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Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!

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Aaron Luptak
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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 21, 2014 10:56AM
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http://kingpinmachine.com/ would probably turn out a set for you, although it'll probably be $$$. He might be willing to offer advice if you want to DIY it though.

Aaron when you see bullshit like this:

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Pressing bushings out of control arms is generally a dangerous process that requires specialized equipment. We have already created fixtures and dies to hold suspension components in place while applying the immense pressure needed to press out stock bushings. We have the proper assembly tools such as a hydraulic-electric press, an arbor press, welding tools, retaining tools and products etc. and just as importantly the experience to do the job right.
Finally, we are hopeless perfectionists.


Come on, don't you know to run away?

Typically, I'd agree with you - and perhaps having interacted a bit with him (Chris Brinson) has clouded my judgment.
The "dangerous process" is 100% fluff - and he knows that. And he's totally honest about his perfectionism, but for him it's a selling point - he's a one man shop trying to produce the best product possible for his customers, competing against larger companies producing lower-quality product at a lower pricepoint.

Similar challenges as a certain purveyor of bitchin' suspenders faces? Sure.
But the fact that he takes a different approach to producing and marketing his product doesn't change the fact that he seems to be just as supportive of his customers (both in a service/support manner as well as helping-them-achieve-their-goals) as you are.



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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 21, 2014 12:51PM
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Aaron Luptak
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john vanlandingham
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Aaron Luptak


http://kingpinmachine.com/ would probably turn out a set for you, although it'll probably be $$$. He might be willing to offer advice if you want to DIY it though.

Aaron when you see bullshit like this:

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Pressing bushings out of control arms is generally a dangerous process that requires specialized equipment. We have already created fixtures and dies to hold suspension components in place while applying the immense pressure needed to press out stock bushings. We have the proper assembly tools such as a hydraulic-electric press, an arbor press, welding tools, retaining tools and products etc. and just as importantly the experience to do the job right.
Finally, we are hopeless perfectionists.


Come on, don't you know to run away?

Typically, I'd agree with you - and perhaps having interacted a bit with him (Chris Brinson) has clouded my judgment.
The "dangerous process" is 100% fluff - and he knows that. And he's totally honest about his perfectionism, but for him it's a selling point - he's a one man shop trying to produce the best product possible for his customers, competing against larger companies producing lower-quality product at a lower pricepoint.

Similar challenges as a certain purveyor of bitchin' suspenders faces? Sure.
But the fact that he takes a different approach to producing and marketing his product doesn't change the fact that he seems to be just as supportive of his customers (both in a service/support manner as well as helping-them-achieve-their-goals) as you are.

I understand that but 100% fluff looks like, and sounds like and smells like bullshit...

Stuff looks good, prices are kinda high for what it is but hey most people "need" a lot more of everything than I do, including money...
And sorry but I have been around too many self described "perfectionists" and its always gone bad..... It's an abstract and imaginary concept and it's a 'marker" for somebody who I dunno, just doesn't understand that us amateur savages don't need perfection in anything except: bearing crush, bearing clearances, piston ring side clearance, pin bore fit and maybe valve seats...
EVERYTHING else we need "pretty damn good"....not junk, but not "perfection", just pretty damn good..(even torque on bolts is always a range)

Perfection is where the cost curve goes straight up and the laugh return curve plummets straight down.....ie multiples more in costs for fractions of 1% returns...or immeasurable for us numbskulls....

Remember the slogan I say everybody should carve on a big wooden sign and hang just a touch too low in the garage so you inevitably conk you head on it daily???
That sign we all need pounded into our heads is :

(paraphrased)


What it really was, which I like better





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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 21, 2014 01:15PM
"Falling on your face is still at least moving forward"?

Immense pressures. Gotta love that. i just use a ball joint press, takes no effort at all.



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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 23, 2014 06:20PM
so got my hands on this mess for the rear perhaps.... from a 94 Rx-7








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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 23, 2014 09:03PM
IRS? Well, thats not very manly...
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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 23, 2014 10:37PM
I can envision a stronger, lighter, tubular frame to replace that stamped piece.....



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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 23, 2014 10:42PM
I read somewhere that a miata rear end goes into these cars quite nicely but was never able to find more info. Im quite keen to see where you go with this.
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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 29, 2014 12:39AM
Busy day.

1. GSL-SE is officially gone. Cut the front corners for spares for the rally car.

2. Began the FD3S rx7 rear suspension. The gas cylinder is representative of how tall the towers will likely be since the strut mounts on top of the hub assembly. Various pictures of the FD rears and the spares (i acquired three dropouts in total. left one assembled for mocking up).

3. turns out the rear brakes are FUCKING HUGE since they ever-so-barely rub the inside of my enkei. Any rally wheels have a larger inner diameter?

4. Diff is nicely sized relative to the dewalt 18v batt used for reference. Good ring. Going with either 4.88 or 5.12. Currently has a torsen diff however, but i can get a clutch verison.























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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 30, 2014 12:23AM
engine bay is done! finally! maybe another layer of paint another day.





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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
March 30, 2014 02:44AM
If you are adding grounds find spots for them now while it's easy to get to fresh metal... Ask me how I know.
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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
April 08, 2014 09:41PM
progress from today.



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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
April 13, 2014 02:52PM
rear suspension progress!

need to do towers and some finish reinforcement.



























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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
April 14, 2014 12:35AM
Im confused... two cars? lots of suspension awesomeness, and a flat hood volvo?

You sir have your priorities straight. Also you build sweet stuff. smileys with beer
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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
April 14, 2014 11:25PM
It's his lady friend's fault. She promotes this sort of nonsense.
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Re: Rx-7 Rally Car v3.0!
April 15, 2014 12:23AM
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It's his lady friend's fault. She promotes this sort of nonsense.

That Volvo with the nice round lights in the background is Al Kun's spare shell..
You calling Al the girlfiend of Alex?

Mighty metro-sexual of you there AJ



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