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RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution

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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 27, 2011 10:23AM
Good project thats for sure. Now wouldnt that be an awesome idea to do in a honda, with the S2000 or K24 engine grinning smiley
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 27, 2011 11:13AM
What sort of weight balance are you thinking you'll end up with?
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 27, 2011 01:24PM
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What sort of weight balance are you thinking you'll end up with?

Well we just loaded into his truck the Duratec motor i had in the van waiting to be victim. Last night i was saying its time to clamber into the engine compartment with a bare block and the tape measure.
There's is no point in making some morpho-junk thing like that junk V8 shit with the entire motor in front of the spindle---they're already making vile junk, how much of a market is there for shit?

Way I was thinking is we have to look at the rwd pick up derived sump and see where that would end up in relationship to the OEM Fucus crossmember and rack. If we must do sheetmetal work for the bellhousing anyway, what's a bit more sheetmetal to get the motor back to at least say centered between cylinders 2 and 3?

Seems a worthwhile target.
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 27, 2011 02:31PM
yes theres no reason we cant get to 50 50 with two people in the car

Honda kicks ass I know! and I thought of it the only reason I did not want to use a honda
is they already have the workings to be the best front wheel drive rally cars.
They have all the awesome parts in transverse box that we are trying to get in the focus with
rear wheel drive.

and theres millions theres about 5.000,000 cars in the us alone that can be a victim to this rwd kit
I want the biggest market out there that I can control.
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 27, 2011 03:47PM
This is what I picked up for $150 It's a 2006 exploder the 02 to 05 have only one front
mount, but should work with out any issue and the mounts are close enough if someone
wants a supra diff just ask.

What I see strange was theres not a lot of adjustment but it looks like the frame has some other
settings for the trailing arm. Must be just for other trim packages, but makes me think for the
first frames put a lot of holes for adjustment theres seems to enough room.







This is the focus, if you look for a wile all the arms correlate with the explorers arms

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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 27, 2011 03:54PM
Am I right in seeing that the upper arm could probably be made to be adjustable for camber relatively easily? How much adjustability is there in the rear Exploder stuff?
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 27, 2011 04:26PM
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Am I right in seeing that the upper arm could probably be made to be adjustable for camber
relatively easily? How much adjustability is there in the rear Exploder stuff?

almost nothing but yes I will be drawing an frame idea and links they will all be adjustable
the focus uses a link thats about a 90 and gos around the frame rail so that will be something I
will need to think about I want the two front links the same length and reach as far in as
they can but still miss the frame rail. That upper link will be hard bushing mount to the
frame do the bend at the end and then a trailing adjuster on one end.
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 28, 2011 12:47AM
i like it.

nothing like reinventing the wheel. smiling smiley



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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 28, 2011 09:44AM
The best reason not to use a Honda; Honda's are good cars and thus hold their value too well. Besides are we on the 3rd body style since 2000 vs the Focus that is on the same body style? A cheap Honda will look old.

It is always best to start with the cheapest box that will do the job, $1000's saved for other bits.
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 28, 2011 10:32AM
US maybe had around 2 million sold in all the years combined. Best year for sales was 2000. In 2009 Ford lost about 1 billion on the Focus..somehow..so they say.

One body change in '05 and a platform change around 07. Supposedly set for death in 2012 or so.

The other kit is around $5500 with out the drivetrain, including suspension bits, not badly priced in the scheme of things.

So from a business standpoint I don't see this making you rich William. Many reasons from the actual popuarity of the car amoung the tuner crowd (or lack of) to insurance issues and even the availability of used Mustangs.

However we all have dreams that sometimes actually get pursued so you get an attaboy for that and I hope it pans out.
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 28, 2011 10:36AM
New Ford Focus set to be released in 2012, fashioned after the UK Ford Focus.

http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/2012/?searchid=444987|32151951|210469273
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 28, 2011 11:02AM
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US maybe had around 2 million sold in all the years combined. Best year for sales was 2000. In 2009 Ford lost about 1 billion on the Focus..somehow..so they say.

One body change in '05 and a platform change around 07. Supposedly set for death in 2012 or so.

The other kit is around $5500 with out the drivetrain, including suspension bits, not badly priced in the scheme of things.

So from a business standpoint I don't see this making you rich William. Many reasons from the actual popuarity of the car amoung the tuner crowd (or lack of) to insurance issues and even the availability of used Mustangs.

However we all have dreams that sometimes actually get pursued so you get an attaboy for that and I hope it pans out.

thats one side of it We are going to be doing the mazda 3 at the same time.
not to mention making a frame for for car guy that want cheap irs, and
I want to make brake and other suspension options for the other cars as
well as the focus. theres 3 car companies on the same suspension.



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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 28, 2011 04:06PM
12" of travel in the rear sounds exciting and I would like to see what kind of travel numbers you could get from the front. The whole idea of a focus like this is exciting!
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 28, 2011 07:11PM
The front suspension will be limited by the small pinch radius at the top
of the knuckle. But I think with some work and no front cv and a bumped up top
ball joint we can get about 10 inches of travel.
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Re: RSF2000 Rally Sport Focus! RWD Revolution
January 30, 2011 08:30PM
hear is a look at the explorer diff with the supra diff
both of these are open diffs and the supra weighs 79lbs
and the explorer is 69lbs not a big deal to me just interesting.
With out the ears in the back of the explorer diff it would barley
have a larger foot print than the supra or most anything that
is as big and nasty as these two.





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