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The Political Analysts here need to read this, especially the senile ones--Jens Larsen chief among them.

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Recently Jens Larsen, the troglodyte bain of forums since the earliest days of the Internet, was trolling another thread and made some brilliant comment about "The Communist...." evidently referring to President Obama..

I have heard a few other mental midgets here say similar things---especially about any women politicos---the hate and contempt drips ..

But I just got a little blub about the latest Cabinet Appointment by Obama...
Seems a bit odd that a Communist would keep appointing people who exemplify the Financial Elite and so many CEOs of the hugest corporations...

Why would any Communist do this---or even any Socialist---which is a far different thing in the entire rest of the semi-literate world.
Read, and explain to me how this guy is a Commie:
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Billionaire Bankster
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By Greg Palast
Thursday, 2. May 2013

You made fun of me when I suggested that President Barack Obama would nominate a confessed bank scammer, a loan-sharking mortgage predator, to his cabinet. But thar she blows!

Today, Obama has named Penny Pritzker Secretary of Commerce. As the President says, It’s a milestone: the first female fraudster to hold that post. No longer will criminal bankers have to lobby the administration - because now they'll have one of their own in the Cabinet.
The following is taken from the Chapter, “Penny’s from Heaven?” you’ll find in my bestseller, Billionaires & Ballot Bandits. [Get a copy, I’ll sign it, and you send it to the President.]

We never heard of this guy Barack Obama until 2004. Less than three years before taking the presidency, he was in the Illinois state senate, a swamp of scammers, backhanders, and party machine tools - not a stellar launch pad for the White House. And then, one day, state Sen. Barack Obama was visited by his fairy godmother. Her name is Penny Pritzker.

Pritzker's net worth is listed in Forbes as $1.8 billion, which is one hell of a heavy magic wand in the world of politics. Her wand would have been heavier, and her net worth higher, except that in 2001, the federal government fined her and her family $460 million for the predatory, deceitful, racist tactics and practices of Superior, the bank-and-loan-shark operation she ran on the South Side of Chicago.

Superior was the first of the deregulated go-go banks to go bust - at the time, the costliest failure ever. US taxpayers lost nearly half a billion dollars. Superior's depositors lost millions and poor folk in Sen. Obama's South Side district lost their homes.

Penny did not like paying $460 million. No, not one bit. What she needed was someone to give her Hope and Change. She hoped someone would change the banking regulators and the Commerce Department so she could get away with this crap.

Pritzker introduced Obama, the neophyte state senator, to the Ladies Who Lunch (that's really what they call themselves) on Chicago's Gold Coast. Obama got lunch, gold and better - an introduction to Robert Rubin. Rubin is a former Secretary of the Treasury, former chairman of Goldman Sachs and former co-chairman of Citibank. Even atheists recognized Rubin as the Supreme Deity of Wall Street.

Rubin opened the doors to finance industry vaults for Obama. Extraordinarily for a Democrat, Obama in 2008 raised three times as much from bankers as his Republican opponent.
This article is based on the chapter Penny's from Heaven? From Palast's New York Times Bestseller Billionaires & Ballot Bandits with comics by Ted Rall.
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So what did Citibank's Rubin get for showering Obama with gold? Obama agreed to take care of Rubin's poodles, Larry Summers and Tim Geithner. They became Obama's first cabinet picks: Summers as Economics Czar and Geithner as his czarina, Secretary of the Treasury.

Geithner and Summers were the gents who, under Treasury Secretary Rubin, designed the deregulation of banking. In effect, they had decriminalized the kind of financial flim-flammery that brought the planet to its knees while bringing Rubin, Pritzker and the banksters loads of lucre.

So, in 2008, Summers and Geithner were put back in the saddle - Obama's horse but Rubin's saddle.

Rubin received more than $100 million from Citigroup, the gargantuan commercial bank/investment bank/casino created by deregulation. It is worth a mention that Rubin's centi-million-dollar payoff went unchallenged by Citi's new owner, the US Treasury, which had put up more than a trillion dollars in loans and guarantees to pull Rubin's creature out of bankruptcy.

Rubin rocked, but Penny was pissed off. Pritzker had taken this state senator/community organizer from the ghetto, made him a US Senator, then, as Obama's campaign finance chairwoman, raised a mind-blowing three-quarters of a billion dollars to make him president.

In return, in 2008, Obama decided to make his patron Penny the Secretary of Commerce. But then, in November 2008, just as Obama was about to submit her nomination to Congress, a bunch of Pritzker's victims marched on Washington. They were not from her busted bank, but unhappy workers from the lucrative nursing homes that her family owns through a string of complex offshore trusts. Obama slammed the door on Penny pronto.

The Pritzker family made its billions mostly from Hyatt Hotels and Hyatt nursing homes. Penny, on the Hyatt board of directors, is an infamously combative anti-union apostle. UNITE HERE, the union that represents Hyatt workers, has called for an international boycott of Hyatt hotels. In 2012, UNITE HERE and its parent, the AFL-CIO, were crucial to Obama's winning Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin. So, in this last campaign, Obama had to keep his billionairess heiress on the down-low.

Obama appeared to keep the door shut on Pritzker throughout the 2012 campaign, reducing her to hosting an election fundraiser at her Gold Coast digs, which she had to bill as a Goldman Sachs PAC event. This marks possibly the first time and last time anyone used Goldman Sachs as a PR cover.

But today, with the unions' money and votes already pocketed and counted, Obama can give working folks The Finger and give Penny her pound of flesh: the Commerce post.

The New York Times says that, "At Commerce, Ms. Pritzker could provide the president with a new way to reach out to the business community." The last time Pritzker reached out to the business community was to sell them sub-prime mortgage securities, worthless bags of financial feces manufactured by Superior Bank.

By giving Penny, the Piggy Banker, Commerce, we have to change Obama's rating to sub-prime.

I do note that some woman’s organizations are applauding the appointment of the first female to the Commerce post. But I prefer to honor the victims of the Chicago femme fatale. Most of Penny’s victims, busted bank borrowers and underpaid health care workers, are women, too. But, unlike those wounded and destroyed by Pritzker, she worked hard for her money: it was not easy inheriting her first billion from her daddy.

Or could it simply be that these people calling Big Business and Big Finance Obama a commie are simply raving , probably drunken imbeciles?

I report, you decide.



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Yep, we live in an oligarchy/plutocracy. He/she or it (corporations are people, right?) with the most cash peddles the most influence.





Obama isn't a socialist, or a communist. He's G.W. Bush Lite.

But hey, I'm one of those whack jobs who is socially pretty left of center, except when it comes to firearms (demonstrate REAL COMPETENCY in the safe handling, storage, and use of firearms...oh, and show that you're not a nut job who wants to kill elementary school students) and you can play with your black rifles or pistols all you want. No, I don't have it exactly figured out, but I DO know the knee-jerk 7-10 round magazine limits are pretty pointless in a land with probably 50 million 30+ round mags out there.

Also, Biden is an ass with his "get a double-barrel shotgun" for home defense garbage. You don't want something that kicks like a mule and needs to be reloaded after two rounds. Then again, if you're getting a firearm for home or self defense, you need to practice the hell out of using it so if you DO need to use it in a shit hits the fan situation, you can use it competently.



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Whatever, Dude.
May 03, 2013 07:00AM
Nevermind.....

I should know better than to respond to JVL's trolling.



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Re: Whatever, Dude.
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Nevermind.....

I should know better than to respond to JVL's trolling.

Jens here's a whole thread for you to rant and rave in and explain your crystaline logic how Obama is a Communist...

I will only ask easy questions..

Come on, you invade a nice respectful thread with your shit and you won't even display your evidently razor sharp wit and wisdom on the subject of this Chicago friend to Big Business is a Communist...

No trolling at all Jens...



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Obama is the greatest president ever elected. The Dems nominated him and the Republicans elected him. Pretty awesome...
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Re: Whatever, Dude.
May 03, 2013 10:51AM
I'm gonna agree with Jens's edited assessment that Obama is just a cog in the corrupt Chicago "Democratic" party machine.

Repugnantgoons and Dimmocrats. They both suck. The Crats offer some peace and love and free everything, but they're just as much corporate stooges at the Pubs.

OK, kiddo needs attention, I'll shut up.



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Obama is the greatest president ever elected. The Dems nominated him and the Republicans elected him. Pretty awesome...

I cannot argue with anything in this statement.

Particularly the "Pretty awesome..." part of it.

Completely in the classis sense, of course.



Parfois, on fait pas semblant!

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So no explanation from Larsen why Obama is a Communist.

quelle surprise.



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Jens did have a post saying that Obama wasn't REALLY a Communist, just a part of the corrupt Chicago political machine. But then it got edited out, guess he needed to refill his nitroglycerin prescription before getting into a flame war.

The only people that either US major political party care about are the Corporations (Monsanto, Walmart, Halliburton, they're all people, right?). Follow the money.

Time to put the kids to bed, more ranting later.



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I am getting really tired of people not understanding corporate person-hood. Until a robot becomes self aware and founds a company all companies really are people, people with rights that they do not give up when they associate in a company...

From Wikipedia:

The basis for allowing corporations to assert protection under the U.S. Constitution is that they are organizations of people, and the people should not be deprived of their constitutional rights when they act collectively.[5] In this view, treating corporations as "persons" is a convenient legal fiction which allows corporations to sue and to be sued, provides a single entity for easier taxation and regulation, simplifies complex transactions which would otherwise involve, in the case of large corporations, thousands of people, and protects the individual rights of the shareholders as well as the right of association.

In my former job we dealt with Penny, she was fair and straight forward to deal with. She never went back on what she agreed to etc. It was a minor transaction so take that as one small point of reference.



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Life would be pretty bleak without corporations. Food, clothes, transportation, housing,entertainment, security, even this website relies on and is a result of corporate activity. of course life would be bleak for a much shorter time without the medical benefits we've received from corporations also. Corporations aren't evil, people are. Corporations can magnify evil, but they can't originate it.

Breaking store windows and throwing garbage never changed a thing . Stonewalling a president, governor or legislature because of party affiliation never did any good either. We have two political parties that put their existence and ideology over the importance of the country and they are supported by many people who can't seem to see beyond the election sign planted in the front yard. Ridiculous.
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Obama is called a communist incorrectly, but he exemplifies the broken attitude of that system (which has practically failed worldwide. Go ahead, I know you want to hold China up as a "shining" example of communism succeeding.)
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Obama is called a communist incorrectly, but he exemplifies the broken attitude of that system (which has practically failed worldwide. Go ahead, I know you want to hold China up as a "shining" example of communism succeeding.)

Adam how badly did you flunk all of your Politic Science and History courses you ever took?
Do you have even an tiny inkling of how uninformed you sound?

If anything has practically failed it seems like it's the educational system you wandered thru.thumbs down

Not going to waste time arguing with an inexperienced child who is so appallingly ignorant of the rest of the world, and his own relationship to the world that it is shocking....

I have really begun recently to wonder just what it is you do that allows you to do the stuff you're doing and yet be so fundamentally unaware of so much.eye popping smiley



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Commies are rarely, if ever, motivated by a need to be loved by the elite.

Obama is often, if not always, motivated by a need to be loved by the elite.

Therefore, the odds of Obama being a closet communist are very low.
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