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John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 29, 2012 01:13AM
I spent so much damn time figuring out how to get air in my engine, now what about the fuel???

Inyektor size, FPRs.......confusing adjustable fpr's, stainless this, walbro that.

TURBOBITCHERS DON"T KNOW YET!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!! You'd think, with all those BITCHING'n'whining nerdzzz, one of 'em would have built a proper fueling system.

So what'd Group-A cars do for 370whp...or 330...or anywhere in between?

Is my stock K-jetz pumpzzzzzz gonna doiet?

I stumbled upon this....



I can only asssssuuuummmmeeee, that information is specific to a 560 series engine.....the big, bad V8....but if their fuel dizzy's were good enough for Volvo Group-A, were their fuel pumps???

I see those cars in the yards all the time...can't help but think that I"m walking past a lotta good fuel pumps...

4-5 LITRES PRE MINUTE.....is that anything like 240-300 Litres per HOUR?????????????

Oh, and whilst we're on the subject......how about the accumulators?????? Sounds worth-while.....why did Volvo stop using these with LH???????????

Ohhhhh, it's probably cuzzzzz it was when they went to LH, which is less sensitive, than a carburetor or K-Jet, to fuel pressure inconsistencies......but wait, this is our FUEL we're talking about here, damnit!! Why did they stop???????



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 29, 2012 02:11AM
umm....yes.

Bosch 044. [/day]



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 02:45AM
The Benz's used the 044?????

I pulled one off some 560 SEC today, but GOOGLE told me it was 110 LPH....big sucker tho!



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 03:01AM
the 044 i was looking at buying from Napa said 200lph, so maybe there is an additional number somewhere?



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 03:18AM
The 044 is part of their aftermarket/performance series.

I'm referring to those that are OEM pumps on European Cars.

I think the PN# on the Benz was 0 580 254 942



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 07:53AM
Myles Ford used two pumps marked right in the drawing "150 l/hr"..

But then again compared to a lotta computer guys, software heroes moderators, what da fawk does Ford motorsport know..
You need 4 255 l/hr Wals, bro.



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 08:44AM
it was one pump with a spare correct?



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January 30, 2012 09:29AM
Whhhhhh r u kawwwinnnnnnnn a Virgin? Sex Gawwwd!!!

I keepzzz it realzz, n speak da troooffs!!!

Fordz used two 150LPH's in line, in tank, combo???/\

DETAILZZZZZ MAN, FAWWWWWWWWWWKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So wouldia reckon, you know, pimple squeezinnnn n computer geekin aside, a LH intank pump and a "STOCK" K-jet in line pump will be all the fuellin I'll need????

Just like sayin, don't fix it if it ain't broken.....how about don't overthink it if it's already fine!



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 09:38AM
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Whhhhhh r u kawwwinnnnnnnn a Virgin? Sex Gawwwd!!!

I keepzzz it realzz, n speak da troooffs!!!

Fordz used two 150LPH's in line, in tank, combo???/\

DETAILZZZZZ MAN, FAWWWWWWWWWWKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So wouldia reckon, you know, pimple squeezinnnn n computer geekin aside, a LH intank pump and a "STOCK" K-jet in line pump will be all the fuellin I'll need????

Just like sayin, don't fix it if it ain't broken.....how about don't overthink it if it's already fine!

No a stock lift pump and something gen-u-whine min 150 l/hr

Pumps and injectors are overblown like turbos.
Bigger is ALWAYS better.
Look for the 14mm inlet. That's the clue..



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 09:41AM
So, where in a sea of derlyct cars would one find such a pump?????



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So, where in a sea of derlyct cars would one find such a pump?????

Some older Audi turbos, Ford Cosworths..
Easy

There was a link to specs on Bosch pumps and the charts i see call out the inlet size..14mm man.



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 09:54AM
Part numbers......what about the numbers?????



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 10:46AM
Eh... I'd grab the pumps off a non turbo car. Not sure about the 10v turbos, but the 10v NA cars had fuel pumps with a bit more oomph than the 20vturbo cars.

69436 is the bosch part number *I believe.

Found in the 80 and 90 quattros not sure about the 5k's

Someone ran one to 475 whp on a 2.2ltr 20v before he noticed dropoff in pressure. My daily car is running 18 psi on 300cc injectors with no fuel supply issues



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running 18 psi on 300lb hr injectors with no fuel supply issues
300 lb/hr? 3000cc/minute?



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 11:07AM
errrr yeah. whatever winking smiley busy at work. Point was grabe teh NA fuel pump. Should be the same as the A4's IIRC



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 31, 2012 02:17AM
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Eh... I'd grab the pumps off a non turbo car. Not sure about the 10v turbos, but the 10v NA cars had fuel pumps with a bit more oomph than the 20vturbo cars.

69436 is the bosch part number *I believe.

Found in the 80 and 90 quattros not sure about the 5k's

Someone ran one to 475 whp on a 2.2ltr 20v before he noticed dropoff in pressure. My daily car is running 18 psi on 300cc injectors with no fuel supply issues

Gawwwd damn, I knew I shouldda checked da mobile interwebzzzzzzzzzz moar today....

Stuck my head under two Audi 5k's and some crazy kinda quattro from the early 90's....which were all K-yetzzzzzzz.....no turbos tho.


Damn, if there's a JY pump that'll work.....

Well, that'd just be the biznesssssssss



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 31, 2012 08:13AM
Audi called it CIS not K-jet, but same idea. and those 5k's may or may not share the same pump. I personally have very little experience with 5k's other than stealing the turbo motors.
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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 31, 2012 10:32AM
BTW, pump should be under the car on the drivers side roughly under the rear seat. Sits right next to a big bosch fuel filter. Grab two pumps if they have them, for the most part they either work or they dont.

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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
February 01, 2012 12:58AM
yo so ur not gonna believzzzzzzzzzzz diss...

I was like at the yarrrd n saaw me a Krazeeeeeee fuel inyektion pump setup outta a Benz...

I dunno what benz, cuz I found it, hiddin in a ferocious British Feline, go figure!!

It was two pumps, with the prettiest hard lines in the world.....man those Germans do go All OUt!!!

Anyways, the last three numbers in the Bosch PN# was 950.....looks like a 130LPH pump....

Was the 044 spec'd as OEM on any cars???????????



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
February 01, 2012 07:48AM
14mm inlet, mang howz many times I gotta sayz zit?



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Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
February 01, 2012 11:01AM
mo fukka, what u say bout zitzzzz....

i'm a lil wayzzz from puberty, ya kno!

14mm on the hardware???? Like it takes a 14mm box wrench to get the fawwwkin banjo out????


Or the hose is 14mm......nahhhh, that can't be right.....

But those LPH gotsta mean sumptin, no?



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February 01, 2012 11:33AM
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mo fukka, what u say bout zitzzzz....

i'm a lil wayzzz from puberty, ya kno!

14mm on the hardware???? Like it takes a 14mm box wrench to get the fawwwkin banjo out????


Or the hose is 14mm......nahhhh, that can't be right.....

But those LPH gotsta mean sumptin, no?

14mm threads as in m14 X 1.5 OR IF ITS HOSE, 14 on the connection..

LPH means LPH, the hint is when they know its a pump that'll be demanding volume in heaps, better make the connection large enough



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