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Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 28, 2008 10:15PM
Well,

All this talk about Volvo's has made me seriously look into a 242 for a rally car. I've found one, 83 242 Flathood, turbo'd and intercooled. Very nice shape, no rust and alot of the little bits have been tended to already.

Before I actually purchase it, any concerns with this model? I did the forum search and did not find anything addressing this model specifically. Figure I'll draw from the collective well before spending cash... this time! smiling smiley

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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 28, 2008 10:34PM
Well, it is a volvo so it will never be as cool as a corolla.



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 28, 2008 11:38PM
Zagato78 Wrote:
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> Well,
>
> All this talk about Volvo's has made me seriously
> look into a 242 for a rally car. I've found one,
> 83 242 Flathood, turbo'd and intercooled. Very
> nice shape, no rust and alot of the little bits
> have been tended to already.
>
> Before I actually purchase it, any concerns with
> this model? I did the forum search and did not
> find anything addressing this model specifically.
> Figure I'll draw from the collective well before
> spending cash... this time!
>

Hey Dan go for it.
That is a "K-Jet" or "CIS" injection system. Nothing wrong, just wants clean fuel with no water if its going to or has sat for long periods.
It should have IIRC the most desirable of all the Volvo motors the B23.
It's most desirable because its 2300 and has a forged steel crank that cannot be hurt even in 500+ bhp motors so if you use you brain and don't go crazy, it'll make all the power you can use and have a huge margin of safety.

How much?
What color?

I had heard you were thinking of a 131, what's the que paso on that?

Did anybody decide to get George Beckermans car and goodies?



> Dan
>
>






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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 28, 2008 11:39PM
Nor will it come close to an Abarth 131, Lancia 037 or a Delta Integrale, or.... well you get the idea. One thing it does have is existence, because in this part of the world Corollas(and the above mentioned) disappeared a long time ago. grinning smiley

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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 28, 2008 11:45PM
The car is in use as a daily driver so it's not suffered from sitting. It's the silver with blue interior. Price is still being negotiated, so I'll update as we progress.

I was really looking into the 131, just can't help myself when its Italian. But, the lessons from the Beta Coupe have slowed me. Parts are hard to find, at least the body stuff. The one i have found is a pile of rust vaguely resembling a Fiat, at least 6 months of welding before we even get to the race mods. If I did run a 131, I'd swap the rear to a Volvo unit anyway. So... why not just run a Volvo and save all the fab work. A volvo unit comes with the 242! smiling smiley

The final thing that's pushing me is the "don't love your rally car". I love Italian cars and always wind up trying to make them perfect. Volvos on the other hand are cars that i'll walk out daily and kick for good measure.

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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 28, 2008 11:48PM
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> i'll walk
> out daily and kick for good measure.

And swear at it in good Italian "Eh! Putana Svedicci! Minga!"





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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 28, 2008 11:53PM
LOL that's perfect!

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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 12:52AM
Psshh. Corollas are more in existence then Volvos. Volvos only exist as good/cool cars to old men and finnish people.



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 01:11AM
You haven't been to the Midwest recently. 2001 Chevy's are already rusted past the door handles
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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 03:03AM
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> Psshh. Corollas are more in existence then Volvos.
> Volvos only exist as good/cool cars to old men and
> finnish people.

And Corollas exist to all the drifter fag kids or old men. And you can never do anything about how ugly they are.
Just kidding. Not all drifter kids are fags. smiling smiley





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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 03:07AM
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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 11:11AM
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> Psshh. Corollas are more in existence then Volvos.
> Volvos only exist as good/cool cars to old men and
> finnish people.
>
> Feisty Peacock?


So, by that logic Ford trucks are much, much more "in existance" than corollas, ergo corollas only exist as better than good/cold cars to middle aged men and japanese people?



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 11:31AM
Why do volvo people care so much about the shape of their hoods?
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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 12:21PM
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> Why do volvo people care so much about the shape
> of their hoods?

No idea.
You have to park them rifgt next to eachother and have a Volvo-perv take you by the hand to point out the differences.
Meh!

All I know is the round headlight versions look 10 times better than the ones with 2 portable TVs for headlights!!!!






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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 12:33PM
John the 240 will have the 2.1 and will need an NPR intercooler and Cossie turbo right out of the box.

The 240 will make a fine rallycar.

I'm sure having a ball with my naughty 240.



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 12:36PM
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> John the 240 will have the 2.1 and will need an
> NPR intercooler and Cossie turbo right out of the
> box.

That's easy.........

Well he probably can struggle on if somebody lent him a stock intercooler while he tracks down a Isuzu part.

Or he could just go rent a Hertz truck for the evening........
>
> The 240 will make a fine rallycar.
>
> I'm sure having a ball with my naughty 240.
>
Hey what year did get the 2.3T in 240s?
And the intercooler?





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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 12:51PM
The flathood turbo car should have a stock intercooler that is as restrictive as can be.

All the 240's with K-Jet and a turbo got a 2.1.

The 240 never got the 2.3 turbo with pulsed injection. Too bad as it would have been a hoot.

700 Kars got the B23FT and then the B230FT; always with pulsed injection.



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 01:39PM
darkknight9 Wrote:
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> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Psshh. Corollas are more in existence then
> Volvos.
> > Volvos only exist as good/cool cars to old
> men and
> > finnish people.
> >
> > Feisty Peacock?
>
>
> So, by that logic Ford trucks are much, much more
> "in existance" than corollas, ergo corollas only
> exist as better than good/cold cars to middle aged
> men and japanese people?
>
> Kirk Coughlin
> Hudson, WI
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> Prepping for Club level dates in 2007
>
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> telum est.


Sure! Fords are in existance... Not everyone can have a Chevy! grinning smiley



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 01:41PM
john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> Carl S Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do volvo people care so much about the
> shape
> > of their hoods?
>
> No idea.
> You have to park them rifgt next to eachother and
> have a Volvo-perv take you by the hand to point
> out the differences.
> Meh!
>
> All I know is the round headlight versions look 10
> times better than the ones with 2 portable TVs for
> headlights!!!!

Hahah.. I love how you answer things john! Carl, the difference is noticeable enough. The whole "look" problem with 240s stems from the fact that it's a 140 with the front end stretched from in front of the front axle.. It's around 6 inches. The flathood is the better looking of the two and doesn't matter whatsoever on your rally car winking smiley John Lane has a flathood front end and a nonflathood on his car.

Some pictars (and yes I'm a Volvo perv)



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 01:47PM
It didn't like the non flathood picture because it was .jpeg not .jpg :|

Here's some more.. I think there's 3 different 240 hoods.. not sure though, I'm not that big of a volvo perv.





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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 03:38PM
Yeah, I don't understand the discussion of "flathoods vs round eyes" either. It's not like we buy these cars to be impressin' the women folk. They all have the same good stuff under the sheet metal. What about an 89-91 non-abs four door? Install turbo 740 motor with stock oil sprayers? Could be fun. Certainly easy to find.



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 04:07PM
AnthonyLatham Wrote:
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> Yeah, I don't understand the discussion of
> "flathoods vs round eyes" either. It's not like
> we buy these cars to be impressin' the women folk.
> They all have the same good stuff under the sheet
> metal. What about an 89-91 non-abs four door?
> Install turbo 740 motor with stock oil sprayers?
> Could be fun. Certainly easy to find.
>
> Who would JVL ban?


Oh Tony lookie here Seattle craigslist


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This weekend only Volvo 240 Turbo 2-door sedan for sale. 184K miles, sunroof, standard transmission. All leather tan interior, some wear on front seats. New timing belt at 181k. Email me with your name and phone number and I will call you back.






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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 05:48PM
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> sunroof

yuk smiling smiley

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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 06:29PM
john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> Zagato78 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well,
> >
> > All this talk about Volvo's has made me
> seriously
> > look into a 242 for a rally car. I've found
> one,
> > 83 242 Flathood, turbo'd and intercooled.
> Very
> > nice shape, no rust and alot of the little
> bits
> > have been tended to already.
> >
> > Before I actually purchase it, any concerns
> with
> > this model? I did the forum search and did
> not
> > find anything addressing this model
> specifically.
> > Figure I'll draw from the collective well
> before
> > spending cash... this time!
> >
>
> Hey Dan go for it.
> That is a "K-Jet" or "CIS" injection system.
> Nothing wrong, just wants clean fuel with no water
> if its going to or has sat for long periods.
> It should have IIRC the most desirable of all the
> Volvo motors the B23.
> It's most desirable because its 2300 and has a
> forged steel crank that cannot be hurt even in
> 500+ bhp motors so if you use you brain and don't
> go crazy, it'll make all the power you can use and
> have a huge margin of safety.
>
> How much?
> What color?
>
> I had heard you were thinking of a 131, what's the
> que paso on that?
>
> Did anybody decide to get George Beckermans car
> and goodies?
>
>
>
> > Dan
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> John Vanlandingham
> Sleezattle, WA, USA
>
> Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
>
> www.jvab.f4.ca


Well,

I need to borrow a tow rig to go get it, but yeah, George e-mailed me that he was sendings pics (nice Volvo porn by the way, gets me motivated LOL!!) He stated work got in the way of life. Something about a 244DL and a GL for a good price. I am gonna ask the guy I crew for his IT7 RX-7 as he drives a Subarat for his daily driver and keeps the Expidition for hauling his race car around.


Hey Dan, give me a call.



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 09:52PM
All that is aft of the rear wheels is unneeded anyway!!



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 29, 2008 09:58PM
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> All that is aft of the rear wheels is unneeded
> anyway!!
>
> JohnLane
>
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No doubt. Impressive damage eh? Keep soldiering on!



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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
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> Yeah, I don't understand the discussion of
> "flathoods vs round eyes" either. It's not like
> we buy these cars to be impressin' the women folk.

I am. I just haven't found the right woman apparantly. Guess I should be looking overseas.






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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 30, 2008 09:29AM
We've ceratinly no lack of Volvo 240's here on the left coast.

They are presented free for the taking with regularity; often in running-driving condition and without the horrors of the tinworm as the parts East of us see so much of.





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Re: Found a Volvo 242 Flathood
March 30, 2008 12:18PM
My "Flathood":

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> Member of Swedish "Fart Förening"

How much work was that to do? Did you use a 140 hood?

I remember when I first saw your stuff back in 1999 I was just a wee wiper snapper then



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