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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 24, 2015 10:33PM
Careful! Not 100% sure if all the pulleys and accessory drive stuff is all 'xactly the same from B21/B23 to the B230 things..the snout of the crank and the crank "vibration enhancer" thing aka front crank pully is different---but not 100% of all the pulleys are all in same place.

Careful.



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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 25, 2015 12:52AM
That kit doesn't work for the b230.

For the b230 I pull out the compressor, use a rouighly inch thick stack of washers ( I suppose one could get fancy and mackine a spacer) and a longer bolt, to move the power steering compressor forward and get a longer belt.
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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 25, 2015 01:41PM
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That kit doesn't work for the b230.

For the b230 I pull out the compressor, use a rouighly inch thick stack of washers ( I suppose one could get fancy and mackine a spacer) and a longer bolt, to move the power steering compressor forward and get a longer belt.

The fancy spacer kit should work on any car that has the older "ham can" saginaw pump. The newer saginaw type-2 pumps need the stack-o-washers, or you can run one loooong belt around the crank, power steering pump, water pump, and the alternator.
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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 25, 2015 06:31PM
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That kit doesn't work for the b230.

For the b230 I pull out the compressor, use a rouighly inch thick stack of washers ( I suppose one could get fancy and mackine a spacer) and a longer bolt, to move the power steering compressor forward and get a longer belt.

The fancy spacer kit should work on any car that has the older "ham can" saginaw pump. The newer saginaw type-2 pumps need the stack-o-washers, or you can run one loooong belt around the crank, power steering pump, water pump, and the alternator.

Hate to be all contrary but I would not recommend running all those accessories on one belt. There would not be enough pulley contact in my opinion. I will most likely work but there is a reason that car manufacturers rarely run more than two accessories on one belt (unless it is a serpentine belt) and volvo decided they needed two belts for the alternator and water pump.
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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 25, 2015 10:59PM
Fully agree that the looooong belt is not the best idea. I have it currently on my car, it's not ideal and it's a pain to get the tension in both belts right.
It hasn't slipped or had issues since I replaced the worn rubber accessory bushings.
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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 26, 2015 08:59PM
Was busy with other things today but I dide figure out that the alternator was not charging... Have to swap with one from the parts bin... Seems to have a fluctuating idle which may be the idle air control valve, I've added it to the list.
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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 26, 2015 10:58PM
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Was busy with other things today but I dide figure out that the alternator was not charging... Have to swap with one from the parts bin... Seems to have a fluctuating idle which may be the idle air control valve, I've added it to the list.

Try swapping the brush pack/voltage regulator foist



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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 27, 2015 03:42PM
Think I found the issue with the alternator! Picture 2 and 3 is why high school kids suck.
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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 27, 2015 04:42PM
Track 'em down via the soles of the tennie-runners and chop the offending foot off







Just below the eyebrows...

da fuq is it with kids?



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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
May 27, 2015 09:25PM
Oh, I'll find him and then... Can't really do anything but he deserves a good beating. The good kids got a ton done. Here is the list and everything that is crossed out is done. Drove under its own power!
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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
September 22, 2015 09:03PM
Back from summer break and finally getting some shop time with the advanced class. We repaired the messed up portion of the engine harness and the car starts and runs reliably. Still have not figured out why it is not charging the battery. In the process of swapping in our third used alternator. I'll keep the updates coming but just want you all to know that we are not fading silently into the night. Now that school is back, we have a rally car to build!



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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
September 22, 2015 10:28PM
Did you come check out the Mendocino Rally?



Self-righteous douche canoe
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Re: Ukiah High School Rally Car
September 23, 2015 08:23AM
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Did you come check out the Mendocino Rally?

No I was road tripping with the family. The wife is a teacher too so we usually bug out during the summer. I literally rolled into Ukiah and saw the after party at the Wingstop! I plan to be here for it this year. Either helping out or racing (depends on how much work/testing gets done)!
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