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Old School carbs or EFI?

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Old School carbs or EFI?
December 30, 2006 07:08PM
I had origionally planned to run EFI on my super bitchen 16v but I've stumbled on a super sweet dual webber carb setup for a good price

sooo I'm tempted to ditch converting from digi to motronic (oh yeah wiring is on a container from the other side of the pond now) and running carbs, but then I'd have that pesky emissions stuff to worry about

anyone ever gone crazy from planning too much on one of these builds?



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Re: Old School carbs or EFI?
December 31, 2006 10:21AM
Keep It Simple !!!!



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Re: Old School carbs or EFI?
December 31, 2006 12:27PM
ya didn't say what carbs and what size?
A mild 2,0 16 would putter round like a baby on 45s, a rally 2.0 16 should oughter have 48s.
Webers there jets for and knowledge of what to put in them right down stairs.

You could Megasquirt"n'spark it later.
The big thing is get some individual runners, carbs or ITB.



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Re: Old School carbs or EFI?
December 31, 2006 12:58PM
these would be 48mm so they should be plenty large enough (they are coming from a 16v race car so the jets should be close)

now how do I get around emissions..... run the jets so small to run it lean? or just register it out in the boonies



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Re: Old School carbs or EFI?
December 31, 2006 01:21PM
mack73 Wrote:
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> these would be 48mm so they should be plenty large
> enough (they are coming from a 16v race car so the
> jets should be close)
>
> now how do I get around emissions..... run the
> jets so small to run it lean? or just register it
> out in the boonies
>
> 94 Golf
> www.Mack73.com
Sling on the emission crap once every 2 years.
Pop in a stocker motor.






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Re: Old School carbs or EFI?
January 01, 2007 03:10PM
so carbs it is, they're being shipped on tuesday

I've got til 08 to figure out how to get it through emissions winking smiley



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Re: Old School carbs or EFI?
January 01, 2007 11:53PM
You know in Washington state they don't test for NOX, only HC and CO2. And there's no visual inspection. At least 2 guys over here in Spokane have passed somewhat modified XR4Ti's without any emission components(EGR,PCV,CAT,Charcol canister,etc).



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Re: Old School carbs or EFI?
January 02, 2007 02:35PM
exactly, as long as I can tune it a little lean as it comes off idle I should be ok - then richen it back up for mucho power.

now its time to dive into MSD wiring and carburetor tuning



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Re: Old School carbs or EFI?
January 02, 2007 03:19PM
I ran my carbs with the stock sparky stuff off a 1985 golf, simple simple simple and worked rather well I think.

I had the car licecned at my house on Lopez Island - no testing for me, I am sure it would have passed anyway-;

I never found any problem running carbs on my Golf rally car other than starting on a cold day with no chokes hooked up and a 315 deg cam so the air was running both ways in the intake at starter motor RPM. My car idled best at about 1200 to 1500 RPM, but I could get it down to 1000 when warmed up.

The carbs sound so good I think that alone is worth skipping EFI.

Also you should ask how many people I know who have not made rally starts cuse EFI issues...

Derek





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