heymagic Banned Super Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
I'm pretty sure neither Keith or myself give a crap about what cars you like or recommend. Unlike I've actually rallied them RWD cars and am still a RWD guy. I also can see there is a market for the new FWD stuff, maybe not for me, but a market none the less. I don't berate or judge those guys or that trend like you do. We be different people. Your behavior is the big issue for me. Sean nicely made mention of your failed attempt of an apology. You then start in about him not returning parts, shame. That is private shit between the two of you. You always tell these new kids to re-use crank bearings and just toss in a head gasket, now you're telling Dave he has to suddenly deck the block. You basically went quite overboard on Charles' dreams and desires in Matt's for sale thread, really none of your business. Shit happens, Charles didn't get divorced or have his business struggle over failing to heed your advice. Quite simply you're an asshole who can't either recognize your aberrant behavior or are so insecure you can't admit an error. Tain't humor.
I can't change you nor fix you but I have nop problem poking you once in a while when it's needed..whether it does any good or not. I do apologize for my part to the people who threads get ruined over stupid shit. It is either don't post on here at all or tug on your sleeve and tell you to not fart in church. I still have a roll in the rally community and stuff to offer, so get used to your sleeve being tugged. Asshole. I'm grinning right now btw. |
john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Godlike Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Oh thank you so much for your expertise, shit damn a road to Damascus Revelation! Praise the lard. I thought it was a supplier problem when I order 10 units , turns out they have 6......and ship 6.. Yep has to be my fault. Has to be, I just didn't see it cause I'm sure a huge asshole. Now I know! I still need 4 more units and they have none and will need even more soon, and I want some for inventory.. They take 3 weeks or 6 weeks, must be my fault.. I just don't know what to do when I keep cleaning off their shelves..... John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
RALLYRS Mike Ball Professional Moderator Location: Simi Valley,Ca. Join Date: 07/15/2011 Age: Ancient Posts: 466 Rally Car: Nope...I wish...RWD 2 Door Jeep XJ 4.0 5-spd Dirt-o-cross car(we have no grass!)2.3 ZX3 rallyx car(sold) |
Since Andrew posted this... Not to say that its still not an expensive option,but I was curious what the REAL price of the engine and harness linked above actually was..not the silly MSRP. Got my answer today from Steve at Tasca Ford-where I buy my Ford parts: "Hey Mike, I can do the engine for $5565.00 and the control pack for $1413.50 and if ordered together there would be no freight charge to any location in the lower 48. Both are in stock and ready to ship. -Steve" ................................................. ..................... Support your Local North American Rally Forum!! While they are still around-and get the hell off Farsebook!! We still have Specialstage & RallyAnarchy. Post up Here: https://rallyanarchy.com/phorum/posting.php and here: https://www.specialstage.com/forums/forum.php |
heymagic Banned Super Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
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mellow65 Oliver Klozoff Senior Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
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RALLYRS Mike Ball Professional Moderator Location: Simi Valley,Ca. Join Date: 07/15/2011 Age: Ancient Posts: 466 Rally Car: Nope...I wish...RWD 2 Door Jeep XJ 4.0 5-spd Dirt-o-cross car(we have no grass!)2.3 ZX3 rallyx car(sold) |
It's Duratec/MZR based so it APPEARS the ranger and NC Miata transmissions(as well as quad rods bellhousing) SHOULD work for RWD. And the MTX75 SHOULD work- as well as (obviously) the Focus ST's Getrag Ford MMT-6 for FWD apps. A quick internet search of "2.0 ecoboost swap" shows the beginnings of swaps into fox body stangs, NC miatas, Locosts etc. but cant find anyone that's bolted up the trans yet.... ................................................. ..................... Support your Local North American Rally Forum!! While they are still around-and get the hell off Farsebook!! We still have Specialstage & RallyAnarchy. Post up Here: https://rallyanarchy.com/phorum/posting.php and here: https://www.specialstage.com/forums/forum.php |
mellow65 Oliver Klozoff Senior Moderator Location: Oregon Join Date: 09/10/2008 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 480 Rally Car: Nada |
That's what I'm finding too, but no one with an actual transmission hooked up yet. I found a blog of someone putting one into a fox body mustang, but it seems the pan might be an issue because it was meant to be in the west east configuration. They are having a K member made for his car though to fit. http://www.roadandtrack.com/features/web-originals/features-web-originals-project-ugly-horse-part-10 But on a positive note, I guess the 2.3 ecoboost is coming in the 2015 mustang, so there has to be some options with that coming. "Rally racing makes a heroin addiction look like a vague craving for something salty" |
NoCoast Grant Hughes Super Moderator Location: Whitefish, MT Join Date: 01/11/2006 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 6,818 Rally Car: BMW |
Time to raise your prices... Not sure if you've ever looked, but I have an alternatives exist but would be in the $4k range for a setup similar to your 40 mil stuff. Grant Hughes |
Andrew_Frick Andrew Frick Mod Moderator Location: Greenville, SC Join Date: 05/18/2007 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 684 Rally Car: Rally Spec Ford Focus |
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Godlike Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
At same time its one huge thing to worry about: locked into one OEM turbocharger at unflexible price. But hey its just money, and everybody is just rolling in spare $7000 for just a motor and ecu. I've already order 4 at that price. John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Morison Banned Mod Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
$7K is a lot of money, but what would it take in cores, machining and parts to build a pump gas, OEM reliable 252bhp/270tq turbo 4...
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john vanlandingham John Vanlandingham Godlike Moderator Location: Ford Asylum, Sleezattle, WA Join Date: 12/20/2005 Age: Fossilized Posts: 14,152 Rally Car: Saab 96 V4 |
Wrong question... What would it take for a 215-220 hp 235-245 ft/lb pump gas motor might be $6900 to $6950 cheaper for say Matt there in Calgary who got a nice simple car.. For him it'd take a Eek 4 ECU from any 88-89 T-bird. Done. they were 205 hp and 235 ft/lbs stock with a microscopic little IHI turbo..he has a nice5 T3...And thats stock cam What the engine doesn't make, the final drive does... John Vanlandingham Sleezattle, WA, USA Vive le Prole-le-ralliat www.rallyrace.net/jvab CALL +1 206 431-9696 Remember! Pacific Standard Time is 3 hours behind Eastern Standard Time. |
Morison Banned Mod Moderator Location: Calgary, AB Join Date: 03/27/2009 Age: Ancient Posts: 1,798 Rally Car: (ex)86 RX-7(built), (ex)2.5RS (bought) |
Fair enough, but if we assume people aren't going to replace perfectly good engines with a new crate motor, then we can start looking at real world comparisons.
How about Dave Clark 2.0 as an example. What are the options: - Pick up a known runner and install... - as above but 'refresh' it first... - Pick up a good 'core' and rebuild it from the ground up... - open up the current engine and rebuild it... Before looking at the cost of time, how much in parts and materials are we looking at? First Rally: 2001 Driver (7), Co-Driver (44) Drivers (16) Clerk (10), Official (7), Volunteer (4) Cars Built (1), Engines Built (0) Cages Built (0) Last Updated, January 4, 2015
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MattWatson Matt Watson Junior Moderator Location: Calgary Join Date: 04/17/2013 Age: Midlife Crisis Posts: 151 Rally Car: Merkur |
Calgary pricing ASSUMING no bore at all or replacement of major parts with a block in really really good shape and just needs some TLC for knowledge that you did the work. (eg, NOTHING in the head...) this is what I spent on the 900 B202 block I just did this with: Consumables: $175 (cleaners, degreasers, lapping compound etc) Bearings Main&Rod&Thrust: $170 Rings: $50 Bolts Head&Exhaust: $40 Gaskets: $180 Seals: $60 ish Plugs & Wires & Cap: $80 Flexhone for your engine: $75 Turbo: Turbo Rebuild: $140 Turbo Turbine Housing (they are ALWAYS cracked): $150 Shipping: at least $150 or so So around $1270 I figure I had 100 hours or so into the rebuild with NO headwork at all. Didn't need to deck, anything. So, unless you have a saab block which are almost indestructable, you will have to pick and choose from the following depending. (and this is where the calgary part comes in... and these prices are OLD so they are likely way higher now. This was from our flathead we did 8 years ago) Boring: $120 per hole (assume 4cyl AND if you can find someone in calgary willing to do it): $480 Pistons: $100 per hole: $400 Decking block: $200 Head Milling: $200 Valves exhaust: $280 Valves intake: $160 So if you had a more realistic rebuild with you supply 100% of the labour except the machine work. $2990 I got quotes if I supplied all the parts that a full head rebuild (seat grinds, guides, etc) could total $1500 not including materials! That motor is looking better and better lol. |
heymagic Banned Super Moderator Location: La la land Join Date: 01/25/2006 Age: Fossilized Posts: 3,740 Rally Car: Not a Volvo |
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