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Noooooob building Audi 4000

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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 16, 2013 01:06PM
Oh and for the record, I'm not a huge advocate for Torsens. They pretty much suck ass when pushed. If there is any way to make them better, minus putting the 016 back in or firing up the welder and locking that bitch(which I probably will do), I'm game to try it. Even if it is just for fun or 1st hand experience. Then down the road I can say BTDT for future stuff. I'm stubborn too and sometimes have to bang my head against the wall for a bit sorting things out.
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 17, 2013 01:14AM
Don't let john paint me as an expert I'm not

Avoid project creep, get on stage

Take a moment too look at what factory cars ran.... more often than not on gravel a spool.

Ask vittorio what he does.

Fancy diffs can do incredible things. .. we don't have one.

Cage it and start racing, start a second shell for fancy bits. Look wt all the simple 2wd cars that put down fast times. Hoche has a great example in his golf. Simple and race. Upgrade later.

When does your cage metal arrive?
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 18, 2013 01:01AM
Glad to be typing on a laptop finally instead of a phone.

Please by all means keep the car posted here, you will get great advice. Seriously I wish I'd have just run the damn car with the 10v and raced open light until winter time. Motor swaps are pretty simple... Trans swaps are simple... preparing a race car and doing the above, stupid complicated.


IVe been racing my DD in the NHA hillclimb series to get me by. And with pretty good success for a car that weighed in with me, a full size spare and a half tank of gas at just over 4k lbs even. (I'm supposed to be selling it but haven't actually put any effort into the sale) But having a dedicated car would be alot easier to push hard If I didn't have to go to work the next day.

I've also come around to the reasoning that track time/ race time by far trumps a badass car build by about 1000000 to 1. I came to this the hard way, realistically I could be 3 rallys done, primarily due to lack of time, secondarily due to the fact that I believe a hobby should fund itself. My car has been entirely funded by buying and selling crap/ side projects. Not a dime from the paycheck. Put a cage in it and get on stage. Suspension can be upgraded in hours, motors in days... but building a rally ready car takes time. Stay focused on the goal.

Torsen can be argued till you are blue in the face.... Doesn't make it a race ready.

Dash... I'd have kept the stock setup had I not left it in the sun (by accident thinking I had a spare) It was easier to build another at that point and prolly easier than putting the stock one back together. I"ve also spit it into two pieces and installed it via velcro and molex connectors.
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 21, 2013 10:04PM
Work week done. Usually consist of work and sleep in a zombie like state......work my few day shift a week and done for 3-4 days! Love my job!


I thought I mentioned it in my very first post but I guess not. From day one my stage date has been planned for Nemadji Trail or Ojibwe 2015. I've put together waaaay to many cars on the most gruesome timeframes, to put myself though that torture lol. Considering my lifestyles(can't even call em hobbies considering they consume lol) ARE my life, I've had to adapt to the more "realists" approach...more so for fear of divorce lol. So yeah, shooting to have the car stage ready by 2015 with a few rally cross events and maybe a drift day or 2 next summer to shake out some mechanical bugs. Either way it'll be fun to thrash on this thing.


For the progress? Last week was kind of a dud. Super fricken hot here in MN plus with getting the house ready for the baby and spending wed in WI helping with the search for that little boy, didn't get much done. Got some more chassis wiring segregated and cleaned up, started disabling the locking mechanisms on the doors and got a fancy schmancy new "Driven" steering wheel. I'll post pics up tomorrow. Nothing crazy lol. Just need some fun stuff every once in a while...

Planning on getting close to having the wiring finished up this week, locks done, maybe run the power to the trunk and get her started. Meh well see... It's been a long week at work and this beer tastes awesome.
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 22, 2013 09:13AM
Why is it the moment I move away from MN/WI people seem to come out of the woodwork? grinning smiley I can't wingshoot for crap but you make it look fun and less complicated than rally car building. Thanks for the post!



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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 23, 2013 01:14PM
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Why is it the moment I move away from MN/WI people seem to come out of the woodwork? grinning smiley I can't wingshoot for crap but you make it look fun and less complicated than rally car building. Thanks for the post!

Ain't that how it normally goes? That stinks lol. I used to hang out over at Midwest Motorworks in Hudson when I lived in St.Paul a few years back. Yeah usually duck season is a good time. For 60 plus days, I could give two shits about just about anything that doesn't have wings and webbed feet lol. My outlook has always been to smile and laugh. Sometimes you get so caught up in things that you have to remind yourself that this shits supposed to be fun lol. You ever make it back to the MN rallies?
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 23, 2013 09:19PM
Just for giggles take a look at Jari-Matti Latvala's recent vid comparing a urq rally car and a modern Polo... Whats the differential of choice?
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 23, 2013 09:41PM
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Just for giggles take a look at Jari-Matti Latvala's recent vid comparing a urq rally car and a modern Polo... Whats the differential of choice?

Which video?
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 24, 2013 11:16AM
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 24, 2013 08:52PM

Oh. Yeah. Locked center diff. You have tried to do do tight slide figure 8s with a locked rear, locked center and 140 bhp right? Locked diffs and no power go great straight. Plow through anything. Locked diffs trying to swing or handle? Nope. Quattros plow. With 300+ bhp to play with is one thing. I said it before, I'll probably lock the center diff but not before trying out some other things. Maybe I'm naive because I haven't been on stage. I'm onlycming from how I've pushed this exact car prior to making "race car." With everything locked, it sucked balls trying to get it into that groove with no power. All I'm staying is a little rear biasy couldn't hurt. Hopefully next summer I can litterally do a side by side comparison between locked and shimmed centers, and see what fits my driving style best.

On another note lol... you get a chance to play with those mounts John sent you? How do they look?
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 24, 2013 11:05PM
Still haven't seen the mounts from john....
No need to lock the rear, just the center.
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 25, 2013 12:55AM
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Still haven't seen the mounts from john....
No need to lock the rear, just the center.

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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 25, 2013 03:05PM
Tracked it down, testing tonight.
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
July 25, 2013 03:53PM
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Tracked it down, testing tonight.

Niiiiiiice.
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Re: Noooooob building Audi 4000
August 08, 2013 01:40PM
Been a couple of crazy weeks! Had some family on the wife's side in town, my grandma died, work, now more family in town lol. Pretty much life.

Not a ton of car progression. Just haven't had much time to get out there for more than a couple hours at a time. Did manage to get the door locks disabled, chassis harness is stripped and thinned out and talked to a custom paint shop that I helped out a couple of years ago. Helped him deep clean his shop one weekend in prep for a car show/open house. He remembered and now I'm getting paint/body work done for just materials!

Have managed to score a couple parts though!


Picked up this little guy.


Craigslist find of the day! Brand new Corbeau for $100!


And then this guy!


Do you think these mudflaps are overkill? Lol



Our baby is due about any day now, so I'm guessing it'll be a few weeks before I can really get back at this thing. I figure I'll spend the time away from it gathering more parts and materials. Hopefully within the next couple of weeks I can get my cage material, so after I get the seats located and mounts built, I can start doing the cage. Hopefully before spring it'll be down at the body shop getting paint. Not sure if I want to keep it white or not. Thinking white interior with orange exterior? Normally paint I could care less about, especially during something this big where every dollar counts, but hell, getting a helluva deal on the work so why not?
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