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Pre 1950s rally car?

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Pre 1950s rally car?
June 20, 2016 10:22AM
Ridiculous idea but if you were to build a pre 50s car for gravel, what would it be. Modern drivetrain and suspension so its mostly dimesions and cosmetic.
I've seen video of a 49 Ford Tudor drifting and I like the Hudson Brougham but 200" length and 125" wheelbase would make that one tough.
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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 20, 2016 10:35AM
Nash metropolitan wait not that was early 50s....



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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 20, 2016 10:55AM
I have driven a 1950 Ford which is basically the same as what you are looking at it is was terrible. Even with the flat head V8 is was slow, cumbersome, and hard to see out of. All of the ergonomics were terrible. So from a starting point I am not sure you could find something worse.

From a dimension standpoint it is basically the same size as an extended cab Ford Ranger. Might be "easiest" to just start with a truck frame and build body mounts for the shell you want to use.

Don't most of these old cars have under floor masters for the braking. So maybe racing has come full circle with the fancy floor mounted pedal boxes that everyone is drooling over.

Also there is this:



I know we are putting cages in cars, etc. But a good bit of safety is likely coming from the base cars ability to shed energy during an impact and not do thinks like impale the driver with the steering wheel.
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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 20, 2016 11:03AM
I have 2 '38 Ford truck cabs and a '51 Buick sitting at my dads farm (because farms don't look right without some old cars sitting in a field).

I'd probably do something like this:


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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 20, 2016 11:55AM
Mercedes Benz 170 V. 1949-1955. First car built by MB to be an "S" class. I would install an S55 drivetrain, with the supercharged V8. No turbo-lag. Would be a hoot. Only a 112", so not too bad.Only about a foot longer than Mk. 3 through Mk. 7 GTi's that I'm used to.
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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 20, 2016 09:34PM
Volkswagen?



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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 21, 2016 08:54AM
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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 21, 2016 09:36AM
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On that note...

Saab!
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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 21, 2016 09:50AM
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On that note...

Saab!

The 96 isn't that old!
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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 21, 2016 11:47AM
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Early 60s



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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 21, 2016 11:51AM
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On that note...

Saab!

Considering Saab began making cars first in November 1949 (and took cars no 3 and 7 off the line to prep for Monte Carlo) might be hard to find pre-1950s Saabs..That thing above is early 60s..
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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 21, 2016 12:13PM
something like this; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/BuckBaker1949OldsmobileRocket.jpg



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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 21, 2016 12:17PM
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Early 60s

????

PV444 was in production in the 40s.
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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 21, 2016 04:14PM
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Early 60s

????

PV444 was in production in the 40s.

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Re: Pre 1950s rally car?
June 21, 2016 04:44PM
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On that note...

Saab!

The 96 isn't that old!

Never trust google image search...

But as John said, the 92 started production in 1949. Maybe they only made 4 of them in '49, still fits the question.
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