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Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions

Posted by ElectroTech 
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Steve Wheeler
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Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 25, 2016 11:33PM
Since we moved to the farm 40 mins from town we find that the wife is now using the truck more often than not and both vehicles are getting near the end of their low cost of ownership phase. Basically we pay them out in 4-5 years then run them to about 10yrs where the possibility of getting a major dollar repair goes up. We are probably going to go with another 2 yr old low mileage Diesel 3/4 or 1 ton (yes it tows regularly at max GCWR) which leads me to the reason for this post, I will likely buy a car to replace the outgoing suv.

What under $20k new to 2yrs old 4dr 2wd car today would you buy to turn into a rally car 10+yrs from now?
I don't really have any brand loyalty, I like Mk2 VWs but they don't build anything all that enticing now.



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Eric Ewert
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volvo 240


Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 26, 2016 01:03AM
brz. Inline rwd gearbox makes for easier swapping down the road, and being a j160 box it already has options not to mention 2-6 stock ratios are pretty good. The car is related to toyota which opens up engine possibilities (beams) if you don't want to stick with the flat 4. I think toyota diff which may make for easy swaps/ easy to find ring and pinions. Also reasonable weight and fun to drive now.



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Steve Wheeler
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 26, 2016 01:21AM
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Eric Ewert
brz. Inline rwd gearbox makes for easier swapping down the road, and being a j160 box it already has options not to mention 2-6 stock ratios are pretty good. The car is related to toyota which opens up engine possibilities (beams) if you don't want to stick with the flat 4. I think toyota diff which may make for easy swaps/ easy to find ring and pinions. Also reasonable weight and fun to drive now.
Forgot to put the 4dr part, car seat friendly....
Anyone have any experience with the new 1.5l turbo Hondas? Only issue I can see is that it appears there's no manual trans available but thinking I must be missing something.



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Chad Eixenberger
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 26, 2016 08:05AM
I'd probably go Fiesta.

But then I also bought a MKII VW rally car 10 years ago...so I'm a fan of having a car that's common at events.
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DanielSL
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 26, 2016 09:48AM
In the 20K range, you can start looking at Mk. 5 and 6 Golfs and GTI's. 4 door option. Small turbo 4 with 5 and 6 speed options. In another 10 years, more than enough of them will have aftermarket parts support. If you wanted to go up to 4wd, you could even get a high mileage R32 at this point in time. They definitely will last 10+ years, and have proven to be good high mileage, reliable cars.
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 26, 2016 10:09AM
rebuilt comprehensively 1992 Volvo 240 turbo..
engine
box
axle
brakes
suspension busings
select stitch-welding
some sorta paint..
cost maybe the same

10 times easier to keep going--for example to check gearbox oil level--pull a plug and stick finger in..New nazi vergeltungwaffenmachinen: you are not authorized to check gearbox oil level Steng Verboten.!

Immeasurably more fun.



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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 26, 2016 10:47AM
Rx7!!!!!



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Alex Staidle
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 26, 2016 10:48AM
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Rx7!!!!!

Just kidding. Dont own one for any reason.



First Rally: 2010 First RallyX: 2004 (a bunch)
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Jeremy Livingston
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 26, 2016 12:01PM
id go hyundai genesis or fiesta st. both will have mad junkyard support in 10years 1 more than other for rally bits. with the wrc Yaris on the horizon???eh???mmm no to hard to make fast. not alotta 4dr 2wd awsome out there that isn't econo driven. honda civic si?



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Tony P
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 31, 2016 09:18AM
basic Fiesta or Mazda 2



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Thomas Kimsey
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
May 31, 2016 09:51AM
If you are going to look at the non-ST fiestas I think the one to have is the 1.0L 3cyl turbo.
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Tony P
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
June 02, 2016 04:16PM
I'm not sure teh 3 cyl turbo is available in Canada.



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ElectroTech
Steve Wheeler
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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
June 02, 2016 04:28PM
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Towona
I'm not sure teh 3 cyl turbo is available in Canada.
Seems to be in limited quantities but I have an inside line at Ford......too bad I dislike the car. Wonder what the new 1.5Turbo Civic is like?



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Re: Secondary transport to Someday Rally Car Opinions
June 02, 2016 07:03PM
the new civic earth whateva is ok, surprising for what it is and sure to have r and d thown relentlessy at it to make it fast by hondaphiles so notta bad ideaer. lotsa parts cars and for a daily i really lkie the looks and styling inner and outter. the kid that rents my upstairs suite out has one and makes me drive all his cars. if i fit better id drive one



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