wvonkessler Wilson von Kessler Elite Moderator Location: Lookout Mountain, GA Join Date: 02/28/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,127 Rally Car: Colts are in Finland; now '87 325i, '89 325i |
Thank you John. The next questions I have are:
(1) what would be the most painless way to convert the front to struts long enough to be effective? Assume I know nothing about strut suspension geometry. Should I spec an available conversion kit but without the short travel struts that will be inevitably specced with it? If it is a short travel spec, how do I reengineer to long travel? If no kit, what knuckles and other fabrication? I assume the escort type struts could be used. (2) there are readily available 4 link kits, but with significantly shorter upper links. If I go with the traditional parallel long links used for rally, where do I source the front chassis bracket, how do I determine the length of the links and whether I put them inside or outside the frame rails, how do I build the links and with what hardware and wherefrom and same regarding mounting them and the shocks to the axle? I have other questions, but these are the initial ones. "Talk about drugs. Driving a car like that, going that fast, it’s like all the drugs at once." - Tommy Byrne "Now, Pinky, if by any chance you are captured during this mission, remember you are Gunther Heindriksen from Appenzell. You moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Murren. Can you repeat that?" - The Brain |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Mega Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
If all y'alls is still up I just Peee 'em-ed ya so gimme a call. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Pete Pete Remner Super Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Mega Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Naw, later Moose-angst went to strut mounting that are like Dubya Arsey cars and they have options with good brakes cheeper... So some Moose-angst later spindle./hubs/brakes Some quicker version of some Moose-angst rack if its quick enough Some yumme struts with 8.8" travel. Some kinda links to attach knuckle to crossmember and a tension rod or compression strut.. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Pete Pete Remner Super Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
The Mustang stuff is shit. The geometry is utter, absolute garbage. It is as if the Ford people in charge of the Fox body had a meeting and asked, how high can we make the ball joint? And the engineers worked and worked and worked their asses off until they came up with a ball joint so high, and the steering geometry so flawed, that the suspension didn't do anything right until you made it so stiff that it didn't move anymore. Which isn't "doing things right" but rather "kept from doing things wrong".
70% of the Fox body suspension aftermarket that isn't low and slow is unfucking the front end. The rest is in unfucking the rear end. If all you want out of a Fox front end is the right bolt pattern, hell then just bung a FC RX-7 front end under it. Much better/stronger than the Fox junk for just a little more work. Pete Remner Cleveland, Ohio 1984 RX-7 (rallycross thing) 1978 Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/20/2015 08:49PM by Pete. |
Aaron Luptak Aaron Luptak Mega Moderator Location: SLC Join Date: 02/15/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 776 Rally Car: Civic... |
I've only done a little reading on it, but my impression was that the gen after the Fox (SN95?) solved a lot of those issues, with nearly the same mounting points - and is old enough at this point that it's not really any more expensive than the fox body stuff. But I could be wrong? KF7RWG http://www.utahrallygroup.com |
SteveL Steve Leitch Mega Moderator Location: Ocean Shores, Washington Join Date: 01/25/2009 Posts: 280 Rally Car: Can't decide which to use... |
Not wrong, the front suspension can be tweeked to preform well with little cost. The rear is a fucking nightmare. They didn't call it the quadrabind for shits and giggles... SteveL This is the point in the killing spree when you really should turn the gun on yourself |
SavageBeard Robert Edwards Super Moderator Location: Livermore,Ca Join Date: 12/08/2014 Age: Settling Down Posts: 1 Rally Car: 67 mustang...in progress |
Hey guys, i have a 67 iv been toying with making into a rally car, duncan from the 2009 i think it was, east africa rally used toyota truck control arms for the front and mounted long travel shocks to the lower, i think he had 2 on each side, the rear he had a baja style trailing arm i think its called with the toyota rerend but even he said that car was hard to win with, too heavy, thats why he used a capri next time.
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