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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
July 04, 2013 08:39AM
After the RallyCross we took off up I75 headed for Traverse City and the week long Porsche Parade, the Porsche Club's annual convention if you like. We only got 20 miles before the RALIVAN cried foul and slowed to a crawl while making a loud exhaust noise from under the cab. After a few phone calls and about 100 miles of 50mph crawling we found an Autozone and pulled in for a code reading.





As suspected we had a boost leak. The computer shuts it down by opening the waste gate so it just runs normally aspirated and slow. We limped into Traverse City around 7pm instead the anticipated 5pm.

As we were too late to check in for Parade on Sunday and with the concours being at 8am, too early to check in, we couldn't get the car into the concours at all. Seemed a bit silly as we'd paid and were physically there on time but whatever. We parked the car in a conspicuous spot and went off to breakfast in a huff.



When we came back we ddi find a treat in the form of an authentic Rothmans SC/RS sporting one of only two light pods at the entire Parade!






Excited again we went off and set up our display.



Unfortunately we had to miss the TSD rally on Tuesday morning because the car was sick. After the last run on Saturday it developed a high idle as in 2000rpm high. Not knowing what the cause was we thought it prudent not to drive it and try to fix it before the autocross on Thursday. We also broke the passenger door handle and the rear view mirror fell off! Oh, and we now have a small oil leak from the front main seal area.

We found this small vacuum hose flopping around behind the throttle body but replacing it didn't make any difference sad smiley



So we took of the idle air control valve and sprayed carb cleaner through it. A lot of carb cleaner.

Fortunately, that seemed to fix it. At least for now.



So at least we should be able to run the autocross on Thursday. Stay tuned.

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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
July 05, 2013 08:21AM
But before the autocross a few other items to take care of. Parade is a very busy week and you can't do everything, not even close. We signed up to instruct at the Street Survival course Wednesday morning. We've done a few of these now and find them very rewarding. The people we train also share the road with us so from a purely selfish point of view very useful too.



Wednesday afternoon we spent a very entertaining couple of hours with David S. Wallens from Grassroots Motorsport Magazine shooting the breeze about older 911s. GRM has a [URL="[url]http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/1984-porsche-911-carrera/"[/url];]similar car [/URL]to ours that they are running stock to show their readers that you can have affordable fun in a Porsche. David and I had some "fun" in ours in a gravel lot we found nearby but before that he took some pictures in clean-mode.



With all the activities going on, not the least manning or display, it was quite late when we finally got all loaded up for the autocross.



The autocross took place at the Beach Bums Stadium outside of Traverse City. I think the Beam Bums are TC's minor league baseball team. PCA do things a little different to SCCA but the event ran very smoothly and we got five runs instead of our usual three so that was a bonus.










[url=

?t=9s]Porsche Parade Autocross - YouTube[/url]



We managed second in class which surprised us no end as the car is not really setup for autocross and this was only our second one. To be fair we only had one fast run with all the others being in the 6-7th place times. Still, it only takes one and we didn't hit any cones all day smiling smiley


Friday was pack up the display, check out of our condo then spend the rest of the day in seminars before heading of to Grattan for the High Performance Drivers Education event hosted by the RSR division. FUN!


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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
July 08, 2013 07:29AM
The final phase of our Porsche Parade adventure was the High Performance Driving Education event put on by the RSR region of the PCA. The event was held over Saturday and Sunday at [URL="[url]http://www.grattanraceway.com/"[/url];]Grattan Raceway [/URL]near Grand Rapids, about 3 hours south of Traverse City.


[IMG]http://www.grattanraceway.com/images/482_Kent_195_350_Raceway_Park_Inc.jpg[/IMG]


The weather on the way down Friday looked a bit ominous but cleared up for the weekend with only one damp session:

[IMG]https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1012625_3280896957803_888971578_n.jpg[/IMG]


All set up and ready to go

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Grattan is a challenging track with many blind apexes and elevation changes

[IMG]http://www.wmr-scca.org/tracks/grattan_map.png[/IMG]


But our instructor, Christopher de Graffenried is one of the best.

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Apparently the car leans a lot under hard cornering

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which may explain this:

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Brake dust on Plasti-dip smiling smiley

[IMG]https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1009754_3288447546563_342378654_n.jpg[/IMG]



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
July 09, 2013 09:06PM
Back from the Porsche Parade; time to start fixing things: Replaced the mud flap and glued the mirror back on. We also cleaned the wheels before replacing the broken passenger door handle:




A bit fiddly getting the circlips out.






Looks good. Will replace the driver's side soon, hopefully before that breaks too!



Then we replace the idle air valve. Now idles steady as a rock.




Now the car is ready for tomorrow's photo shoot.


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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
July 11, 2013 08:25AM
Phase 1 of our photo and video shoot with [URL="[url]http://www.windingroad.com/"[/url];]Winding Road Magazine[/URL] went well but we were rained out in the afternoon so didn't get to use the goggle cam and ear bud microphones yet!

[IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1044134_3318840706373_860460071_n.jpg[/IMG]

You won't believe the results these two pieces of technology produce but you'll have to wait till next week. sad smiley



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
July 25, 2013 02:20PM
How good are Porsche 911s?

Well, Scott Harvey just won the National Challenge RallyCross event in Modified class in ours despite us normally running in Prepared in a car that, from a performance perspective is essentially Stock!





So, pretty much amazing.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
July 26, 2013 09:29PM
I'm protesting the car (looks far too nice), the driver (driver skill is not listed as a permissible vehicle mod), and the course (I got beat by not one but two Miatas, WTF?)

You may be interested in a chart that Chris (1st place behind Scott) put together...



The course definitely favored cars that could turn in very well, IE cars that do not have super tight limited slips. The grippy "blue groove" most of the way around the courses made me feel that I should try to drive it like an autocross - don't slide too much, keep everything in check. Nope. Diff wouldn't let me. Started posting better times when I decided f-it, just hang the tail out everywhere. Never heard so much tire howl at a rallycross before.

2nd place in M4 was won on Star Specs.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
July 26, 2013 09:49PM
What sorta laps times?



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
July 26, 2013 10:06PM
Runs were mostly in the 60 second range.

Scott's overall time was 820 and change... mine was down in sucktasticville 26 seconds back, good enough for a close 5th. I had the GPS going but forgot to get course lengths.

It should be pointed out that the Mod RWD class was the largest class of the whole event (13 or 15 people depending on how you count), even eclipsing the AWD guys. A far cry from a few years ago when very few people bothered with rear drive except for a small minority of loonies/people of Vision.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
August 07, 2013 06:43PM
Some actions shots from the recent RallyCross have emerged:













Currently working on the Rothmans/BRAID/TIM graphics package. Stay tuned.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
August 12, 2013 08:26AM
We have finally started work on the graphics package for the car. As you may have read earlier in this thread the goal is to do a TIM/BRAID version of the classic Rothmans SC/RS graphics from the 80s. We are trying to stay true to the design while substituting our BRAID blue, TIM yellow and red and adding a gray TIM into the stripes. The current bumper arrangement is quite dissimilar to the SC?RS so we may have to fudge that a little until we can replace the bumpers once we move up a few classes.

So far:

We layed out the design with flexible pin striping tape.






But started on the engine cover as it seemed easy and defines the stripe's end points.






As we will be using magnetic numbers on vinyl number panels we thought we'd remove one layer of vinyl to aid adhesion. You can see the sanded down clear coat under the white.










Cutting is hard.




Actually the whole process proved more difficult than anticipated so we brought in some professional advisors from One Soul Graphics.






Adam uses cutting edge technology (knife, get it?) to cut the vinyl.






But we did this side ourselves smiling smiley





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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
August 16, 2013 04:25PM
More progress this week:














Then we had to stop and load it onto the trailer for the RallyCross tomorrow. That is what it's for after all. Just a few more details to finish off next week.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
August 18, 2013 11:52AM
Set out to get the new shiny vinyl dirty at the Detroit RallyCross.



No mud but plenty of dust which is appropriate as we dusted the opposition, again.







We tried a GoPro for the first time at this event. Unfortunately we had lost the instructions so got plenty of video of Scott turning it off DOH! here's one iPhone launch Video we got as a backup.

[url=

]BRAID-TIM 911 RallyCross Launch - YouTube[/url]


Uh oh! found this on the trailer this morning. Doesn't smell like transmission fluid so must be oil. Doesn't really smell at all to be honest. Coming from the bell housing. Main seal? Is it called rear or front main seal on these?

[IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1174565_3439147353964_34210408_n.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1004845_3439147553969_1018442568_n.jpg[/IMG]


I guess the engine is coming out this week sad smiley. Anyone want to help? What are the likely culprits? What "while you're in there's" should we do?

Brace yourselves for lots of pictures and even more questions.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
August 21, 2013 07:31AM
Managed a little progress yesterday then someone came over to buy our Outback Rally Wagon so job stopped. It was late anyway.

Here's more pictures of the leak:








Drained the oil




Disconnected all this stuff: electrical connectors, fuel lines, vacuum line.




Disconnected the HT lead and found a cracked wire



Disconnected the oil lines except this one which would come apart. Any suggestions?



O2 sensor. Why is the stud not connected?



Was working on the main wiring connector but I may have broken it. Then the phone rang.



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Re: 911 Carrera RallyCross Project
August 24, 2013 05:12PM
More engine removal progress.

Trying to remove stuff that's already removed. Where is this supposed to go?




Part of my problem working on this car is lack of familiarity, especially with electrical connectors. Case in point:




Apparently some people have struggled getting this through the bulkhead. I didn't have a problem though.







FAIL! sad smiley




Not FAIL smiling smiley





Oops




OUT!





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