.

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Re: Steel Gym is in! (mostly)
January 11, 2006 01:17PM
I'm shocked that they do not REQUIRE that we carry TWO rolls of toilet paper for when we REALLY have to go.

Next we will have to have airbags......Multiple airbags so that when you hit one inflates and with each following impact you are cushioned by another silk pillow IN THE NAME OF SAFETY!! After all..... we are DOING IT FOR THE CHILDREN.

Give me a break.

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