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Rallymech Robert Gobright Elite Moderator Location: White Center Seattle Join Date: 04/27/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 1,292 Rally Car: 91 VW GTI 8V |
Peter,
In the greater scheme of things the steel plenum really isn't a big issue. I don't think that William has aluminum welding capability yet. William, If you need some TIG work done let me know. Robert. "You are way too normal to be on Rally Anarchy." Eddie Fiorelli. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
I need some tig work. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
SteelSolutions William Timmins Elite Moderator Location: Redmond WA Join Date: 02/26/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 648 Rally Car: 3 xr4ti/74 capri/02 bug eye |
what dose the the trumpets lifted off the base help and how? I would like to
explane it on the blog. The hole is 3 inch only inlet im only doing all this because I want to run the stock maff. At a latter date use the uk computer which is run on a map im just worried theres another can of worms in that. I did think about it and dident. you lurn some how. What would having the volume match the motor help on this set up? its itb on a maff there really shouldent be any plentom just a big foam dome. I welded on the stock idel air last night! TSSFAB.US No HYPE just parts!!!! And check us out on Facebook!!! |
Tim Taylor Tim Taylor Professional Moderator Location: Oakland, CA Join Date: 02/02/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 622 Rally Car: Mazda 323 GTX |
I understand that you are just experimenting to see whay you can make. I'll also put down money right now that you will make more power with four cone filters. There is heavy CFD design analysis in even the lowliest OEM manifold and I can count a couple of pro teams that have lost power by making their own manifold.
Also fair warning the Honda throttle body set you picked has a TPS that is not replaceable if it fails. Honda only sells them with complete throttle body sets for big $. Where are you putting the injectors? The Honda stuff you picked uses dual plane injectors so the ones in the throttle body are half size because there is another set in the top of the air box to make up the difference. |
SteelSolutions William Timmins Elite Moderator Location: Redmond WA Join Date: 02/26/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 648 Rally Car: 3 xr4ti/74 capri/02 bug eye |
I bet money it will run like shit with no maff that's the only reason im making a
plentom I know what it needs just im trying too compensate and use a full stock harness or for now. Like I said in the last I wish I could do a big foam ITB cover. The TPS why dose it matter? The whole thing was 89 bucks? worst case make it adapt to stock ford tps. Wrx injectors in stock location? the duratec has injectors in The head, so im going to plug up the minis just plum thew the honda ideology air bypass. There is 4 screws air mix or something do those need to be on vacuum, If not im golden TSSFAB.US No HYPE just parts!!!! And check us out on Facebook!!! Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2012 12:52AM by SteelSolutions. |
I think Tim was asking how you are going to do the injectors. Since, the CBR1000 uses 8 injectors. Four in the throttle bodies for lower rpm/low load and then it kicks in the other 4 which are up stream and spray into the TBs (from the plenum) under high load. The problem with running the stock 4 injectors in the Tb is that they might be too small. With a really quick ratio comparison of the CBR and the Ford: CBR 1.0L, probably uses the TB injectors up to 12000 RPM (all numbers from my butt). Assuming 100% volumetric efficiency, you can supply fuel for 6000L of air (1.0L * 12000RPM *1/2) Let's say the Ford is 2.0L. That means you can only supply fuel to 6000RPM with the stock injectors. So, I would look into possible adapting bigger fuel injectors into the TBs. Just my thoughts. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2012 12:56AM by Robert Culbertson. |
Dazed_Driver Banned Senior Moderator Location: John and Skyes Magic Love liar Join Date: 08/24/2007 Posts: 2,154 |
William, your work is good, but man... use a spell checker and try to proof read your posts. It takes away from your credibility. Especially if you want to sell a kit or build these for other people. You spelled "learn" "lurn"
Chrome has one built in... Welcome to the cult of JVL drink the koolaid or be banned. |
Tim Taylor Tim Taylor Professional Moderator Location: Oakland, CA Join Date: 02/02/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 622 Rally Car: Mazda 323 GTX |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Duratec injector bungs are IN THE HEAD. He can run with injectors IN THE HEAD. Enough with the volumetric efficiency and blah blah ing about too small. He can stick any damn injector he wants---big as he wants since bore wash down is so important that everybody has to use 1000cc/min---and he can put them IN THE HEAD and plug the holes like he said right there------> <------------------- Yep right there, i was pretty sure he said it. See the bungs in this ancient photo from 8 years ago? John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
So does Firefox. People should use it. You are young enough not to be afraid of computers. John though, that's another story. I'm not sure if JVL can't actually spell or if that's actually the way he talks and his brain thinks...? |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Junior Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
There is a vast difference between TYPOs and playing with spellings for fun---the written equivalents of dialects and accents...and in essentially throw-away type communication like 95% of forum based chatter, who gives a flying fuck? I can spell, and speak, just fine and as you know, with near certainly in a few more languages effectively that most here... I can do a few things really well because I care about them. I do not care to be admired as a fucking typist. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |