Construction Zone
Don\
Welcome! Log In Register

Advanced

John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????

Posted by Mylesofsmyles 
Mylesofsmyles
Myles Saffian
Super Moderator
Location: Marin County, CA
Join Date: 03/21/2011
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 224

Rally Car:
'79 Volvo 242 DL


John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 29, 2012 01:13AM
I spent so much damn time figuring out how to get air in my engine, now what about the fuel???

Inyektor size, FPRs.......confusing adjustable fpr's, stainless this, walbro that.

TURBOBITCHERS DON"T KNOW YET!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!! You'd think, with all those BITCHING'n'whining nerdzzz, one of 'em would have built a proper fueling system.

So what'd Group-A cars do for 370whp...or 330...or anywhere in between?

Is my stock K-jetz pumpzzzzzz gonna doiet?

I stumbled upon this....



I can only asssssuuuummmmeeee, that information is specific to a 560 series engine.....the big, bad V8....but if their fuel dizzy's were good enough for Volvo Group-A, were their fuel pumps???

I see those cars in the yards all the time...can't help but think that I"m walking past a lotta good fuel pumps...

4-5 LITRES PRE MINUTE.....is that anything like 240-300 Litres per HOUR?????????????

Oh, and whilst we're on the subject......how about the accumulators?????? Sounds worth-while.....why did Volvo stop using these with LH???????????

Ohhhhh, it's probably cuzzzzz it was when they went to LH, which is less sensitive, than a carburetor or K-Jet, to fuel pressure inconsistencies......but wait, this is our FUEL we're talking about here, damnit!! Why did they stop???????



Send Me a PM for Junk Yard Special Orders

http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/pm.php?7,page=send,to_id=11760
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Gravity Fed
Alex Staidle
Ultra Moderator
Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp
Join Date: 08/21/2009
Posts: 1,576

Rally Car:
1978 Mazda Rx7



Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 29, 2012 02:11AM
umm....yes.

Bosch 044. [/day]



Respecognize!
Http://www.facebook.com/2WDriveRally
First Rally: 2010 First RallyX: 2004 (a bunch)
Driver (0), Co-Driver (4)
Organizer (3), Volunteer (3)
Cars Built (1.5), Engines Blown (2) Cages Built (0)
Last Updated, Oct 30, 2013
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Mylesofsmyles
Myles Saffian
Super Moderator
Location: Marin County, CA
Join Date: 03/21/2011
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 224

Rally Car:
'79 Volvo 242 DL


Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 02:45AM
The Benz's used the 044?????

I pulled one off some 560 SEC today, but GOOGLE told me it was 110 LPH....big sucker tho!



Send Me a PM for Junk Yard Special Orders

http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/pm.php?7,page=send,to_id=11760
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Gravity Fed
Alex Staidle
Ultra Moderator
Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp
Join Date: 08/21/2009
Posts: 1,576

Rally Car:
1978 Mazda Rx7



Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 03:01AM
the 044 i was looking at buying from Napa said 200lph, so maybe there is an additional number somewhere?



Respecognize!
Http://www.facebook.com/2WDriveRally
First Rally: 2010 First RallyX: 2004 (a bunch)
Driver (0), Co-Driver (4)
Organizer (3), Volunteer (3)
Cars Built (1.5), Engines Blown (2) Cages Built (0)
Last Updated, Oct 30, 2013
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Mylesofsmyles
Myles Saffian
Super Moderator
Location: Marin County, CA
Join Date: 03/21/2011
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 224

Rally Car:
'79 Volvo 242 DL


Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 03:18AM
The 044 is part of their aftermarket/performance series.

I'm referring to those that are OEM pumps on European Cars.

I think the PN# on the Benz was 0 580 254 942



Send Me a PM for Junk Yard Special Orders

http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/pm.php?7,page=send,to_id=11760
Please Login or Register to post a reply
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Mega Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Ancient
Posts: 13,406

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 07:43AM
Whaa! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! you rite leik a inger-ant virgin of JVL,
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Singed,
Bondage Toy
El Magnifico
El Supremo

El Culo



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Mega Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Ancient
Posts: 13,406

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 07:53AM
Myles Ford used two pumps marked right in the drawing "150 l/hr"..

But then again compared to a lotta computer guys, software heroes moderators, what da fawk does Ford motorsport know..
You need 4 255 l/hr Wals, bro.



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Gravity Fed
Alex Staidle
Ultra Moderator
Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp
Join Date: 08/21/2009
Posts: 1,576

Rally Car:
1978 Mazda Rx7



Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 08:44AM
it was one pump with a spare correct?



Respecognize!
Http://www.facebook.com/2WDriveRally
First Rally: 2010 First RallyX: 2004 (a bunch)
Driver (0), Co-Driver (4)
Organizer (3), Volunteer (3)
Cars Built (1.5), Engines Blown (2) Cages Built (0)
Last Updated, Oct 30, 2013
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Mylesofsmyles
Myles Saffian
Super Moderator
Location: Marin County, CA
Join Date: 03/21/2011
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 224

Rally Car:
'79 Volvo 242 DL


Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 09:29AM
Whhhhhh r u kawwwinnnnnnnn a Virgin? Sex Gawwwd!!!

I keepzzz it realzz, n speak da troooffs!!!

Fordz used two 150LPH's in line, in tank, combo???/\

DETAILZZZZZ MAN, FAWWWWWWWWWWKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So wouldia reckon, you know, pimple squeezinnnn n computer geekin aside, a LH intank pump and a "STOCK" K-jet in line pump will be all the fuellin I'll need????

Just like sayin, don't fix it if it ain't broken.....how about don't overthink it if it's already fine!



Send Me a PM for Junk Yard Special Orders

http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/pm.php?7,page=send,to_id=11760
Please Login or Register to post a reply
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Mega Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Ancient
Posts: 13,406

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 09:38AM
Quote
Mylesofsmyles
Whhhhhh r u kawwwinnnnnnnn a Virgin? Sex Gawwwd!!!

I keepzzz it realzz, n speak da troooffs!!!

Fordz used two 150LPH's in line, in tank, combo???/\

DETAILZZZZZ MAN, FAWWWWWWWWWWKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



So wouldia reckon, you know, pimple squeezinnnn n computer geekin aside, a LH intank pump and a "STOCK" K-jet in line pump will be all the fuellin I'll need????

Just like sayin, don't fix it if it ain't broken.....how about don't overthink it if it's already fine!

No a stock lift pump and something gen-u-whine min 150 l/hr

Pumps and injectors are overblown like turbos.
Bigger is ALWAYS better.
Look for the 14mm inlet. That's the clue..



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Mylesofsmyles
Myles Saffian
Super Moderator
Location: Marin County, CA
Join Date: 03/21/2011
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 224

Rally Car:
'79 Volvo 242 DL


Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 09:41AM
So, where in a sea of derlyct cars would one find such a pump?????



Send Me a PM for Junk Yard Special Orders

http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/pm.php?7,page=send,to_id=11760
Please Login or Register to post a reply
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Mega Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Ancient
Posts: 13,406

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 09:44AM
Quote
Mylesofsmyles
So, where in a sea of derlyct cars would one find such a pump?????

Some older Audi turbos, Ford Cosworths..
Easy

There was a link to specs on Bosch pumps and the charts i see call out the inlet size..14mm man.



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Mylesofsmyles
Myles Saffian
Super Moderator
Location: Marin County, CA
Join Date: 03/21/2011
Age: Party Animal
Posts: 224

Rally Car:
'79 Volvo 242 DL


Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 09:54AM
Part numbers......what about the numbers?????



Send Me a PM for Junk Yard Special Orders

http://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/pm.php?7,page=send,to_id=11760
Please Login or Register to post a reply
aj_johnson
A.J. Johnson
Junior Moderator
Location: Pendleton OR
Join Date: 01/07/2011
Age: Settling Down
Posts: 1,315

Rally Car:
88 Audi 80


Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 10:46AM
Eh... I'd grab the pumps off a non turbo car. Not sure about the 10v turbos, but the 10v NA cars had fuel pumps with a bit more oomph than the 20vturbo cars.

69436 is the bosch part number *I believe.

Found in the 80 and 90 quattros not sure about the 5k's

Someone ran one to 475 whp on a 2.2ltr 20v before he noticed dropoff in pressure. My daily car is running 18 psi on 300cc injectors with no fuel supply issues



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/30/2012 11:13AM by aj_johnson.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
john vanlandingham
John Vanlandingham
Mega Moderator
Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA
Join Date: 12/20/2005
Age: Ancient
Posts: 13,406

Rally Car:
Saab 96 V4



Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel??????
January 30, 2012 10:57AM
Quote
aj_johnson
running 18 psi on 300lb hr injectors with no fuel supply issues
300 lb/hr? 3000cc/minute?



John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle, WA, USA

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

www.rallyrace.net/jvab
CALL +1 206 431-9696
Remember! Pacific Standard Time
is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time.
Please Login or Register to post a reply
Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.

Click here to login