I am not intending to run any RA rallies in 2006. In addition I have confirmation that Cem Akdeniz (STi GrN), Cemal Balat (DSM Open), Hakan Okcuoglu (DSM Open), Murat Okcuoglu (Starion Gr5) BTW this is the whole STC (Sporting Turks Club) and even maybe Burak Tuglu (323 ProductionGT) will not be competing in RA rallies due to the fact that the "Safety Rules" are too ill thought and forbidding. We don't believe as competitors (read customers) we are being getting the respect and competitor (read customer) service we deserve. Yesterday Jeff Shu also confirmed that he has no intentions to run RA events du to the same facts. We will not yield to sanctioning bodies sudden rule changes and capricious attitudes due to knee jerk reactions and dictatorshiplike tactics. We were promissed an open discussion environment and we are once again dealt a fixed hand which is probably going to cause amateurs and newcomers to shy away from our sport. We will not be an instrument to the decostruction of rallying in the US or anywhere else in the world. I knew hiring ex SCCA aparatchiks would be a mistake and I have been called a shit-stirrer for voicing my opinion about it. Guess what I was right (again). I would like to know who else is sharing our feelings. Fire away. Cheers M.Samli https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,174#msg-174 Tue, 07 Apr 2026 04:06:58 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,216#msg-216 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,216#msg-216
What's strange is in this thread......

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=7536&sid=68d56edc649b8533a0b3b13209c44bf2

At the bottom we've got Mark B. "NASA Scrutineer" says one guy's plan is OK and then right below Ivan Orisek "NASA Rally Sport Scrutineer" says he's totally wrong. So scrutineers are disagreeing? Great.... what a clusterfuck.

And it all gets back to the original point. What's wrong with the metal case my fuel cell is already in. Just because the filler is bolted to the top of the box???

]]> Skye Rally Chat Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:05:32 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,215#msg-215 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,215#msg-215
]]> Skye Rally Chat Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:39:28 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,210#msg-210 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,210#msg-210
They shouldn't let a baboon do the welds. My doors have the one single long and 2 short bars that do the X door bar and they are welded fine.

I really don't feel like cutting those off and re doing the thing.

So who wants to piss me off by talking shit against recce ?
Recce is goooood, recce is your friend, enbrace your recce.


Cheers
M.Samli]]> sagsert Rally Chat Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:37:52 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,208#msg-208 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,208#msg-208
Check out the Seed9 headline under CRS over at the SS.cum.

Soon they are gonna try to declare us traitors.

I want the power hungry midwesterner to resign and never open his pie hole ever again. Maybe then I may reconsider doing RA events.

I was told that they approached 2 competitors to ask for their help with 2 RA rallies and they both sair "Pound Sand". Not only they are gonna lose entries (read $$$) they are also losing experienced volunteer/competitors.

Cheers
M.Samli]]> sagsert Rally Chat Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:33:16 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,201#msg-201 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,201#msg-201 First Post, just found the site, and am loving it. its Schutzstaffel.com, with out the fuckin' censorship, and annoying people that bore everyone.

Cheers

Taro]]> Taro Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:14:33 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,198#msg-198 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,198#msg-198
But tell me why is it that the Rotary Club insists on using a fucking cam gear for their logo when the rest of the world damn well knows that a rotor is triangular ?

Although I'm sure Felix Wankel would be greatful to the rotary club today for imortilizing his invention with a pseudo respectable organization.

Cheers,
M.Labo]]> Morten Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:04:36 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,197#msg-197 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,197#msg-197 -------------------------------------------------------
> Nope, you still get the FLEAS.
>
> Click on this for academic purposes you may learn
> something.
>
>
>
> Cheeeeers
> M.Samli
Damn that was awfully polite. And uncalled for, too.
This is rallyanarchy, a proper response would have been to really chew his ass all the pieces for presuming to tell you history..

I want you to go back and try it again, or go stand with your nose in the fuckin corner!!!


]]> john vanlandingham Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:57:30 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,196#msg-196 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,196#msg-196
Click on this for academic purposes you may learn something.

http://www.goldenhorn-rotary.com/ercu/ERCU_FLASH_eng.html

Cheeeeers
M.Samli]]> sagsert Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:49:34 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,195#msg-195 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,195#msg-195
That area that defines Turkey today was part of the Persian Empire, just a few years ago. Well 2600 years ago... not that long ago.

"The Persian Empire occupied the area in the 6th century B.C., giving way to the Roman Empire, then later the Byzantine Empire. The Ottoman Turks first appeared in the early 13th century, subjugating Turkish and Mongol bands pressing against the eastern borders of Byzantium and making the Christian Balkan states their vassals."

Instead of sending fleas, you could spend your time painting your rally car to look like a rug.

: )

]]> Morten Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 18:27:22 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,193#msg-193 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,193#msg-193
We have nothing to do with them, never did (yeah we fought againt eachoteher a few hundred years but that's no biggy) we hopefully never will.

Cheers
M.Samli]]> sagsert Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:55:40 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,192#msg-192 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,192#msg-192
Then again, it was nice to have the CARS President take the time to sit down, explaining the timing cards, etc... with us. Then at the end of our first rally for him to walk over and pat us on the back for finishing felt pretty decent.

Personally I find the rally environment North of the 49th pretty decent. Can't speak by personal experience on the South of it, but from what I read... it speaks for itself.

Since you're a Turk, you may feel more at home in our neck of the woods in North Vancouver. The Persian community is 50,000+ in one district.

Wasn't Turkey part of that little Empire a few years back ?]]> Morten Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:23:10 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,189#msg-189 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,189#msg-189 The V style for your door beams. Because someone heard from someone somewhere that a V bar done with one straight bar and two cut bars was in a car involved in a side impact and the weld broke and speared the guy in the leg, so now they recommend against doing it with that method and probably will require the V bar style door bars.]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:12:55 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,188#msg-188 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,188#msg-188 And, recce makes a codriver's job much more fun. Routebooks only are okay (I mean that's all they use in Finland for Group F) but you have to be ready to trash the car more often if you want to really push it and win. Or get really good at recovering it.]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:02:50 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,187#msg-187 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,187#msg-187 -------------------------------------------------------
> I am not intending to run any RA rallies in 2006.
> In addition I have confirmation that Cem Akdeniz
> (STi GrN), Cemal Balat (DSM Open), Hakan Okcuoglu
> (DSM Open), Murat Okcuoglu (Starion Gr5) BTW this
> is the whole STC (Sporting Turks Club) and even
> maybe Burak Tuglu (323 ProductionGT) will not be
> competing in RA rallies

Sounds like some sorta sleeper cell... I'm telling!!

(Unless you show me around the Turkey rally scene after I get some driving experience)

Skye
]]> Skye Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:38:36 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,186#msg-186 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,186#msg-186 ]]> Skye Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:28:57 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,176#msg-176 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,176#msg-176 I don't know if you've seen Aaron's comment about Great Lake's know it all's, but that's a common joke we have around here (and obviously doesn't apply to all Great Lakes region people). The main people running SCCA and RA in terms of operations and rules process are based in that region and believe themselves to be an ultimate authority. My hand's down personal favorite belief they hold is that a blind rally is safer than a recce rally. Oh, and I've heard opinions too that all non-national events should be route book only.
That being said, we're not running any RA events except Cog, and we'll stick to stock fuel tanks from here on out.]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:14:49 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,174#msg-174 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,174,174#msg-174
We will not yield to sanctioning bodies sudden rule changes and capricious attitudes due to knee jerk reactions and dictatorshiplike tactics. We were promissed an open discussion environment and we are once again dealt a fixed hand which is probably going to cause amateurs and newcomers to shy away from our sport. We will not be an instrument to the decostruction of rallying in the US or anywhere else in the world.

I knew hiring ex SCCA aparatchiks would be a mistake and I have been called a shit-stirrer for voicing my opinion about it. Guess what I was right (again).

I would like to know who else is sharing our feelings. Fire away.

Cheers
M.Samli]]> sagsert Rally Chat Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:33:53 -0600