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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
That's why we're doing it. Right now there are plenty of 240 Volvos and Xrattiers where WE are, but there's 8,000,000 spread all over the country. 8 fawkin million. The question which we don't know---and which bears on the whole viability of the idea is how many people really would cough up for a kit to do it themselves? Many are consumeroids, and the constantly repeated mantra BUY BUY BUY BUY your complete car because "you'll be out there sooner" (your need for every whim to be instantly satisfied) is powerful. We'll see. |
SteelSolutions William Timmins Infallible Moderator Location: Redmond WA Join Date: 02/26/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 648 Rally Car: 3 xr4ti/74 capri/02 bug eye |
the only bolt on hub that you talk of is on the newer jeep grand Cherokee and there not too cheap. the front on the ford that is 3 bolt is 27 spline and the rear is 29. |
I think if you get one together and prove that it's a viable platform, you won't have a lot of trouble selling kits. Especially if you offer the entire thing as a kit, ie buy parts A-F bolt / weld and you're good to go. I think the major hangups with the Volvo and the Merkurs are the lack of sex appeal and the thought that there is some mysterious modification that needs to be done. I'm not trying to say the Focus is sexy, but it seems that Volvos just don't do it for a lot of red blooded americans |
NoCoast Grant Hughes Mod Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
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SteelSolutions William Timmins Infallible Moderator Location: Redmond WA Join Date: 02/26/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 648 Rally Car: 3 xr4ti/74 capri/02 bug eye |
The car is really growing on me. I don't know how much red blooded flag wavers really matter look at the subaru there fast and fun out of the box with out the super high end price tag. If we can show that it dose cost money for quality and say its 16000 to get you an sti but what would 16000 get you with a focus? full swap car full suspension turbo set up tanny the works you could have a full on top of the line rwd car and spares for 16000. So if your driving a subaru look at your budget and you could probably have the best gp2 or 5 car on the seen for half what your in to your car now? need some converts that want to have a car there not afraid to beat in to the ground and can afford two prepped shells. I don't want people to think this is some idea OOO super cheap we all know it cost to play but compared to other formulas this is going to be a very good bang for the buck and for a lot of people I think the car would test there limits. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
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SteelSolutions William Timmins Infallible Moderator Location: Redmond WA Join Date: 02/26/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 648 Rally Car: 3 xr4ti/74 capri/02 bug eye |
so waiting for some cash for a 2005 focus
I was looking at e-bay there are freekin hundreds of duratecs for under 1000 and some under 500 shipped!!!! hundreds of motors on car-part for cheap its unreal you could have 2 spares rebuild one and keep one with cams and that's all for emergency. |
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NoCoast Grant Hughes Mod Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
I've seen a few on there, but not hundreds. Lots of the V6 engines.
I'm sure you've seen these guys. Retro Ford (Link removed) There's some cool stuff on their site. I get tempted all the time to find an Escape 2.3 Duratec and put Weber's on it with my T5 behind and a Supra diff and have a heavy but easy, simple, and realiable Group 2 car. Edit: I removed the link as Mark said Firefox blocked it saying it was a malicous site and I had some gnarly viral attack yesterday that faked a hard drive failure and took a few hours to clear off. It might have been from somewhere else, but just in case... Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2011 11:43AM by NoCoast. |
Pete Pete Remner Godlike Moderator Location: Cleveland, Ohio Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 2,022 |
No kidding? I did some car-part hunting a little while back and I couldn't find Duratecs for cheap at all. What cars were you looking for? I was looking for '02-up Rangers/B2300s because those were already RWD so less screwing around. |
SteelSolutions William Timmins Infallible Moderator Location: Redmond WA Join Date: 02/26/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 648 Rally Car: 3 xr4ti/74 capri/02 bug eye |
there are about 2000 ranger 2.3s right now you have to check each year they say there not compatible some times between years look all the way in to 08 they don't always change that much in price. theres freekin thousands of 05 newer foci, 55 pages of them!!!!!!!!!! I would like to facilitate steel cranks for the 2.0 for around $500 so the doors would fly open for all the 2.0s out there for the pickings |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Super Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
[Homer simpson voice on] Hmmmmmmm steeeel cranks hmmmmmmmmmmm must have steel cranks, [/Homer Simpson voice off] Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2011 10:17PM by john vanlandingham. |
heymagic Banned Mod Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
Car-part doesn't seem to work for Pete....
They only show an exact change. If a sensor is wrong CP doesn't interchange. Lots of Foci 2.0s as well as 2.2 Ecoteks on there. Inexpensive cars that sold in huge volumes and are easily totaled. Since the engines are so durable and demand low the price is pretty cheap. Do you think your kit could be retroed into an older Escort just for the heck of it? |
NoCoast Grant Hughes Mod Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
Everytime I look at the possiblity of spending money on the Merkur engine I start thinking about just getting a Duratec, Weber carbs, and just go have fun in Group 2 with it. |