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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
November 23, 2015 04:34PM
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I cannot begin to imagine how you conclude its a casting from that piccie.

Think again..no sane person would use a casting (of what?) in a design like that..
So....
Forging without a doubt--too silly to think they would whittle away all that material making it out of a hunk of bar..too much chips, too much machine time.
Steve said that since you don't have access to CNC mills anymore you are no longer intending to make those adapters. Seems to me the thing to do might be to pitch the prints back to who championed the idea for 20 years before you visited and we poked at the idea...

The "non-handed" part is I think a good idea and worthwhile to pursue, but these are cheap enough that spares can be procured and stored just in case.

I was looking at the picture from my phone, so I'm not too sure how it's made. The incredibly rough surface finish and flashing along the edges made me think it's a casting. I don't have a high res picture, or the part in my hand soooo.

As far as me making more parts. I don't have access to the same CNC mills (that had the NC file and the fixture offsets stored), and my hard drive ate the CAD files when it decided to die. I should have new models done here in a week or so. I also have a CNC shop that's should be able to produce them for a very reasonable price.

Soooo... If anyone wants some adapters plates, holla at yo boi.
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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
November 29, 2015 07:37PM
Those stubs look like an OE fitment from something or other, or else why would they bother to make an ABS sensor hole?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the big advantage of these was that they DON'T bend, the big nut tightens down against the inner bearing races, putting the spindle in a tension load instead of a bending one, and it's all one big solid assembly effectively the OD of the inner races.



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
November 29, 2015 08:55PM
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Those stubs look like an OE fitment from something or other, or else why would they bother to make an ABS sensor hole?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the big advantage of these was that they DON'T bend, the big nut tightens down against the inner bearing races, putting the spindle in a tension load instead of a bending one, and it's all one big solid assembly effectively the OD of the inner races.

Yeah that's the big idea. I got the idea of something after so many of the droves of Golves guys all said a) finding the disc brake things was a pain in the ass and that pain was made worse because of how frequently the weenie little 29mm inner and 17,5mm outer stubbie thing bent.

By the way, here's a thing that looks an arf-ful lot like the thing above:
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Somehow I don't think that these things branded Dansk är verkligen dansk.

Hur some helst, for $17 its worth it to grab some to work out some nice simple template so guys can fab their own adapters..



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
November 29, 2015 09:20PM
Link? I'll order up one.
So the thought I'm having is you still need a mount for the brake caliper so it might be as simple as to shave off the existing microstub and bolt these right to it using some longer bolts and possibly dowel them together. Get two birds stoned at once!



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
November 29, 2015 09:38PM
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Link? I'll order up one.
So the thought I'm having is you still need a mount for the brake caliper so it might be as simple as to shave off the existing microstub and bolt these right to it using some longer bolts and possibly dowel them together. Get two birds stoned at once!
It looks like that one is just a regular Mk4 stub, and possibly the one I posted as well, looks like at a minimum it would require cutting off the microstub and drilling some holes.....but I think Culbertson has been down that road already.



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
December 12, 2015 01:33AM
Man I can't wait to get my car on the road. Completely abandoned, every line in this pic is passable. Mostly old leases not in use, oilfield curfew after 7pm, no residential dwellings at all.



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
January 21, 2016 09:24PM
Finally have my shiny new JVABs after a long journey for them!



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
January 22, 2016 10:09AM
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Finally have my shiny new JVABs after a long journey for them!

Are they purdy?



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
January 22, 2016 02:56PM
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Finally have my shiny new JVABs after a long journey for them!

Excellent! I remember in 2002 when I got mine and John was helping me to set up the ride height over the phone. He said, once you get it at the right height (in my case with about 40% droop travel), put some gravel tires on the car and air them up to about 32 PSI. Then find the nearest concrete curb that I can hit at 50-60mph: Hit it and report back.

With regular lubrication and cleaning, they should last for a long time. Mine have at least 50,000 miles on them and 40+ events with no issues. and they are the 41mm version with like 175mm stroke.



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
January 22, 2016 09:36PM
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Finally have my shiny new JVABs after a long journey for them!

Excellent! I remember in 2002 when I got mine and John was helping me to set up the ride height over the phone. He said, once you get it at the right height (in my case with about 40% droop travel), put some gravel tires on the car and air them up to about 32 PSI. Then find the nearest concrete curb that I can hit at 50-60mph: Hit it and report back.

With regular lubrication and cleaning, they should last for a long time. Mine have at least 50,000 miles on them and 40+ events with no issues. and they are the 41mm version with like 175mm stroke.
Wow that's a ton of use and abuse!
Roughly how often do you grease them? I'll wait it lit warms up from -20°C before I try the kirb, closest one of those is 40min away lol.
Finishing up the house and a few other things then hopefully get this thing stripped, stitched and caged.



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
January 22, 2016 11:04PM
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Excellent! I remember in 2002 when I got mine and John was helping me to set up the ride height over the phone. He said, once you get it at the right height (in my case with about 40% droop travel), put some gravel tires on the car and air them up to about 32 PSI. Then find the nearest concrete curb that I can hit at 50-60mph: Hit it and report back.
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i actually had to put my beer down to laugh and so not to drop it
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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
January 23, 2016 03:24PM
I regrease them after every stage rally event or after 6 months of street use.



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
February 19, 2016 10:28PM
Well the build hasn't made much progress so I might as well head down and check it out from the sidelines.




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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
March 18, 2016 07:32PM
Yay, finally put a wrench to the car. Got everything electrical and all the plumbing disconnected to pull the old diesel out. Pulled the rad/support out as well. Gotta love when there's no rust.
Too nice a day to not dig it out of the snow and play around. Garage is being delivered in April/May so then I can really get moving on it.



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Re: Found a needle in the VW Haystack
April 03, 2016 10:57PM
Got it pulled, front clip looks nice and straight. Found the first bit of rust, no perforation.



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