http://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/product/detail.cfm/nid/219/pid/206 In trying to come up with the cheapest way to get to my first rally this year, I was wondering how the RV guys do it, so a quick web search comes up with the above link/product. Under $300 and over 5,000 lbs....sounds pretty good to me. Sure, the rally tires get a little worn on the longer trips, but shit, for saving me over $3K for a full size trailer, that's a lot of tires. Plus, with all that extra trailer weight gone, MPG's are going to go up too. Thoughts? downsides I'm not considering? [img]http://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/content/product/small/roadmaster-tracker-tow-bar.jpg[/img] same price range, seems a little more beefy, and includes the safety cables. http://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/product/detail.cfm/nid/219/pid/882 [img]http://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/content/product/small/kwiktow_small.jpg[/img] https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26217#msg-26217 Sun, 05 Apr 2026 12:12:57 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26445#msg-26445 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26445#msg-26445 -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Just tell them that you have a Ford
> Expedition. A
> > lot of the attendants don't know the
> difference.
> >
>
> When i was renting the trailer before heading to
> sandblast this year, they handed me a pamphlet and
> if i remember correctly made me sign a waiver
> saying I wont be towing with a ford explorer for
> the first time this past february. I didnt
> understand why but assumed it was related to some
> lawsuit.
>
>

I have had to sign the same waiver. Luckily I can borrow the father-in-laws Dakota when I need to tow.
]]> NGTD Rally Chat Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:22:25 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26357#msg-26357 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26357#msg-26357 > Just tell them that you have a Ford Expedition. A
> lot of the attendants don't know the difference.
>

When i was renting the trailer before heading to sandblast this year, they handed me a pamphlet and if i remember correctly made me sign a waiver saying I wont be towing with a ford explorer for the first time this past february. I didnt understand why but assumed it was related to some lawsuit.

]]> turoc Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:30:33 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26354#msg-26354 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26354#msg-26354
Never pulled out the drivesahft (it was RWD, not AWD), but trannie was fine. Some AWD trannies have a driven oil pump that may not be driven by the output shaft when in neutral; that is the #1 thing I would check on. #2 would be to see if the center diff was effected....or just pull the center driveshaft. (And I would write to Randy Zimmer before anyone else on those topics for Subie.)

Good luck!

Mark B.]]> starion887 Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:45:14 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26349#msg-26349 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26349#msg-26349 -------------------------------------------------------
> Oh, and U-Haul won't let you tow anything with a
> Frod Exploder anymore...something about exploding
> rear tires and liability. An 88 4Runner 4 cylinder
> to tow a car hauler? Sure! a 2003 V8 towing
> package Exploder? Nope.
>
> Brilliant minds all round there.
>
> Andrew Steere, 1973
> Lyndeborough, NH
> KB1PJY

This was U-Hauls way of "punishing" Ford because U-Haul was involved with one of the wrongful death claims from the Firestone tire thing. They don't even restrict it to the correct era of Explorers. I have a 98 that is actually one of era involved.

Just tell them that you have a Ford Expedition. A lot of the attendants don't know the difference.

]]> NGTD Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:09:45 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26319#msg-26319 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26319#msg-26319 -------------------------------------------------------
> I rent UHaul all the time even going to rallyx. (2
> years ago fuel pump went at the event so rented
> since) I too have storage issues. Even though
> sometimes they fawk up with the reservation I
> always am able to at least pick up a dolly from
> them. Not a big fan of the dolly = if windy and
> doing 85-90 on I95 or I87 not fun!
>
> if i had storage i would buy this:
>
>

not too shabby for the price.

I COULD store the trailer in a couple places nearby me...I live IN the Presidio (yup, that place from the movie 'The Presidio')...anyway, LOTS of big parking lots, etc...you could park your car in some of the bigger lots for a month and no one would care, but a trailer? I'm not so sure. there's also open parking at the end of my street...which is where the rally car will live just fine...but a car on a trailer? might attract the federal po-po...guess I should re-read my lease.
]]> Jon Burke Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:09:45 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26317#msg-26317 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26317#msg-26317 tmachnik Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:57:48 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26311#msg-26311 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26311#msg-26311
Would U-Haul rent McRae's corpse a helicopter? ;-)


]]> tedm Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:45:27 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26309#msg-26309 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26309#msg-26309
Brilliant minds all round there.]]> fiasco Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:13:01 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26298#msg-26298 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26298#msg-26298
1) You MUST always use a UHaul Service Center. These are the hub locations which generally will rent trucks, trailers, sell packing supplies, etc. I bet much of the contradictory Uhaul info out there comes from the independent Uhaul places which generally do their own thing, usually theres are mechanics or gas stations that will also rent Uhauls. Avoid the indpendent places unless you know the people personally.

2) Always call your local Uhaul center direct to make reservations, don't use the 1800 number.

3) Even if you have a reservation to pickup a trailer at the local center, don't assume it will be there when its time to pickup. Often times the trailer you reserved being available is contigent on someone else bringing it back on time. So, its not too uncommon if trailers are in short supply that there won't be one at your site. In that case you will have to drive to another local Uhaul center to get it. In populated areas this generally is not a big deal. Call first to make sure your trailer is at your location before you leave!

4) Inspect the trailer before taking it, e.g. check the brake fluid. I once found that the trailer they were trying to give me had no brake fluid..not a good thing.

5) The first time you rent, make sure they are ok with your tow vehicle. I've had no problems getting trailers with my F150. They will generally require a proper tow hitch, Class III or greater (a ball in bumper is no good), and a four prong lighting plug. If your lights aren't wired up, they won't give you a trailer.

6) Avoid using big words when communicating with the hired help. ]]> Eddie Fiorelli Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:02:09 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26292#msg-26292 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26292#msg-26292 -------------------------------------------------------

>
> I rent trailers for multiple days from U-Haul all
> the time, but conflicting info from U-Haul doesn't
> surprise me... \
>

I need to find a new Uhaul place(s)! Every one I called is only 24 hours, but honestly the area I called in was limited. There are SO many I'm sure I could easily find one that would. T

]]> gilbrock Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:28:47 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26284#msg-26284 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26284#msg-26284
dave]]> david amor Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:56:35 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26273#msg-26273 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26273#msg-26273
if i had storage i would buy this:
http://www.econotrailer.com/Open.html
]]> turoc Rally Chat Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:50:47 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26260#msg-26260 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26260#msg-26260
Robert.]]> Rallymech Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:59:59 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26251#msg-26251 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26251#msg-26251 -------------------------------------------------------

>
> That way you dont have to store it and you dont
> have to deal with uHaul, who, last time I checked,
> will not rent for more than 24 hours. But then
> again, every uHaul you talk to will say something
> different. Dont bother with a dolly as you will
> regret buying it - especially when you are
> worrying about whether or not you will lose a
> wheel on the way home.

I rent trailers for multiple days from U-Haul all the time, but conflicting info from U-Haul doesn't surprise me... Dealing with U-Haul sucks in general, but for $50/day it's a good deal. Just make sure to check out the trailer before you drive off the lot.

]]> Erik Christiansen Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:37:48 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26249#msg-26249 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26249#msg-26249
That way you dont have to store it and you dont have to deal with uHaul, who, last time I checked, will not rent for more than 24 hours. But then again, every uHaul you talk to will say something different. Dont bother with a dolly as you will regret buying it - especially when you are worrying about whether or not you will lose a wheel on the way home. ]]> gilbrock Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:19:31 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26247#msg-26247 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26247#msg-26247
Fortunately the subaru is paid off, so I recently bought a new daily driver/tow/service/recce vehicle that's reliably up to the task. I'm not too proud to admit a low-interest parental loan helped me out with that.

anyway, between this tracker bar being pretty cheap, and Uhaul locations pretty available, I think I'm covered.

I'm sure I could find a trailer to 'borrow' here in NorCal once or twice, but didn't want to make a habit of it.]]> Jon Burke Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:05:12 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26246#msg-26246 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26246#msg-26246 tmachnik Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:50:43 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26242#msg-26242 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26242#msg-26242
for me u-haul/penske/ryder is the answer. i could potentially do two rallies a year that have like a 50 mile tow (mt hood & OT). i will probably always drive the car to those as the tow is about as long as a transit. since i will probably only be doing 3 or so other rallies a year at best, no reason to own a tow setup. ]]> DirkaDirkaJack Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:43:22 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26241#msg-26241 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26241#msg-26241
Anders]]> Anders Green Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:29:27 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26236#msg-26236 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26236#msg-26236 david amor Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:11:12 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26232#msg-26232 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26232#msg-26232 -------------------------------------------------------
> Food for thought......some transmitions don't
> lubricate very well when they are coasting in
> neutral without the input shaft turning.
>
> I say U-Haul.
>
> Robert.


ohh, good one. I'll have to look into that, maybe on NASIOC.

yeah, uhaul might be the answer. $50/day ads up quick though....trying to think outside the box.
]]> Jon Burke Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:53:03 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26231#msg-26231 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26231#msg-26231
Two problems I had with U-haul :

One :

Their in house computer program "verifies" the towing vehicles capacity, adds the trailer weight, adds your trailered vehicles weight, does a magical calculation and lets you know if you're in business.

My 74 Colt is too ancient to be part of their whiz program so the pion behind the counter wouldn't take the booking... so off to another location I went and told them it was a 76 Colt and all was fine.

Two :

I should have planned to pick up the trailer a day or 2 in advance before needing it. The location I booked at had a renter not return the trailer in time. So I had to drive 140 KM on the day I needed the trailer to get a different one from another location.

Other than that... U-Haul was great, had great ramps, easy webbed tire surrounds that get racheted down holding the front tires in place.

One trailer was new another one was a worn out POS - but did the job.]]> Morten2 Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:48:05 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26230#msg-26230 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26230#msg-26230 -------------------------------------------------------
>
> UHaul might be the 'insurance', but I thought I
> heard (the last time I rented from them) they said
> they only rent out car trailers now if you also
> rent the Uhaul truck from them too. I'll have to
> double check.
>

I rent from them for every event I do so unless this changed since February they will rent trailers as long as your vehicle is approved. Full size pickups and above are fine.

I know Penske and Budget won't rent trailers unless you also get their truck.

]]> Eddie Fiorelli Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:42:44 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26229#msg-26229 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26229#msg-26229
I say U-Haul.

Robert.]]> Rallymech Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:42:02 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26226#msg-26226 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26226#msg-26226 -------------------------------------------------------
> mack73 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Only downside is if the car doesn't have all
> it's
> > wheels/suspension parts at the end of the
> day
> >
> > 94 Golf
> > www.Mack73.com
>
> Ditto.
>
> If you want to be cheap, get a dolly. Then as
> long as one end rolls you can get er home.
>
> Andrew McNally
> Hamilton, ON
> 29


uh....good call on the 'what if'...hmmm. I don't expect to be driving that 'hard' for the first few rallies. 'Finish first' will be the motto in 2009, but I know you can't guarantee a finish.


do they make dolly's for AWD cars? I guess detaching the back of the axle (4 bolts) before/after a rally ain't too bad. The 2wd dollies I saw were pretty expensive...like, used trailer expensive.

UHaul might be the 'insurance', but I thought I heard (the last time I rented from them) they said they only rent out car trailers now if you also rent the Uhaul truck from them too. I'll have to double check.

]]> Jon Burke Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:20:29 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26224#msg-26224 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26224#msg-26224
Borrow/rent a trailer.]]> Carl S Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:36:55 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26221#msg-26221 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26221#msg-26221 -------------------------------------------------------
> Only downside is if the car doesn't have all it's
> wheels/suspension parts at the end of the day
>
> 94 Golf
> www.Mack73.com

Ditto.

If you want to be cheap, get a dolly. Then as long as one end rolls you can get er home.]]> hudson Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:08:47 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26220#msg-26220 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26220#msg-26220
Remember, getting the car to the event should be the easy part, its bringing the ball home that you should worry about.

:)

Uhaul baby. $50 a day, no questions asked.]]> Eddie Fiorelli Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:07:58 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26219#msg-26219 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26219#msg-26219 mack73 Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:59:48 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26218#msg-26218 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,26217,26218#msg-26218 pikespeakgtx Rally Chat Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:56:01 -0500