Robert Culbertson Out of this dumpster fire Professional Moderator Join Date: 08/15/2010 Posts: 1,236 |
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heymagic Banned Professional Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
I had a red top years ago that lasted well, rally car and then in shop truck . Seems to be mixed results from people over the years on all brands. I think it is largely a luck thing.
A side note on terminals, keep the positive protected and that means the dreaded side post terminals also. I see a few of those dual post batteries come thru tech and the little red protector missing from the side post. |
Cosworth Paulinho Ferreira Senior Moderator Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: 03/15/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 721 Rally Car: Honda Civic |
That's because they only run the maps that Msport sent. Those are shit and so is the rest of the motor package anyways. But in Spain they developed maps for the R2 package that make 190-195hp (depending on altitude) running on ELF Atmo Max. The tarmac championship there is mental.... so every little horsepower counts. The 1.6 motor doesn't make more power because they didn't develop it further. After all we had the S1600's making 220hp (that required 10000 euro rebuilds every 1000kms) |
Cosworth Paulinho Ferreira Senior Moderator Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: 03/15/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 721 Rally Car: Honda Civic |
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Nubby Tony Wells Godlike Moderator Location: Omaha, NE Join Date: 07/08/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 191 Rally Car: SP Evo IX #112 |
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DaveK Dave Kern Mod Moderator Location: Centennial Join Date: 07/11/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 1,085 Rally Car: Compact M3 & Evo IX |
Those look like they use the same case as the DynaBatt. No experience with XS personally, but am also looking at going with a small battery on the Evo for next year. Been running a big optima yellow-top for years...but at 45#, its a prime place to start as I put it on a serious diet.
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NoCoast Grant Hughes Elite Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
I know where you can lose another 45 pounds. :b Grant Hughes |
DaveK Dave Kern Mod Moderator Location: Centennial Join Date: 07/11/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 1,085 Rally Car: Compact M3 & Evo IX |
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Robert Culbertson Out of this dumpster fire Professional Moderator Join Date: 08/15/2010 Posts: 1,236 |
A really common alternative for light weight batteries is Braille, which are actually re-badged Deka batteries.
Deka Powersports PDF The ETX30L costs about $85, but you will need to have a trickle charger/battery tender on it or it WILL go dead after a few months unless it is constantly being used. It looks like some subaru guys put all the weights and CCAs into a nice little format for others to view: Nasioc.com Here's the list, copied over from NASIOC: By Brand: Braille**: Braille B3121 ----------CCA: 550 ---- weight: 21lb ---------------- CA: 742 Braille B2015 ----------CCA: 425 ---- weight: 15lb ---------------- CA: 574 Braille B14115 ---------CCA: 360 ---- weight: 11lb,8oz ------------ CA: 486 Braille B106 -----------CCA: 210 ---- weight: 6lb,6oz ------------- CA: 283 Westco: Westco Miata ---------CCA: 475 ---- weight: 25lb Deka: Deka ETX30 -----------CCA: 370 ---- weight: 21.7lb Deka ETX20 -----------CCA: 270 ---- weight: 15.5lb Deka ETX18 -----------CCA: 300 ---- weight: 18lb Deka ETX16 -----------CCA: 275 ---- weight: 17lb Deka ETX14 -----------CCA: 200 ---- weight: 12lb Deka ETX12 -----------CCA: 180 ---- weight: 9.4lb Deka ETX9 -----------CCA: 120 ---- weight: 6.3lb Odyssey: Odyssey PC680 --------CCA: 220 --- weight: 15lb / 16lb For MJT* Odyssey PC925/MJT ---CCA: 380 --- weight: 24lb / 26lb For MJT* Optima: Optima 34&34R --------CCA 800 -----weight: 37.9lb --------------- CA: 1000 Optima 37/78 ----------CCA 800 ---- weight: 38.8lb --------------- CA: 1000 Optima 75/25 ----------CCA 720 ---- weight: 33.1lb --------------- CA: 910 Optima 25&35 ---------CCA 720 ----- weight: 31.7lb --------------- CA: 910 Duralast: Duralast 8AMU1R ------CCA: 330 ---- weight: 25lb Marathon: Marathon MAR-8AMU1R-CCA: 320 ---- weight: 25lb By CCA: Optima 34&34R --------CCA 800 -----weight: 37.9lb -------------- CA: 1000 Optima 37/78 ----------CCA 800 ---- weight: 38.8lb -------------- CA: 1000 Optima 75/25 ----------CCA 720 ---- weight: 33.1lb -------------- CA: 910 Optima 25&35 ---------CCA 720 ----- weight: 31.7lb -------------- CA: 910 Braille B3121 ----------CCA: 550 ---- weight: 21lb ---------------- CA: 742 Westco Miata ---------CCA: 475 ---- weight: 25lb Braille B2015 ----------CCA: 425 ---- weight: 15lb ---------------- CA: 574 Odyssey PC925/MJT ---CCA: 380 ---- weight: 24lb / 26lb For MJT* Deka ETX30 -----------CCA: 370 ---- weight: 21.7lb Braille B14115 ---------CCA: 360 ---- weight: 11lb,8oz ------------ CA: 486 Duralast 8AMU1R ------CCA: 330 ---- weight: 25lb Marathon MAR-8AMU1R-CCA: 320 ---- weight: 25lb Deka ETX18 -----------CCA: 300 ---- weight: 18lb Deka ETX16 -----------CCA: 275 ---- weight: 17lb Deka ETX20 -----------CCA: 270 ---- weight: 15.5lb Odyssey PC680 --------CCA: 220 ---- weight: 15lb / 16lb For MJT* Braille B106 -----------CCA: 210 ---- weight: 6lb,6oz ------------- CA: 283 Deka ETX14 -----------CCA: 200 ---- weight: 12lb Deka ETX12 -----------CCA: 180 ---- weight: 9.4lb Deka ETX9 -----------CCA: 120 ---- weight: 6.3lb By Weight: Optima 37/78 ----------CCA 800 ---- weight: 38.8lb --------------- CA: 1000 Optima 34&34R --------CCA 800 -----weight: 37.9lb --------------- CA: 1000 Optima 75/25 ----------CCA 720 ---- weight: 33.1lb --------------- CA: 910 Optima 25&35 ---------CCA 720 ----- weight: 31.7lb --------------- CA: 910 Westco Miata ---------CCA: 475 ---- weight: 25lb Duralast 8AMU1R ------CCA: 330 ---- weight: 25lb Marathon MAR-8AMU1R-CCA: 320 ---- weight: 25lb Odyssey PC925/MJT ---CCA: 380 --- weight: 24lb / 26lb For MJT* Deka ETX30 -----------CCA: 370 ---- weight: 21.7lb Braille B3121 ----------CCA: 550 ---- weight: 21lb ---------------- CA: 742 Braille B14115 ---------CCA: 360 ---- weight: 11lb,8oz ------------ CA: 486 Deka ETX18 -----------CCA: 300 ---- weight: 18lb Deka ETX16 -----------CCA: 275 ---- weight: 17lb Deka ETX20 -----------CCA: 270 ---- weight: 15.5lb Odyssey PC680 --------CCA: 220 --- weight: 15lb / 16lb For MJT* Braille B2015 ----------CCA: 425 ---- weight: 15lb ---------------- CA: 574 Deka ETX14 -----------CCA: 200 ---- weight: 12lb Deka ETX12 -----------CCA: 180 ---- weight: 9.4lb Braille B106 -----------CCA: 210 ---- weight: 6lb,6oz ------------- CA: 283 Deka ETX9 -----------CCA: 120 ---- weight: 6.3lb More info: Braile: Probably Deka rebadged **no info on website on what Temp the CCA and CA test are done at... DEKA: Come with M6 Thread on terminals - you will need adapter to SAE automotive Terminals. Rebadged as BigCrank, Braille and other brands // BigCrank has cheap price . (Proved and discussed on the vwvortex there is a whole thread about it.) Odyssey: *MJT: Metal Jacket + Terminals. Also the Odysseys have battery mounting brakets avaible. Miata Battery: Duralast rates them at 330CCA, Marathon at 320CCA, Westco at 475CCA, make what you want of this info but personally I'm not getting a Westco Battery Made by EastPenn Mfg. Sold under: Marathon MAR-8AMU1R (1Year Warranty) Westco 12V31M (4 Year Warranty) Duralast 8AMU1R (8Year Warranty - apparently WAS avaible at autozone) |
Nubby Tony Wells Godlike Moderator Location: Omaha, NE Join Date: 07/08/2008 Age: Possibly Wise Posts: 191 Rally Car: SP Evo IX #112 |
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FunctionAuto Tyler Patik Super Moderator Location: Casper, Wy Join Date: 12/13/2009 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 131 Rally Car: 1995 IMpreza |
I have the dékà ext20 in my car and I haven't had any issues. My car went Down on August 22 and I stared the car for the first time last week in negative temps just to see if it would, and it worked without a hitch and without being on a charger at all in that time.
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