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Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class

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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 06:06AM
Definitely agreed. As I said to Ascona, I'm not ordering the DSS axles unless I just start destroying CV's. As you pointed out, DSS beefs up the shaft, which is not the weak link. I was actually lucky, because the rolling chassis I purchased came with Raxles installed, so I had beefed up internals already.
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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 12:00PM
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I was actually lucky, because the rolling chassis I purchased came with Raxles installed, so I had beefed up internals already.

No, you don't. Raxles are somewhere above Chinese junk and below OEM.



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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 01:21PM
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The only real fix is to not use all that much steering when under power! VWMS had you put a 17 or 19mm collar on each side of the rack to limit steering travel. .

There is some small chance that some are looking at this thread not for the rediculous clusterfuck of over-jerking off that it is but because a few brave souls are correcting the point-by-point bullshit.

That being said, and for those who might possibly be interested in actually driving a car--rather than taking 9 months to talk about how cool all the useless junk is---
Here:



8mm spacer, both sides.



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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 03:44PM
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I was actually lucky, because the rolling chassis I purchased came with Raxles installed, so I had beefed up internals already.

No, you don't. Raxles are somewhere above Chinese junk and below OEM.


Well, this is disheartening. Any background references to this opinion? I guess I'll eat up the Raxles first time out, and keep the two sets of rebuilt GTi axles as my spares, for when (Not if) needed.
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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 03:48PM
Rebuilt by whom? CVJ Axles seem to be the PNW and Colorado's choice axles (and hell mine are still good even after driving a stage after a ball joint failure)
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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 03:59PM
As Pete said, there is a huge difference between spending and wasting. It was time to consolidate. Only thing that makes sense to do this right. I had two 10'x10' storage units, a 10'x20', and a 10'x40'. Along with my two sheds full of tools and shop equipment from when I shut my business down in 2009; that was just too much wasteful spending, and too many locations for logistics of parts/materials/tools/vehicles storage and shuffling.

So I got rid of all the storage units, and my large shed at the house for my toys and vehicles. Took up a lease on this 60' x 100' building. Going to use one side for Bad Co. Racing, and all of the associated tools, spares, equipment, trailer, etc... Going to use the other side for my classic Mercedes, the Land Rover off-roader, the motorcycles, and a few of my boats. Works out well as I can keep a couple of my yacht tenders in here as well. Hell, during a hurricane, if I can get a trailer big enough, I'll put the yacht in here. The 6.5 meter tender I tow looks like a bathtub toy in this building.

So now, over the rest of September, I have to move the shop equipment, the tool boxes, the welders, the plasma cutter, and all of the $h!t I collected over having the business for 8 years, and working on cars over 25 years. I think the only enjoyable part of this is going to bring the bikes over one at a time, when the weather is good.

This is making me much more excited about getting the drivetrain done, and getting the car from the tuners shop to my own, so I can work on some stuff myself. Hopefully, once I am actually doing manual labor again, it will get me back into the swing of things. Have sat behind a desk for too many years now.
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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 04:05PM
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Rebuilt by whom? CVJ Axles seem to be the PNW and Colorado's choice axles (and hell mine are still good even after driving a stage after a ball joint failure)

They were just done at the local in-town axle shop. Nothing fancy, just factory specs.
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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 05:53PM
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They were just done at the local in-town axle shop. Nothing fancy, just factory specs.

If they are rebuilt to "factory specs", the only thing done is they are cleaned, honed, and balls replaced and you get new grease.

Usually rebuilds involve regrinding the bores and installing oversize balls. Virtually always without re-hardening the bores so, they 1) wear out fast 2) operate with reduced articulation before the oversized balls pop over-center and damage the joints real quick.



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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 07:59PM
I'm always disappointed when my oversize balls pop out....I try to keep them hidden



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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 08:17PM
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Well, this is disheartening. Any background references to this opinion? I guess I'll eat up the Raxles first time out, and keep the two sets of rebuilt GTi axles as my spares, for when (Not if) needed.

Find Derek Bottles' trials and tribulations with axles and hubs in his Golf. I recall somewhat dimly that he found the super-awesome-dragstrip-d00d parts are garbage for stuff that involves turning and hitting things sometimes.



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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 07, 2016 08:26PM
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Well, this is disheartening. Any background references to this opinion? I guess I'll eat up the Raxles first time out, and keep the two sets of rebuilt GTi axles as my spares, for when (Not if) needed.

Find Derek Bottles' trials and tribulations with axles and hubs in his Golf. I recall somewhat dimly that he found the super-awesome-dragstrip-d00d parts are garbage for stuff that involves turning and hitting things sometimes.

Hey they did last 4 stages...The trick shit he first got was machined by people who probably are related to the geniuses who seem to be advising this mook here..All blah blah but no clue what a fillet radius is so CRACK! in the hub...

Typical big noise BSers. Thousand HPs!!!
Derek had maybe 139 whp..



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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 08, 2016 12:47AM
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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 08, 2016 05:45AM
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Rebuilt by whom? CVJ Axles seem to be the PNW and Colorado's choice axles (and hell mine are still good even after driving a stage after a ball joint failure)

David;

I found CVJ on-line. I will get a quote from them. Will be good to have a resource once these cages explode, and drop S.S. ball bearings all over the place.

Thanks for the information.
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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 08, 2016 12:55PM
There was mention earlier in the thread of Golf, TT and 5 and 6 speed boxes, so for clarity, what shafts and CVs have you got?

Presume they will be 108mm inners, but are they the six ball Rzeppa, or the Tripod type inner CVs?
Are they the nut or bolt type outer CVs?



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Re: Mark 4 VW 1.8T GTi Build - RallyCross - MF Class
September 08, 2016 01:25PM
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There was mention earlier in the thread of Golf, TT and 5 and 6 speed boxes, so for clarity, what shafts and CVs have you got?

Presume they will be 108mm inners, but are they the six ball Rzeppa, or the Tripod type inner CVs?
Are they the nut or bolt type outer CVs?

Don't encourage him.
Ask a question like that and it'll be another 100 posts about his plans and 20 photos of nothing of interest..
And you'll delay by another 6 months the guy ever daring to pull up to the line of


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