DexterVW David Baker Super Moderator Location: Rhode my Island Join Date: 11/20/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 290 Rally Car: 95 GTI TDI |
So I suffer on my Mk3 Golf with VR6 suspension and Hotbits struts of not having enough plung on my axles causing the circlips to break and the inncer cv's to only last about 200 miles before they are death clicking...
has anyone used a cv like this before... It should bolt in http://www.rcvperformance.com/product-details.aspx?sku=301174CC |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Ultra Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
You thinking of using that inboard? I think that bolt circle is toooooo big, and no idea of if the spline is correct. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
ALS FTW Don K. Oates Mod Moderator Location: Strathmore, AB Join Date: 01/19/2015 Age: Settling Down Posts: 137 Rally Car: looking |
There is every chance that photo is 'generic' and not type specific.
Also, why not sell off the 'draggers' and get yourself into something with real potential for top finishes? Many RWD cars don't leave you dealing with CV joints. I'm prety sure Ford stRangers have live axles in the back, meaning no CVs an only driveshaft plunging. (oooo.... that sounds dirty) |
Aaron Luptak Aaron Luptak Mod Moderator Location: SLC Join Date: 02/15/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 776 Rally Car: Civic... |
I believe that Eric Burmeister worked with RCV for axles on his Mazdaspeed3, or maybe the Protege?
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hoche Michel Hoche-Mong Mega Moderator Location: Campbell, CA Join Date: 02/28/2006 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,156 Rally Car: Golf, Golf, RX-3 |
First, why are you breaking CVs? What is it about your setup that's causing them to overplunge? Is the car lifted too much? Is it lowered too much? Do you have custom A-arms?
The OEM GKN/Lobro ones should be just fine until you get over 200hp or so. Self-righteous douche canoe |
DexterVW David Baker Super Moderator Location: Rhode my Island Join Date: 11/20/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 290 Rally Car: 95 GTI TDI |
No i'm not ditching the VW in favor of a furd flamer or so other "top finishing" car... I build this one cause I liked this one... I'll learn to drive with this one then start shooting for the top when I have the $$ to hit the trees as hard as they will let me go.
I think its a little too much wheel travel with the hotbits coupled with the torque of the TDI (240ft-lbs rough estimate). I've debated limiting straps, putting the front sway bar back in (as it seems to be tarmac cornering that kills em) and I've put in steering limiters so that should solve that. The stock cv can only handle about 17 degrees articulation and .7" plunge while these are rated for 25 degrees and 1.25". You can also get upgraded cages and center pieces to boot. The only thing I don't know right now is if the splines are correct, they are both 28 spine but thats all I know. Dave |
DexterVW David Baker Super Moderator Location: Rhode my Island Join Date: 11/20/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 290 Rally Car: 95 GTI TDI |
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johnhuebbe John Huebbe Senior Moderator Location: St. Peters, MO Join Date: 08/31/2012 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 283 Rally Car: 1970 VW Beetle & 1991 Subaru Legacy |
I use Porsche 944 100mm CVs for my bug. Never had one break in all of my rallies. Although it is RWD, so the wheels aren't turning and providing power like FWD.
Odd you are breaking inner CVs. Seems like a geometry issue. If you go to Porsche 930 108mm CVs then I suspect you should never be breaking them. |
Josh Wimpey Josh Wimpey Super Moderator Location: VA Join Date: 12/27/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 649 Rally Car: Sneak the Golf |
David, I think these have been used before but you may want to check with some folks at Oneil's or Chris D. I am still pretty sure that inner CVs break from too much plunge cause by the motor moving around too much. I doubt the Hotbits have too much travel... Shouldn't have problems with 200mm or even a tad more. ____________________________________________________________- One. Class -- 2WD www.quantumrallysport.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Quantum-Rally-Sport/281129179600?ref=nf |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Ultra Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Doubt very seriously the Hot Bitch has too much travel.Stock is 155-160mm, and I have only seen that much on the various dead Hot Bitch stuff that I've held or been sent piccies of on a wide variety of cars.. How you going to connect a big 930 CV to the little VW CV? Different bolt circles. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
turoc Ozgur Simsek Professional Moderator Location: Brooklyn, NY Join Date: 06/07/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 561 Rally Car: working on a Veedub |
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DexterVW David Baker Super Moderator Location: Rhode my Island Join Date: 11/20/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 290 Rally Car: 95 GTI TDI |
Same OD and bolt circle as the mk4 1.8t output flanges that install nicely into my O2? transmission. The stock mk3 axles already have a 28 tooth spline which I hope matches the 28 spline on the 930. Tonight I'm going to try putting in some seriously stiff mounts instead of my somewhat stiff mounts. I'm also going to measure the flange position in full droop and compression and see where I'm landing. Put some numbers to this issue. Dave |
danster Haggis Muncher Senior Moderator Location: Haggisland UK Join Date: 01/04/2013 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 409 Rally Car: VWs (for my sins) |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Ultra Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
OK, good but there are many more 930 joints in the offroad world. And yeah numbers are usually good. Like: what IS the travel of the front struts.. Measure and post it to eliminate that from worry John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Towona Tony P Ultra Moderator Location: Alberta, Canada Join Date: 08/21/2010 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 149 Rally Car: MK2 Golf |
I have both Hotbits and JVABs for my Mk2. I have broken 2 driver side axles (including one brand new 0km axle) that I directly attributed to over extension of the inner cv joint while the Hotbits were installed. These breakages occurred immediately after the car hand been elevated on a hoist/jackstands, the hotbits to force the LCAs too far down and pull on the axles, then when the car was put down on the ground/floor and you started to drive off, you could feel the axle bind up and something snapped inside the inner CV.
All suspension parts/geometry are OEM (other than the coilovers and the upper mounts). I don't have that issue with the JVABs. Sitting side by side on the floor, the HB unit is about 1.5" longer overall than the JVAB unit (measuring from the upper camber bolt hole to the top mount) Runamuck Rally Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/02/2015 02:04PM by Towona. |