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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
January 13, 2017 01:41PM
While Ryan at [URL="[url]http://thompsonracingfabrication.com/"[/url];]Thompson Racing Fabrication[/URL] was busy putting the finishing touches to our cage we were engaged in the less glamorous, but never the less critical task of sorting through all the parts we took off the car. i.e. everything. It doesn't make riveting viewing but here is what we faced:

[url=https://flic.kr/p/QeBpoX][img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/52/31659146935_b76f1a6d2c_c.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/QeBpoX]image[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/team_illuminata/]Team Illuminata Motorsport[/url], on Flickr


and here's what's left to deal with:

[url=https://flic.kr/p/PT4821][img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/674/31426518334_d9615480d8_c.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/PT4821]image[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/team_illuminata/]Team Illuminata Motorsport[/url], on Flickr


and here's where it all went:

[url=https://flic.kr/p/PVNH5T][img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/633/31457655743_0002d06e63_c.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/PVNH5T]image[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/team_illuminata/]Team Illuminata Motorsport[/url], on Flickr


By the way there is an identical shelf behind the camera and a complete interior in the parts trailer. (more on that later)

Our filing philosophy was to retrieve everything we need or might need for the build and then decide what to do with the rest. This all went into one of two piles: if it might serve as a spare part for our 85 quattro it went in the KEEP pile. If not it went in the SELL pile. There is a lot in the KEEP pile; probably way too much but how do you know what you won't need one day? More importantly, how do you know what you have? Well, being super-nerds we created a spreadsheet with all the KEEP and SELL parts listed along with their part numbers and a photograph. I think we are still going to have too much stuff!

Meanwhile, at TRF, Automotive Journalist [URL="https://www.facebook.com/tara.rottenhurlin?fref=ts";]Tara Turbo-Hurlin[/URL] was busy documenting Ryan's handy work for a soon to be published article. Check out her photos:

15724600_1619043068404863_4909803094314230541_o by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

15697475_1619042915071545_2285291684832066773_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

15726974_1619043941738109_6874472111315882210_n by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr



Stay tuned for more spreadsheet action!

transformation by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr



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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
January 19, 2017 10:31PM
Progress both up and down the state of Michigan this week.

We and the Quattro Squad "filed" the last of the pile of parts "we" took off the car.

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Then proceeded to fill the floor with all the parts the previous owner took off the car that have been resting in the parts trailer for 13 years. Some good stuff in here: two sets of wheel, full interior, all the glass. Some of this we need, some will make good spares for our 85 and some we can get rid of.

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Meanwhile, up north at Thompson Racing Fabrication they wer keeping warm by welding on our cage and installing the new aluminium (it's German) rear bulkhead.

16114245_1627110210931482_1826577289610259263_nTara Turbo-Hurlin by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

16114330_1627110577598112_8144196697396533355_nTara Turbo-Hurlin by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

16142755_1627110580931445_3339272179656459664_nTara Turbo-Hurlin by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

15977071_1627110367598133_5874796021293810145_nTara Turbo-Hurlin by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


You can see all their handy work here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/team_illuminata/albums/72157661951402543/with/32357568746/

<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/team_illuminata/albums/72157661951402543"; title="83URQ"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8016/29640685286_3d8cfeb74c.jpg"; width="500" height="279" alt="83URQ"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Now the shell rests while we order body panels but work will soon commence on refurbishing all the other parts necessary to reassamble the car as a Grop B monster. Subscribed and stay tuned.

transformation by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr



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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
February 09, 2017 04:14PM
With the cage complete the shell is now in storage up north awaiting the wide body kit so we thought "what should we do next?" We'll, we ordered a carbon/kevlar wide body kit of course: Should arrive from Europe in 6-8 weeks.

IMAG1715 by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

IMAG1720 by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

a2_01 by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

a2_02 by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Of course we do have lots of parts to refurbish so we started to look at those and figure out how to go about things. First we pulled out our collection of Hella 2000 lights.

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


we have about 10 lights in various conditions, beams finishes and levels of completeness and we need 6 pristine black ones, preferabley two spots, two driving and two fogs. Then we'll need some brackets to mount them. Like these ideally:

226643_196363173742528_3059537_n by Tim Maskus, on Flickr

We also pulled out the brake parts we got with the project: Refurbished G60 twin piston calipers. ATE brake discs and refurbished stock rear calipers. We also got new rear rubber lines and front stainless lines. We still need to source front caliper brackets and probably some better pads. There's also a theory that our brake discs might be a little big for the G60 calipers. Once we figure it all out we'll send them off for plating or powder coating.

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr



Still trying to inventory all the left over parts for USE, SELL or SAPRES:

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr



Stay tuned


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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
February 09, 2017 06:29PM
that kit looks fancy. who made it



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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
February 10, 2017 06:59AM
cool wheels in Latvia.



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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
February 10, 2017 09:18AM
I don't know what makes me more happy; the light brackets or the body kit. My god, this is going to be so wonderful when completed.
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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
February 10, 2017 09:35AM
You planning to rally this thing?

If so, what sanctioning body will let you run carbon/kevlar doors?



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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
February 10, 2017 10:06AM
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You planning to rally this thing?

If so, what sanctioning body will let you run carbon/kevlar doors?

we are running steel doors josh. Picture is generic from the suppliers web site. Steel trunk too. #cheapskate.



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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
February 19, 2017 01:19PM
This week at Quattro Squad we started to get our head around the refurbishment projects and alocated some to a couple of the students. Matt took on the struts and brake calipers. The struts are almost complete as the previous owner installed new bearings and Koni dampers, had them powder coated and sourced a coilover kit. More on that later. He also provided varoius remanufactured brake calipers as noted earlier. We are missing caliper calipers for the front twin piston calipers so our friend Werner lent us a set he has in his parts stash to test fit. Now we know what we need and that our pads and dicss will all work together.

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Unfortunately it seems our remanufactured rear calipers are not correct as the handbrake cable and brake line connection will both interfere with the axle. We think they are off a 4000 or similar but fortunately remanufacturd Quattro calipers seem to be still available.

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


Josh started pulling the various OE parts we need to retain some sort of ventilation and heating system in the car. Apparantyl we need the patr of the dash pad adjacent to the windscreen and the heater box to do this. We spent a good 2 hours of time trying to figure out what part was missing that would connect the defrost air outlet in the heater to the defrost air inlet in the bottom of the dash pad.

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr

image by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr



We couldn't find anything in any parts diagrams nor a stray bit of plastic in our parts bins that seemd to do the job. We were stumped until we stumbled upon this picture from earlier in the build:

image1trf by Team Illuminata Motorsport, on Flickr


in it you can clearly see that the dash pad mates to the hole in the body work and the heater box mounts below. e couldn't find a missing piece because we weren't missing a piece. DOH!


and then today our seats arrived form Corbeau USA. [URL="[url]https://teamilluminata.com/collections/seats/products/corbeau-sprint-fia-fixed-back-seat?variant=1580851012"[/url];]FIA carbon/kevlar SPRINT model[/URL] in regular and wide sizes.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/RXg6GG][img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3666/32786834772_6c1880d883_c.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/RXg6GG]image[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/team_illuminata/]Team Illuminata Motorsport[/url], on Flickr


[url=https://flic.kr/p/S5HZK4][img]https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2684/32871298221_8a1a9a4439_c.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/S5HZK4]Transformation[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/team_illuminata/]Team Illuminata Motorsport[/url], on Flickr



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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
March 09, 2017 03:39PM
Recent Quattro Squad gatherings have looked more like meetings of the Mono Squad what with exams and scheduling conflicts. Still, we have made some progress.

We got the bushings pressed out of the front subframe. We had to burn them first as the bolts were seized in place. Fortunately the front subframe was prepped and powder coated by the previous owner and already has solid bushings.








Our aircraft grade top mount bearings arrived too and with the help of the Epicenter Design adapter pieces we managed to assemble a strut.









and we received a picture of our completed grill from Cool Wheels this week so that's quite exciting.




Next time we update we hope to have four fully assembled struts complete with brakes and maybe a resealed diff!






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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
March 17, 2017 03:27PM
The 83 quattro squad rally build keeps inching forward. A few days ago we received these beautiful G60 brake caliper brackets from a very generous chap on the Motorgeek forum. Thanks Dave, they will be put to good use.



We offered them up to our struts and calipers and they fit perfectly.






Only question now is how to finish these and the calipers for best effect. Options are:

1. Red powder coat
2. Black powder coat
3. Yellow dichromate like OE (gold)

Feel free to weigh in.



Here's an interesting aspect to the project. We found this 1:18 die-cast model on eBay. Quite cheap; probably because it is quite plain.



We thought it would be a good idea to refinish it in the same livery we are planning to finish the car in. That is, our version of Rothmans with BRAID and TIM logos.




So first we had to strip it:




We are not sure how to proceed from here however. Damn, another bloody Quattro project! Stay tuned.





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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
March 17, 2017 03:48PM
Great model. It has the wheels I have been waiting for you to buy for this project. Braid dealer or not. Nothing like the real Fuchs wheels from the early cars. There was a set in Colorado for sale up on eBay last month, and I was just waiting to see them posted here in this thread.

Great progress, as always.
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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
March 17, 2017 04:53PM
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Great model. It has the wheels I have been waiting for you to buy for this project. Braid dealer or not. Nothing like the real Fuchs wheels from the early cars. There was a set in Colorado for sale up on eBay last month, and I was just waiting to see them posted here in this thread.

Great progress, as always.


LOL you know we can't do that right Daniel?

New BRAIDs arrive next week.



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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
April 05, 2017 10:05PM
With the caliper brackets fitting well we took the opportunity to muck up a front strut before sending the calipers off to be refinished. We are still not sure what color to refinish them. Options include black or red powder coating or gold zinc dichromate like they were from the factory.





We started in on the model's livery. Tried some blue vinyl but we are not sure it is really suited to cars this small as it won't mold into the crevices well.




We did one side with the factory droop to the front bumper, which we have never liked, and the other with a full straight line to the back of the headlight. Which do you prefer?




We then added some BRAID decals




Our BRAID wheels came in from Europe. We love 'em.






They are three piece with hidden screws and reminiscent of the factory Speedlines. Specs are 16x9, et12. We could resist throwing one on our 85 but, of course, they are way too wide for this car.




As part of our quest to prep as many parts that are going to need refinishing as possible we pressed out the bushings from the lower control arms.




and disassembled some Hella 2000 lights as we have some chrome ones that need to be black.




This is the pile so far. The parts in front still need disassembling.






Quattro Squad




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Re: Audi UR Quattro Rally Build
April 06, 2017 06:23AM
All right Paul...

Please tell me those Braids can be ordered in a one piece, 15 x 6.5 or 7, with an ET between 38 and 43.

So close to my factory Corrado Speedlines, that I must possess them, if possible. If it can be done, please let me know pricing, availability, lead time, etc...
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