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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
July 30, 2015 05:42PM
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Your point?

Just lamenting a good project being abandoned.

No need to be paranoid.
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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
July 30, 2015 06:03PM
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Your point?

Just lamenting a good project being abandoned.

No need to be paranoid.

It never started, no deposit no project and a lot of wasted time...

And as I said, I never know what your point is..No nuance, no tone to help "get" your tone

...I had invited you to call to talk, get to hear and know each other a bit... You didn't and I withdrew the offer after reading your stuff because it seems you are mainly playing some game...
Its not paranoia, its just is what it is..



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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
July 31, 2015 12:29PM
Is the 96 abandoned too?
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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
July 31, 2015 01:00PM
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Is the 96 abandoned too?

Never.



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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
July 31, 2015 07:40PM
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It never started, no deposit no project and a lot of wasted time...
I stand corrected... I guess I shouldn't have taken this guy's word for it:
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And no deposit, not nothing on the maroon Xratty?
Abandoned.
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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
July 31, 2015 10:00PM
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It never started, no deposit no project and a lot of wasted time...
I stand corrected... I guess I shouldn't have taken this guy's word for it:
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And no deposit, not nothing on the maroon Xratty?
Abandoned.

Maroon ones never get built. John told me that 16-years-ago...and my maroon one got 3/4 caged and traded for a case of Guinness.



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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
August 03, 2015 11:40AM
This made it about as far as I thought it would. Haha. Did anyone actually think this was going to make it on stage? I mean he posted that he wanted to buy the Purple Panda AFTER he started this thread. Just out of curiosity John, what did you quote him for a stage ready xratty?
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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
August 04, 2015 01:30PM
Ya....no age in his profile but I'm pretty sure party animal and you know how that goes.......

Damn whippersnappers!


But truth be told, I had a moment of want over need above when I posted asking if the suspenders the kid owes John for were for his focus....


I would love a set of JVAB 50's for the focus, but an engine that actually has compression should probably be higher on my priority list.....especially since it's only going to be a grassocross car for a while.


In other news, John did you get banninated over on special stage again?

You naughty boy.
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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
August 04, 2015 03:49PM
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Ya....no age in his profile but I'm pretty sure party animal and you know how that goes.......

Damn whippersnappers!


But truth be told, I had a moment of want over need above when I posted asking if the suspenders the kid owes John for were for his focus....


I would love a set of JVAB 50's for the focus, but an engine that actually has compression should probably be higher on my priority list.....especially since it's only going to be a grassocross car for a while.


In other news, John did you get banninated over on special stage again?

You naughty boy.

Yeah, there was this high school kid from up in Naine asking how to finance playing grass-o-cross so fuck it here's the entirety of it:

17 year old kid in Maine wrote:

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Hi. I'm 17 and I've always wanted to go rallying. The problem is im a 17 year old highschool student with little money. Does anyone know of a good way to raise money to buy a car to Rallycross in? Im just trying to get something that I can take out on weekends and have fun in, and eventually when im older and have a solid job prep it for stage rally. Thoughts?
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I wrote:
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First go back and choose your parents better. Make sure they a real Merikuns who show they really love you buy buying your love...

If for some reason you can't go back, that means you have to work..
I know! I know! Its terrible!
But short of putting ads up in Backpages.com "adult" section
http://maine.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/Disclaimer?section=4381
it looks like you're just going to have to work.

Now if there are these so called rallycrosses ANYTHING will do..Simple as that. Handling, suspension, power are all unimportant because of the low speeds and tight nature of the courses....
So the way to get into it and be able to do it when your broke-ass for the next few years is to get a car that is:
a) cheap and
b) SIMPLE enough that you can do all the eventual work yourself and
c) fairly certain it will tolerate some thrashing
d) fun enough stock-ish that the fun part balances out that you have to work on it.

And you complicate the matter by saying "beat on it and then LATER prep it for rally".
That lat bit changes the equation..

USED to be it was easier... Corolla up to 86, RWD celicas, various rwd Nissans and Mazda RX2/RX3/RX7, old Capris, Opels, Merkur XR4Ti, even cheap old BMW 318/320... Now almost all of those are all gone and what's left are insanely priced.

So that has lead me to begin advising people to consider a particular car which they made over 2.8 million of in a model run that went from 1975 thru 1993.

Here's some local links for you.
https://maine.craigslist.org/cto/5142814692.html $1200 with auto but later engine with stronger internals

https://maine.craigslist.org/cto/5144501141.html $2200 with manual but not quite as nice rods (I'd get the one with the best bodyshell)

Oh look! Down to fawkin Bawstin:
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/5123571732.html

manual, turbo...cheap and easy.

Don't poo pooo autotragic versions..Anybody with just a few sockets and wrenches can convert these autotragics to manual if a good long push in the driveway

And despite unrelenting irrational resistance by many angry people top this car, hich is really just personal animus toward me and nothing to do with the car, the cars are EXCELLENT cars for both playing rallycross and eventual prepping for rally---which despite everything the cars are still capable of winning national Championships last couple of years in the hardest National Championship series in the world: Finland.

Again to review ANYTHING will do for thrashing as a rallycross car
This for example:
Image: http://images.craigslist.org/00S0S_9iod0ZfZt2a_600x450.jpg

Or a Golf for $900 with a spare roller shell:
https://maine.craigslist.org/cto/5104589246.html

And those would be plenty of fun for rallycross, *_but bear in mind that no matter what you do to them they will never be able to do this._*



So the drone minded moderators sent me this:
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The low level mouth-breathers evidently cannot read beyond what my 8 year old can and see "so, short of placing ads in...you're just going to have to work is saying --in a way even an idiot should be capable of seeing "you can't do this so you have to work"..

As I stress , obvious for even an idiot.....but not from whatever spineless slug they have as moderator---who also, note well signs off the notification with "All the best"..

And like seems to be the norm in some circles, is too much of a pool of festering shit to attach their name to this..

Must be a very miserable existence to not have enough backbone to put your name to actions even when they are absurdly stupid blunders like misreading this throw-away joking

It seems this level of illiteracy and cowardice is a requirement to be a moderator there..coupled with an inability to curd others who they might claim are "complaining" or pretending to be offended....

Idiots...

And i think the so called MODERATOR---which stupidly actually escalated the thing, sometimes visits here---and I sent a note asking...too cowardly or lazy or arrogant to answer, or admit it.

So in the end the poor guys gets platitudes from morons about "become electrical engineer--worked for me" which is a fate worse than death....

oh the huge manatee.....



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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
August 04, 2015 06:29PM
I had forgotten SpecialStage existed...



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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
August 04, 2015 06:58PM
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I had forgotten SpecialStage existed...

Well evidently some poor souls like the kid from Maine find it searching blindly for info on how to get started. The guys in Farmington, just down Hiway 2 from Rumford----on the edge of a million acres of nearly empty woods... he has desire, in a college town..and he gets advice Join Formula SAE ----and flog the log about theoretical bullshit and trivialities yeah that's gonna school him on driving in the woods...

my only concern and mission there is to get poor noobs away from that bastion of "The same ol same ol" which is "just get any old car and learn to drive" and zero thought to personal learning, personal growth, adventure, mystery, challenge---just buy a car, buy a licence, buy a school--which you will be taught by children who are "instructors" and proptly forget all their "truths" due to lack of stress on repetition of skills-- and drive 42 mph and you're a 'rallyracer"...



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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
August 04, 2015 10:03PM
What? No love for Formula or Baja SAE?!
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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
August 04, 2015 11:37PM
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What? No love for Formula or Baja SAE?!

I have met and talked to a whole pile of guys who have been deep into that scene and a lot thru for example Western Washington's Auto Design program..

Basic stuff...Modern design is centered around CAD and FEA.. I'm a dinosaur, but I know that.
These kiddies seem to have never heard of checking the simplest most basic elements of their designs.
I ask about for example Formula Baw-Jaw: What teams win? Do they do it consistently? yes year after year.
Whatt's the biggest differences you see? Weight..How much difference? 80+ pounds
Bear in mind they are saddled with a gross POS ancient junk 10 hp motor....
So when they can be no point in thinking about efficiency in motor or power transmision what does that leave?
Weight and design..
I ask "Why are they 80lbs lighter?
I dunno

Or--Why are you guys 80+ lbs heavier?
I dunno

Ok let'sd start with basics.. What tube size/wall you use?

Whatever

Why that size?

It is what everybody did last time?

Any modelling of the frame?

No

Any FEA or stress tests on the design of the frame?
No

And suspension, a arms--any modelling or FEA done?
No

On and on and on..

One guy who i like did the driving for a Baw-Jaw team and i watched the videoes of testing and of the competition which was up North a bit at a shitty flat MX track mainly on infield at a circle track venue. Few bumps, hard packed dirt surface.
I asked what the biggest problem was?

Huge effort in turning and effort holding a line

Steering desgn was like the last 50 years of car design never occured and the concept of zero-scrub radius steering was yet to be discovered...

Why so much effort to get so much suspension travel on a vehicle run on flat hard surface?

Mumble mumble..

Always was the same..Boy gets whim, or makes a completely grabbed out of his ass assumption and proceeds like nothing else has been discovered..
I have said to others just like these guys "Just because you happened to stumble onto a concept does not mean that is a new concept. Its only new to YOU"

There is a disconnect between effort and potential advantage of ANY "brilliant idea" and no reference to results, theirs or others..
There is a distinct lack of leadership, guidance, mentoring, suggestive nudges..
They are after all a bunch of children in oversized bodies
Basically a bunch of lost kids jerking off and shooting their loads on some 4 wheeled thing.
And in their embarrassment of knowing that everybody knows its a total wank job, they make
PRESS RELEASES and talk it up so that we get guys who seem in person like developmentally disabled/autistic PTSD victims who have never driven a stage at a higher average than 42 mph and never finished above second from LAST go and advise poor innocent kids to get into the big circle jerk.


The very sort I would try my best to keep anybody away from if they said they want to get into the woods in a bike or car and they didn't have a trust fund or indulgent daddy to spoil them.



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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
August 05, 2015 01:34PM
Just don't call up S&T's FSAE shop and tell them the program is a waste. Any experience isn't always good experience, but from the quality of work I've seen come out of that shop, FSAE experience sure as hell never hurt anyone. For every wanker that showed up at an open shop night to practice crashing tools into the lathe, there was at least one guy spending every moment of his free time pouring over designs, laying up carbon, or nit-picking the exhaust manifold design after talking to his ICE professor during office hours. It's a fantastic program.

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Re: Johns building my XR (oh jeez)
August 05, 2015 01:51PM
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So in the end the poor guys gets platitudes from morons about "become electrical engineer--worked for me" which is a fate worse than death....
Quote me accurately john
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Stay in school so you can get a good education and then a good job. Engineering worked for lots of us.



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