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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 11:08AM
Any damn ECU will allow you to blow up your engine if you don't know what you're doing... Hasn't got much to do with the ECU as such.
If you're an idiot and want to tune for yourself, then you're likely to damage things regardless of what it says on the lid of the box.

But it all boils down to what one wants to do with ECU. Do you want to be able to most stuff, if not everything, yourself, then MS is absolutely the easiest. If only because of the vast amount of info available.

If you want to turn it over to a tuner, then obviously you need to agree with him on the ECU. Buying cheap here, can easily be expensive if the tuner is going to bill you for research, learning while doing, etc.



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 11:22AM
I've been running a Haltech e6k I bought for cheap and am gonna replace it with an Adaptronic cuz WBO2 autotune. That and it's just sitting here on the shelf so I might as well. You can get an older haltech (like maybe mine!) or something similar for less than MS and it'll be bombproof.



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 11:25AM
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I've been running a Haltech e6k I bought for cheap....

You can get an older haltech (like maybe mine!) or something similar for less than MS and it'll be bombproof.

Do tell. I need something for this Volvo that is ready.
N.a. high comp 2350cc 16v on 48 ITBs

What are you thinking "less than MS"?? How much......????????

Do you have the "Programming Disc"?



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 11:46AM
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If you want to turn it over to a tuner, then obviously you need to agree with him on the ECU. Buying cheap here, can easily be expensive if the tuner is going to bill you for research, learning while doing, etc.

FWIW, a good tuner, was probably the best investment I ever made on my car.



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 12:00PM
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If you want to turn it over to a tuner, then obviously you need to agree with him on the ECU. Buying cheap here, can easily be expensive if the tuner is going to bill you for research, learning while doing, etc.

FWIW, a good tuner, was probably the best investment I ever made on my car.

And I'll give that another endorsement as the best advice in this thread. I just traded my old GTX to Neel at Apex Speed Technology for a Pectel SQ6 and professional tuning of the new engine. Not blowing up an expensive new engine or taking weeks to get it tuned properly is well worth the money to me. I spent weeks back in about 1996 trying to get an Electromotive TEC-II working properly. Just an infuriating process start to finish...turns out those ECUs just didn't have full control of the injectors and could not be made to idle by pro tuners. I have enough aggrivation in my life without that crap.

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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 12:40PM
How bout 4 bills out the door with flyinglead harness, negotiable maybe. New and updated programming stuff is on the intarwebz but I have suff here that seems to work.



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 12:48PM
i would certainly try to acquire it if JVL doesn't!



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 01:07PM
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How bout 4 bills out the door with flyinglead harness, negotiable maybe. New and updated programming stuff is on the intarwebz but I have suff here that seems to work.


I like the negotiable maybe..
Like can we negotiate you dropping it by?
I almost never get out of here (except UPS)....



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 01:07PM
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i would certainly try to acquire it if JVL doesn't!

Go away!!!!

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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 04:45PM
I might be interested in giving up my haltech. It's fuel only though
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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 05:03PM
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I might be interested in giving up my haltech. It's fuel only though

I need ignition too for this thing to run. And run right.

Where's that Jay!!????



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 05:30PM
I could be talked into running it down there. Not this week though. Next week is easier and that even gives me time to take it outta the car and get me off my ass installing the new one...



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 06:47PM
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I could be talked into running it down there. Not this week though. Next week is easier and that even gives me time to take it outta the car and get me off my ass installing the new one...

Sounds good. I'm here most all day long if beating the traffic is important..
Just let me know.
And thanks



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 08:33PM
SpitfireEFI - My Mega guys

My buddies at SpitfireEFI talked me out of the new hot MSv3 they know what they are talking about and have done miatas and turbo mazdas http://spitfireefi.com/projects.shtml

the ecu is now attached with a bungie cord.
I like it because I can tune it using Linux on my OLPC!



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Re: Standalone ECUs?
January 24, 2012 08:35PM
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which MS?

it was a diypnp unit running ms2 3.x.x and MAF(it's based on a microsquirt though). It's pretty up to date, thought about putting it back in once I do another engine upgrade since there has been a semi recent update in ms2 MAF support. I just never had the time or place to tune and play so I went with an eeprom expansion on the subie obd1 board.



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