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Re: STI or EVO
January 17, 2016 12:48PM
Not sure we got the Outlander here. What do you use for a rear floorpan?
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Re: STI or EVO
January 17, 2016 01:55PM
we got the outlander in the usa way back around 2000.
i would use the outlander floor, fuel tank and everything awd from it. it's the same basic chassis as the lancer/mirage. the first gen outlander is basically an evo 1-3 just raised up to be an suv



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Re: STI or EVO
January 17, 2016 02:37PM
So are these:



And you can find them really, really cheap, since nobody cares about 15 year old Swedish economy cars.

The Evo 4+ drivetrain bolts in, the underhood bits anyway:



Not sure if the tunnel fits a driveshaft, and the fuel tank is of course all wrong, but the rear suspension is a pair of hubs, diff, and crossmember away from being AWD.

Thus my question - Evo IV bits are a but hard to come by but if Evo VIII bits are hardpoint-similar, that's a start.



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Re: STI or EVO
January 17, 2016 02:48PM
like the idea of the wagon for a driver



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Re: STI or EVO
January 20, 2016 04:40PM
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Many of us on your little site just so happen to like our Subaru's.

What the hell are they putting in the water out there? You used to be a die-hard mitsu guy, still remember my first ride in your GVR4 at the rallyx event at the old roundy round track.

STi 6-speeds are good, WRX 5-speeds are junk. In the Evo world its opposite land - the 5-speeds are good, but the 6-speeds from the MR are junk...though nice for daily driver duty.

Engine....There. Is. No. Comparison. In an Evo running a 34mm restrictor you can touch 300whp and close to 400tq on a stock IX turbo. To hit that just add good IC, bigger injectors and some E85, and it should actually be reliable. STi guys out here are enthused when they crack 215whp on a restrictor...don't recall torque numbers.

Servicibility, I'd give the edge to the Subaru for things like clutch or trans. Mitsu gets the win for ease of replacing spark plugs. A bunch of the other stuff like shocks or driveshafts or whatever are pretty similar.

Dave
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Re: STI or EVO
January 20, 2016 06:04PM
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In an Evo running a 34mm restrictor you can touch 300whp and close to 400tq on a stock IX turbo.

Dave

They're getting quite a bit harder to come by these days. FP cleaned out the warehouses worldwide of them, and used ones are getting old and cracking the turbine housing. It's going to be odd when they're really gone.
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Re: STI or EVO
January 20, 2016 06:26PM
FP?

Dang, I remember when they were $80-100 each on Craigslist from all the people doing big turbo upgrades.



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Re: STI or EVO
January 20, 2016 09:03PM
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FP?

Dang, I remember when they were $80-100 each on Craigslist from all the people doing big turbo upgrades.

Forced Performance. They took oem 9 turbos, machined the housing and turned the 9 turbos into 600whp monsters, that bolt on 100% oem (and passed smog inspections in CA, etc).
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Re: STI or EVO
January 21, 2016 01:26AM
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Many of us on your little site just so happen to like our Subaru's.

What the hell are they putting in the water out there? You used to be a die-hard mitsu guy, still remember my first ride in your GVR4 at the rallyx event at the old roundy round track.

STi 6-speeds are good, WRX 5-speeds are junk. In the Evo world its opposite land - the 5-speeds are good, but the 6-speeds from the MR are junk...though nice for daily driver duty.

Engine....There. Is. No. Comparison. In an Evo running a 34mm restrictor you can touch 300whp and close to 400tq on a stock IX turbo. To hit that just add good IC, bigger injectors and some E85, and it should actually be reliable. STi guys out here are enthused when they crack 215whp on a restrictor...don't recall torque numbers.

Servicibility, I'd give the edge to the Subaru for things like clutch or trans. Mitsu gets the win for ease of replacing spark plugs. A bunch of the other stuff like shocks or driveshafts or whatever are pretty similar.

Dave

Yeah WTF? he gets a Subaru and along with it he get the attitude..."on your little site".

Funnily enough I was just following up some piston orders at CP Pistons today and and talking about the whole compression ratio and boost vs bore size and my guy mentioned "we sell more Subaru pistons than anything"....I guess they need 'em. Constantly.



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Re: STI or EVO
January 21, 2016 05:39AM
Lots of flouride in the water David. That's why I don't drink it. My post said an evo is superior and that the drivetrain and servicibility comments against an sti were off base. Read more carefully
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Re: STI or EVO
January 23, 2016 10:00AM
In jest
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Re: STI or EVO
January 25, 2016 12:55PM
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