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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 11, 2014 02:01PM
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and the GM one that came with the car is in pieces
so about that T5 that's in pieces.......
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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 14, 2014 08:12PM
That is a nice looking flywheel, it would look very nice behind my engine. What kind of pressure plate is it? And what do you recommend for a clutch disc?

I pulled the LT1 out of the car today, as well as the crossmember. I need to modify 2 of the mounting holes in the new crossmember I got so it will bolt up, then I can fit in the volvo block and ford T5. I hope to have the motor in position and at least have the mounts planned out by the end of the weekend.



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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 16, 2014 04:58PM
i would like to have that engine for a tahoe.

is the fuel cell in this car legal by current rules?



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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 16, 2014 06:47PM
I believe the fuel cell to be legal. I think Charles pursued the install with RA but a call to Hurst would confirm 100%.
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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 16, 2014 08:28PM
It is an FIA fuel cell and the filler is encased in metal, so it is legal.

I currently have the LT1 for sale. I put it up for $300, since it doesn't have a wiring harness, there are a few melted plastic bits (ps reservoir and dipstick handle) so I'm guessing the motor came out of a burned car, and I have no idea what shape it's in internally. I don't really know the market for these engines, I may be asking too much.

A bit of progress today; I got the new crossmember modified and fitted into the car and got a block/transmission sitting in there. Going to use the same transmission mount that Pat is using in his volvo, I just need to add 2 weld nuts to the framerails. The 240 rubber engine mounts (I'm actually using stiffer poly versions) bolt to the rx7 crossmember and line up perfectly, so I just need to go measure the side-to-side angle and tilt angle on a stock 240 so I can build the rest of the mounts correctly.

Here are some pics of the old crossmember, and how I modified the new one to bolt up.



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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 18, 2014 09:25PM
Motor mounts are almost done, just need to reinforce them a bit. I think I'm going to add a plate between the side plates, and maybe a small brace on the backside of the block-side mounting plate. I've figured out how I'm going to add the additional transmission mounting holes to the body, I'll get that finished up tomorrow.
the engine bay now looks huge with the 4-banger back in it.
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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 21, 2014 07:14PM
I finished up the transmission mounting points, so now the drive train is in place. Once I got it in there, it seemed there was very little space for the driveshaft. I went and got a slip yoke, slid it in, and couldn't even spin it all the way around. Since the transmission sits so much further back, the yoke is in a slim part of the tunnel (only a couple inches in front of where the carrier bearing used to be), so out came the cutoff wheel. Many hours later, the tunnel is now sealed up and should be big enough to fit a driveshaft.
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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 21, 2014 10:01PM
Very impressed! Also I want one of those gearbox cross members.

Btw the indicator stalks look rather japanese... Is it all rx7 stuff?
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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 21, 2014 11:03PM
Yer a savage!

Hope she goes real good for the effort being put into it.



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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 21, 2014 11:55PM
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Very impressed! Also I want one of those gearbox cross members.

Btw the indicator stalks look rather Japanese... Is it all rx7 stuff?

Be less likely to get a bolt head cleaned off if the bolts weren't on the bottom exposed to all those nasty things that so love to smash bolt heads, be just so much nicer on the side of the stamping.

But hey why worry? what could possibly happen?



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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 22, 2014 09:55AM
Yup, be terribly easy now to move those bolts 90* to a horizontal and very protected area. With stuff being all clean and shiney.
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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 22, 2014 11:28AM
The column is out of a subaru.

I will be doing hdpe underbody protection that will cover the bolts from gravel spray, and if I hit anything hard enough to shear an M10 bolt head, I think I'll have bigger issues to worry about. Lots of rationalization for me not wanting to spend any more time on the transmission mount when there's a shitload more to get done. I still want to get the pedal box mounted, and I have to pull the engine/transmission and return them to their rightful owner, which will give me room to finish up the tunnel work underneath, and then try to get some primer on the bare metal surfaces before the car gets pushed back outside next week. Not having my own dedicated workspace has its challenges.

Once this round of work gets done, the next area I want to focus on is the rear axle. Right now, the rear shocks are mounted too close to the wheels; the driver's side spring is contacting the tire and the passenger side has a little more breathing room, but still not enough to allow for articulation. My plan is to move the lower mounts inboard on the axle until the shocks are vertical (they are currently like this: / \ ) and add longer wheel studs and space the wheels out 20mm or so.
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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 22, 2014 11:49AM
I was going to say the exact same thing in regards to those bolts. If you hit them at all chances are you're looking at all the front suspension bits scattered around the car.
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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 22, 2014 12:06PM
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The column is out of a subaru.

I will be doing hdpe underbody protection that will cover the bolts from gravel spray, and if I hit anything hard enough to shear an M10 bolt head, I think I'll have bigger issues to worry about. Lots of rationalization for me not wanting to spend any more time on the transmission mount when there's a shitload more to get done. I still want to get the pedal box mounted, and I have to pull the engine/transmission and return them to their rightful owner, which will give me room to finish up the tunnel work underneath, and then try to get some primer on the bare metal surfaces before the car gets pushed back outside next week. Not having my own dedicated workspace has its challenges.

Once this round of work gets done, the next area I want to focus on is the rear axle. Right now, the rear shocks are mounted too close to the wheels; the driver's side spring is contacting the tire and the passenger side has a little more breathing room, but still not enough to allow for articulation. My plan is to move the lower mounts inboard on the axle until the shocks are vertical (they are currently like this: / \ ) and add longer wheel studs and space the wheels out 20mm or so.


Plastic armour is nice, but too often its taken to extremes. Like covering all kinds of things making service a big pain in the ass... You could very easily zap on a small piece of steel about the height of the bolt head right in front---socket clearance in front---that way the nasty ass rock whacks the "sacrificial" bar instead, and is somewhat deflected. I used to do that on the aluminum sump guard: a 3/8 x 1.5" bar under and wear that out cause its cheap, rather than thin out that big expensive piece of aluminum.

That plastic shit is expensive and I think with a little advance thinking (oh noez! not THAT!!!) a smrat person could spend an awful lot less and selectively armor things with smaller pieces.. 2 screws on the leading edge makes things into flaps which can be bent down to get a wrench/socket on stuff quicker with spending 1/2 hour dismounting acres of plastic..

But, as always, wot dafuq do I know.



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Re: rally car project rescue: volvo 242
November 22, 2014 01:51PM
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I was going to say the exact same thing in regards to those bolts. If you hit them at all chances are you're looking at all the front suspension bits scattered around the car.
Nope, That part of the frame can take a shit kicking without damaging any other part of the car. John's right about this... it does need some sort of protection.



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