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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 20, 2016 12:34PM
The aluminum will look like cheap. Make some crescent tabs for the moon roof panel ti sit in. Full the gap with Bondi, silicone, whatever.

Lexan fitting is not hard. Not having working Windows sucks at rallies. Lexan attracts dust and scratches easy and doesn't last that long. It is very race car, but not really worth the effort our trade offs.

Coilovers clearance needs vary by brand. There are considerations to make before ditching the stock upper. I was tired and thinking you were saying more than you said regarding the upper arm. There are many options, keep in mind tire clearance with whatever you do. Kern runs a 20 mm spacer to clear his Jvabs. Tire might still rub under full compression.
My Compact is a caged project. I might finish it and race it. I might sell it and buy more biotech stocks.



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 20, 2016 01:48PM
well, the actual moon room doesnt exist anymore... sooo yeah spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

unfortunately, yes the lexan will not last long, but mind you this is my first car. Was lexan the smartest choice? nope. easiest? yup.

ah, good point about tire clearance with regards to the coilover. never crossed my mind! hopefully i dont run into any issues. How do I test 'full compression'?

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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 20, 2016 02:36PM
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. How do I test 'full compression'?

Take the spring off. Shock stays
Jack the wheel up till it stops.

Ascertain reason wheel stops.
Measure everything imaginable.



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 20, 2016 03:51PM
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well, the actual moon room doesnt exist anymore... sooo yeah spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

unfortunately, yes the lexan will not last long, but mind you this is my first car. Was lexan the smartest choice? nope. easiest? yup.

ah, good point about tire clearance with regards to the coilover. never crossed my mind! hopefully i dont run into any issues. How do I test 'full compression'?

Take your compact and race me at 100aw!

You should see my Lexan job. I had like two hours to make it work. Only one got mechanical restriant, rest had to stick with silicone as I had no time to devise a method. Hence why they ended the season held in by duct tape...
I believe Brooks kept the stock rail in his car and exactly replicated the window in Lexan and put it in the stock rail. A gutted door is easy to mechanically attach, a non-gutted door is not so much. Also, my lexan was slightly thicker than the glass and is kinda a royal pain in the ass to get into the grooves along the top and sides of the frames. I think it's 1/8".

I don't think Dave's rubbing is enough to be of a concern under full compression. Tire slightly rubs on spring maybe. I don't recall exactly what he said. His has turrets and is a Compact to so perhaps the upper part of the turret is too far outboard to avoid notching the frame rail.
Okay, I won't wait for the DMS...
Let's see what Derik did on his M3. (See attached)
Okay, obviously aftermarket upper and lower arms there.
Let's see what Hintz did...
Nope, no luck finding photos and pretty sure Dave Clark has been effectively chased off by John already. Probably similar since he's also on Reiger I believe. Found a pic in Dave's mobile uploads. Looks similar so yeah, probably need new upper arms. Easy stuff.



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 20, 2016 04:08PM
Makes sense, I will just have to remember to check clearance once I mount the gravels.

Those upper arms really depend if John wants to do it, ha. I game either way.

1 door is gutted, the other is not...yet. I just hope I don't have to duct tape everything, I prefer electrical tape. It makes everything nice and gooey. But for real, some sealant might be needed. I'll have to test it out later. I am hesitant installing them as they will just be scratched during the remaining construction



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 20, 2016 05:28PM
Sealant would be better than duct tape for sure.
Find a moonroof panel. Seriously. So much easier. Are you a two door or four door. I might be able to find one for you.
There's plenty of upper arms out there. We will start making them also if there is not. Guessing Hintz and Nelson didn't just make theirs, maybe they did though.



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 20, 2016 05:45PM
mine is 4 door. Look how simple this is, lol



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 20, 2016 06:31PM
If it's done then it's done so no point in worrying about it! smiling smiley



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 20, 2016 06:42PM
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If it's done then it's done so no point in worrying about it! smiling smiley

oops, I should have mentioned that is not my car. This person just did the same thing I had thought about doing. Just visualization if you will.



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 22, 2016 02:00AM
Little update. I got to the shop today and got to work cranking out little tasks. First order of business was to finished removing the sound deadening tar. After that was complete, I sprayed goo-gone basically everywhere inside the car to get the sticky junk out. A few hours and about 40 sheets of paper towels later, it all cleaned up. kinda (still some junk left). Next was to adjust the front coilovers and check the ride height. This is with the bottom flang 3.75inch above the top ear piece.



A few months ago I started cutting wires that went to the rear of the car and had no idea if I cut something vital. So I also started the car successfully today with no problems. Now in preperation for moving my car build from a pest control shop to my parents farm, I started re-assembling the car so I can make the 90 mile drive to its new home next weekend. This is where the car will remain until completion. So yeah, just a small update. chow



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 22, 2016 10:09PM
BMW tar is horrible but I found something worse. Chevy Sonic. It's so bad I haven't seen one that the person didn't give up and actually finished it on.
Heat gun with a thin scraper and then goo gone or similar and time. Definitely kills some brain cells. I weighed it all on one E36, 30-40 lbs I think...



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 22, 2016 10:40PM
Oh I definitely lost some IQ while burning tar and spraying solvent. I totally believe you about the weight, it felt like 30lbs lol. I gave up (took a break) 3 separate times. It just takes forever!



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 31, 2016 11:14AM
Hintz has gone to these with a spacer to raise ride height.
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/eib-08755750300/overview/

This could be a non spacer option.
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/eib-09505000300/overview/

They broke bottom mount twice with coils. Bradenvurg did at least once. Roger Matthews did his Saturday.



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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 31, 2016 12:16PM
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Hintz has gone to these with a spacer to raise ride height.
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/eib-08755750300/overview/

This could be a non spacer option.
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/eib-09505000300/overview/

They broke bottom mount twice with coils. Bradenvurg did at least once. Roger Matthews did his Saturday.

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Re: E36 M42 Build
October 31, 2016 12:38PM




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