Roll Cage question
Posted by SideburnsSteve
John Vanlandingham Ultra Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Oh, thank Gawd..What a relief! I can put away the tatami mat and the tanto away.
Sure, lotsa people have..In late 90s VW motorsport subbed out work to SBD in Daventry in the very lower edge of the Midlands and they ran them in British rally Champignonskit... Despite the ROAD CAR versions being significantly porkier than MkII and MkIII, the rally car versions were fine.. I have great sympathy about the lack of mkII and III cars, they're rarer than hell here..One thing is the simply didn't sell loadsa the buggers... Two things that I would without fail do ifn I wuz gonna fawk with one: a) I'd make sure i could use the Corrado or whatever big bearing , separate caliper style front knuckle rather than the MK4 socket and pinch style.... 
rather than 
2 reasons: 1)the distance from face where the wheel hits the disc to strut centerline is fixed and stock it is so close that VW puts a little flat dent in the side of the lower tube right where the rimof the wheel is.. That's nuts close...With the "normal" knuckle we have no wheel to strut contact worries. 2) in order to install the strut, the top of the knuckle must be below the very bottom of the strut and at least on some other cars that have the same Poke-in-and-pinch mounting style that I have actual in-depth experience (ripping hair out in huge piles) Ford: getting the whole knuckle down low enough is a bear and you begin to think about reducing overall strut length and shortening travel.. With Corrado knuckles and convention "ear" type mounting we can get the 200mm tront travel and installing is normal. Second: MkI, II, and III Vw was kind enough to supply nice rear towers The OEM rear shock is a coiloover..Makes using coilovers a snap..Make using my favorite 50mm Bilstein with 236mm shaft travel a snap--and as there are MANY progressive foward thinking guys out there in Focus, Xratty, 240 Volvos, AE86s and above all millions of Golf guys already using that shock, there is an increased chance you can scrounge on in a pinch Mk4 the filthy bastids eliminated the tower, used a skinny ass little 33mm OD shock and set it VERT CLOSE  to the inner wheelhousing wall...and the spring was a short little POS crammed between the subframe and the lower arm where swapping of setting height---a snap in a MkI, II, or III--is a plague of biblical proportions.. More time, more money to find the right spring..
However. Simple solution: 
You (or somebody) has a derelict MkII or 3...simple drill out the spot welds and then "cut-n-shut".. You cut a hole, and you shut the hole. See "Project Binky" for motivation (yeah it'll cost a few cups of tea but do it once--a semi-skilled job---and life is good forever after) There. those are the only 2 consederations... John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
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John Vanlandingham Ultra Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Stephen Hollema Elite Moderator Location: Alliston ONT CANADA Join Date: 01/18/2016 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 49 Rally Car: yes please |
hahahaha!! ok that's encouraging! So basically buy some tape, a case of beer, and bring a buddy and I'll be golden
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So the owner of the MK2 golf found the log book...
 Log book by Stephen Hollema, on Flickr
He say it has no rust atm. The floors had some but it was fixed with fiberglass. Dunno how big of a hole(s) there was, I'd prefer sheet metal. |
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Thanks again for the comments guys. Good info and some good humour
I might go see the car, but Im really thinking of just passing on it. I should get more serious into rallycross and club events first anyways. If I go see it I'll take pics of the cage. Yes Im up in Canada, but I dont speak french either. Actually I doubt that even 20% of Canadians can actually speak french. Its really stupid that we are forced to put everything in both english and french. We actually loose out because some companies find that its not worth it to make a new label for a product with french also, so they dont sell to us. Lame. At the same time, the french speakers are generally the biggest rally fans. So I love em! |
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