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Scott Manley
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Re: Painting a car
June 26, 2006 02:24PM
NoCoast Wrote:
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> It sounds like to much work to me. Paint, sand,
> paint, sand, for eternity. I'll just stick to
> spray paint for now.
>
> Grant Hughes
> www.nocoastmotorsports.net
> Denver, CO

Grant- To get a good finish, you have to paint, sand, paint, sand, polish, etc. no matter if you roll or spray, it's the same for both.

Mustafa- If you read through some of the post, someone there links to the Rustoleum website where is shows that the stuff they're using is "Rustoleum" marketed under a different name for the Canuckistanian market.




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I'd be willing to try it sometime...
June 26, 2006 03:59PM
Worst thing that could happen is it doesn't work out and you're out a few bucks.



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Re: I'd be willing to try it sometime...
June 26, 2006 05:05PM
Hey Booys,
The reason I wanted to fersure spray all the shit I sprayed with real automotive pain is mainly for the added hardener which can't be in spray cans cause of shelf life issues.
paint the undersides, insides, AFTER BRUSHING ON PAINT WHERE IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH WITHJ SPRAY and the engine compartments and wheel housing with good shit, spray it on WET and it should be good.
The rest, Maaco.



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Re: I'd be willing to try it sometime...
June 27, 2006 12:27AM
john vanlandingham Wrote:
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> Hey Booys,
> The reason I wanted to fersure spray all the shit
> I sprayed with real automotive pain is mainly for
> the added hardener which can't be in spray cans
> cause of shelf life issues.

'xcept at least the Yurrupeean alternative Hammerite does turn REAL hard. Just takes longer. But compared to spray bombs - that may a different story.

The other thing is that spraying in ones own garage takes a lot of covering up just about everything to avoid getting overspray on it. I've tried it - twice - and it's a nightmare in my oppinion.



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Re: Painting a car
June 27, 2006 11:13AM
If you read through the post on moparts.com, you see where its mentioned to thin the paint with mineral spirits, this helps get the consistancy you need and it also flashes the paint. He describes it as being ready to sand and recoat the next day. Rustoleum gets quite hard. I just used it to repaint a wheelbarrow. It holds up really well. Hammerite is about the same thing. I have seen it before.



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Re: Painting a car
June 27, 2006 11:45AM
I decided to try the Rustoleum roller method. I hate the prepping deal, I hate sanding but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do. It will have to wait till after the World Cup though. I have my priorities.



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Re: Painting a car
June 27, 2006 12:55PM
sagsert Wrote:
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> I decided to try the Rustoleum roller method. I
> hate the prepping deal, I hate sanding but a man's
> gotta do what a man's gotta do. It will have to
> wait till after the World Cup though. I have my
> priorities.
>
Let me know and I'll be happy to come over and lend a hand. You help me make my Gaylant run and I'll help you (not that I think you *need* it) look pretty.

Deal?






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Re: Painting a car
June 28, 2006 01:31AM
Deal indeed.



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Re: Painting a car
June 28, 2006 02:39AM
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> Deal indeed.

Word. Now, did you want neaon green flames or a mural of two lesbos slaying a dragon on the hood? (snicker)






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Re: Painting a car
June 28, 2006 08:39AM
Let's go with the two lesbos theme. Can we do two lesbos slaying Mike Hurts?



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Re: Painting a car
June 28, 2006 12:34PM
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> Let's go with the two lesbos theme. Can we do two
> lesbos slaying Mike Hurts?

I don't know who this Mike Hurts guy is, but I'll see what I can do.





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Re: Painting a car
June 29, 2006 11:12AM
DR1665 Wrote:
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> sagsert Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Let's go with the two lesbos theme. Can we do
> two
> > lesbos slaying Mike Hurts?
>
> I don't know who this Mike Hurts guy is, but I'll
> see what I can do.
>
>
>
> Brian DR1665 | Phoenix, AZ
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>


Mike Hurst, tech director for Rally America. Doesn't make the rules, just inforces them. So Mustafa is mad at Mike for what the rules say.




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Re: Painting a car
June 29, 2006 12:34PM
Richard Miller Wrote:
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> Mike Hurst, tech director for Rally America.
> Doesn't make the rules, just inforces them. So
> Mustafa is mad at Mike for what the rules say.

I see. Not sure what to say. I don't know anyone in the rally community well enough to not at least give them benefit of the doubt, but I feel a bit more comfortable on this site than (cough) that other one*, so I'll let Mustafa do the painting on this guy while I stick to the girlies. winking smiley


*This place is more my style. Yank the motor, crack a beer, speak your mind. Word.




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Re: Painting a car
June 29, 2006 12:34PM
So your saying he has no input into rules/rule changes? I highly doubt that. My observations is that he is directly involved on much of the input regarding technical rule changes and interpretations from sources such as the SFI, FIA, and others.

For historical reference for why some people dislike him, search Mike Hurst here, or Fuel Cell Bulkhead at Specialstage.com. It's a highly disputed interpretation of FIA rules that ended in implementation in Rally America rules. And also led to quite a few competitors choosing to not comply and only to compete in NASA sanctioned events.

I can't say I dislike him, but I tend to not agree with him on some subjects, much as I tend to not agree with many people in oafishal positions on some subjects. I've spoken with him at quite a few rallies though and he's overseen tech on cars I've helped build and competed in a few times too.



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Re: Painting a car
June 29, 2006 02:23PM
Grant, Mike indeed does have some input into the rules. And he is the first interpreter of them. But he does not work in a vacuum or without supervision. If any one really thought Mike was wrong, you can appeal to JB and then to Doug. Can't go higher than Doug as he owns the company. And JB and Doug tend to trust Mike more than Mustafa whether that is good or bad. Mustafa of course thinks he knows best. And I of course know that every one except me is full of it. smiling smiley
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