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Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 16, 2017 08:40PM
Seeking a logged booked (or log bookable with a little effort) Saab 99 NA for Group 2.

Been wanting one for about 35 years now. I've owned two 99 before (LE and EMS) so sort of know what I'm getting into. Since they are pretty scarce in US I figure I better get looking now, if want to race it before my odo rolls over to triple digits.

If anyone knows anyone who has a rally 99 now please let them know some nit-wit in Boston is on the hunt. Anyone know who the GRMS 99 was sold to?

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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 20, 2017 03:38AM
A real 900 would be 10 times easier to find and keep going---and its a better car. Still though keeping any 900 going today would be nuts...unless you are ready to spend around $6000 + lotsa dollah for airfreight to get the PARTS for a decent gearbox... That's nuts..But more nuts is thinking one can fake it without a proper box and diff and final drive...

So must it be a 99 or do you want to check Seattle Craigslist...



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 20, 2017 06:37AM
Thanks John. I concur. All rally is nuts. Thinking Saab or Capri. Also contemplating a Class 5/1600 SCORE 'dub. So yes, nuts.

If I were consider 80s it would be an XRatty, but still stuck in the 70s for now...

As Firesign Theater one said "were all bozos on this bus"



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 20, 2017 11:57AM
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Thanks John. I concur. All rally is nuts. Thinking Saab or Capri. Also contemplating a Class 5/1600 SCORE 'dub. So yes, nuts.

If I were consider 80s it would be an XRatty, but still stuck in the 70s for now...

As Firesign Theater one said "were all bozos on this bus"

That was my motto for a LONG time...and a good guide in life..

If I post up some recent--like 10 days ago results with 21 Historic cars, 36 RWD cars and 47 FWD cars and 37 other 2wd cars, (228 cars total) will you promise to look at the leading Historic car?
Its a 70s car...and it was often just swapping seconds with the best 2wd cars like:
http://www.raceconsulting.com/rally/resultat/onss.jsp?tavling=1048&urval=granskad.deltar.ejutesluten.ejdebutant.harsstid1&inkludera=tavlingsklass&sortering=tidss1&rubrik=On%20SS%201


Here's final for Historic:
http://www.raceconsulting.com/rally/resultat/resultat.jsp?tavling=1048&urval=granskad.deltar.tavlingsklass27497&rubrik=Klassresultat&underrubrik=Klass%204%20Supercupen%20(Grp.%20H%20Classic%20/%20App.%20K)


That's the thing..Most 70s cars that were any good kept getting made into the mid 80s in one form or the other..99 morphed into 900 in 79, then 90 in early 80s,
Capri kept going till 1986,
the 240 Volvo kept going till 1993--from 1975 so is that a 70s car? most of it was same as 140, made in late 60s...
Sure it is.

Look at the results..

and just for fun
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Q74DBRM3teg"; frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 20, 2017 05:40PM
Very interesting, a whole lotta Swedish crash boxes (240 &940s). about as interesting to me as Dansko clogs on my wife feet.... But your point is very well noted. Maybe I should shift focus to a Golf



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 20, 2017 10:59PM
http://www.saabplanet.com/for-sale-1973-saab-99-notchback-road-race-project/

Hard enough finding a 99 let alone a caged one.



Gearbox solution imo is rwd conversion. Mid/late 90's 900 b204 (or b234 from 2.3L 9000) engine/block purportedly good for 500hp on stock internals and not too hard to find in pull it yourself yards or whole parts car for cheap. Open source ecu tuning. T5 bell housings that bolt up out there as well as gearboxes in Europe that bolt up. Good answer to the Ford eco whatever finally got on the turbo train like thirty er forty someth'n years later and gonna hype n market it super hard now in Ford fashion loving crowd.
Hard part is all the fab work such as tunnel, rear suspension, and expense of fia fuel cell. Stuff that makes me think about putting setup in another already rwd chassis instead sad smiley
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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 21, 2017 12:08AM
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Very interesting, a whole lotta Swedish crash boxes (240 &940s). about as interesting to me as Dansko clogs on my wife feet.... But your point is very well noted. Maybe I should shift focus to a Golf

Oh ferfuckssake...Everything in the world is relative and you go from talking about a VERY STRONG car and VERY strong block and crank and then go to the diametric opposite... Endless for 30 years problems as yet unsolved for: engine mounts, blowing up the inside of outer CVs, shearing off the splined part of outer CVs, bending rear spindles, bending rear beam---and very expensive gearbox parts...and 12.5 hrs to R&R the box and replace anything...

And who wears Dankso?

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Sure seems like we make a lot of problems by ourselves..



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 21, 2017 09:12PM
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Hard enough finding a 99 let alone a caged one.

Yup! Been in touch with the owner, its project. An 18 month project... Only about half way there. If it was on east coast or running I'd be much more excited. But still an option. Might check out when I'm in LA next month.

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Endless for 30 years problems as yet unsolved for: engine mounts, blowing up the inside of outer CVs, shearing off the splined part of outer CVs, bending rear spindles, bending rear beam---and very expensive gearbox parts...and 12.5 hrs to R&R the box and replace anything...
Agreed, I'm all over the place... Just got a boner for '73 Capri RS in EU. Only 53,000 euro....

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Not me, real men wear Thoentorps!



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 23, 2017 11:02AM
I know it's a turbo, but it is on the right side of the country..ish, and at $6000 loonies it work outs to be about $4500 of your imperial dollars

Saab 99



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 24, 2017 11:05AM
have you poked around the saabrally forums? http://www.saabrally.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=11

There are a couple Log booked 900's somewhere on the Maine coast and a 99 hidden away somewhere in PA but who knows if they are for sale. Shells were getting tough to find out here even 10 years ago, 900's a little better, still seem to be plenty 240's for some reason. Someone will chime in and say to head west and get something clean.



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 24, 2017 12:27PM
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I know it's a turbo, but it is on the right side of the country..ish, and at $6000 loonies it work outs to be about $4500 of your imperial dollars

Thanks, very interesting. Didn't know 1975s came with turbo.

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have you poked around the saabrally forums?
There are a couple Log booked 900's somewhere on the Maine coast and a 99 hidden away somewhere in PA

Thanks, yes, been lurking there, but cant get Luke to register me.

Yes, trying let the 99 rally guys in north east know I'm on the hunt.



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
March 24, 2017 09:28PM
Only 99 rally car in New England I know of is Geoff Clark's. Mike White has a 900 and I think Seth Strait may have a 900 project as well. But I doubt Mike is in a selling mood.



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
April 20, 2017 07:19AM
To heck with 99's and 900's... this is what you need to buy.

http://bringatrailer.com/2017/04/19/ready-for-a-roll-cage-rally-look-1979-saab-96-gl/
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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
April 20, 2017 11:03AM
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To heck with 99's and 900's... this is what you need to buy.

http://bringatrailer.com/2017/04/19/ready-for-a-roll-cage-rally-look-1979-saab-96-gl/

Leave it to you to link to something stupidly expensive, stupidly stock, and nothing at all to do with rally expert to fucking posers..Stock engine, stock box, stock interior stock suspension..

What a fawkin mow-rawn...

Like 100% of your posts this one is useless.



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Re: Wanted Saab 99 rally car
April 20, 2017 12:10PM
The point was that the 96 was a lot better base platform for him to start with than a 99 or 900. And this one is in beautiful shape.
Better to have a useless post, than to be useless. The only thing you are good for, is for moving target practice. Thankfully, with that gimpy legged gait, its slow movement.
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