Has anyone seen the build specs for the BMW rally cars from back in the late 80's early 90's. Ford did a great job with the Escorts and I'm hoping BMW kept track and published that stuff too. JVL maybe you could chime in? im interested in spring rates and alignment specs. Miller https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31507#msg-31507 Tue, 07 Apr 2026 04:08:16 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31919#msg-31919 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31919#msg-31919 http://mcallen.en.craigslist.org/pts/1405636424.html


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I'm selling the rest of my BMW because my engine screwed up.
I was thinking of buying an engine, but I gave up looking for it.
so I'm pretty much selling everything else
Transmission is fully functional -$300 OBO
Differential - $150
Original rims, they're BBS- $100
Steering wheel is stock
The body has been sitting outside for a while, so it needs a retouch, if anyone wants it.... we'll settle a reasonable price
It is the Racing Dynamics Trim
(956) 784-4179
(956) 781-7341 ask for Beto








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PostingID: 1405636424]]> noypiesky Rally Chat Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:04:08 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31743#msg-31743 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31743#msg-31743 Finding a way to balance a normal life and a stage rally life is not easy. I know my previous relationships with women I've had has not allowed that, though it is totally doable, it takes a special woman.

I still want to start Volvo Cross someday. Like Euro Rallycross but with really simple, basic spec NA Volvo 240s.

One of the reasons I like the BMW as a potential stage rally car is that it's pretty decent out of the box. Looks okay, good dimensions, decent power stock, decent brakes, good clutch LSD with decent final drive is available too.]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:53:52 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31741#msg-31741 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31741#msg-31741
There is a price point in there somewhere and Miller with a neat BMW rally cross car may have more fun at a rally cross then someone with an uber fancy $100K SPGT car at a rally. Miller can drive his car to the event and really needs not spend hrs and hrs organizing, recruiting friends to service, booking hotels, ordering a drum of fuel, finding time to mount 15 tires etc. Flogging a BMW around a field can be a hell of a lot of fun too because one can drive way over the limit with little worry - where at a rally most wisely stick to 9/10 or so because going off into the trees at 70 MPH would hurt.

There is a price point that needs to be met to have the fun but that price point is a lot lower then most of us are lead to believe.

Miller I will look to see about Paul's school and coming down but I think there is a low chance of it.

Derek



]]> derek Rally Chat Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:53:23 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31721#msg-31721 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31721#msg-31721 I also have some big ideas brewing...]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:41:18 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31719#msg-31719 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31719#msg-31719
That is exactly what Draws me to Rally. Everyone has an equal chance, no matter what you drive, or how good the build quality is. I am building probably a middle of the road car, but there will be no reason I can't have as much fun as a guy in a $100,000 Subaru. Road racing, not so much...... I don't plan to be sponsored, or expect to be. Don't really care. My car is plain white, and probably will stay that way.]]> phlat65 Rally Chat Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:49:31 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31713#msg-31713 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31713#msg-31713 -------------------------------------------------------
> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yeah, but I mean the people who legitimately
> think
> > they are better then you if you cannot do any
> of
> > that.
>
> Spending thousands of hours building a car would
> make anyone grumpy, you don't have the cred
>

Who the fuck cares? When people realize that one's money is their own to spend whether its on labor for race cars, street cars, bolt on parts, hookers, booze, blow, Johns Suspension, DMS, Hot Bits, Reigers, RS SP, WHATEVER they spend it on... The world will be a better place. The more people bitch and moan because someone "buys in" to a certain car culture "rally car", drift car", rat rod", "road race," or whatever, the more pathetic it gets. As long as the owners of the car likes what they do, who care's how they got their? The owners certaintly dont... why do all the douche bags?

Oh... and I haven't hired anyone to do anything on my car except the engine machining.




> > BTW, thanks for pointing out that it actually
> IS
> > cheaper to run a newer car, say a impreza RS
> or
> > focus, over an old 2wd car.
> >
> > But SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don't tell anyone..
>
> I don't think I agree.
>
> You pay regardless. If it's buying some super
> overpriced bolt on thingy or fabing something up.
> It's all variations on time and money.
>
> And not all new cars have bolt on shiny rally
> wonderfullness.. does the focus have a bolt on
> rally kit? New cars are way heavy, not really a
> direct cost, but you will spend time/$$$
> lightening or adding more poop to the motor.
>
> Also by the time you put a cage in any shell and
> do suspension turrets and stitch welding and and
> and and.. what's the difference if one needed some
> floor patches?
>
> cheaper was a crappy word. Similar I guess is better. Open class (AWD TURBO) is still way more expensive, but I think Open light, or the newer golfs/focus/Mazda3s, the hunduyi RWD thing (Tiberon maybe? I cant remember what its called) are much better options then my 25 year old corolla, or a merkur. Volvo's I agree they would make good cars (because of the abundance of shells and body panels) if this sport wasnt as expensive as it is. (There IS a degree of quality and image that is REALLY lacking in rally... and that makes it hard to find individual sponsors. No one wants to back a 25 year old car that looks 40 years old and put together with a jackhammer. I don't care if the driver is the prodigal child of Sebastien Leob and Ari Vartinen... it's not going to happen. Remember Marketing? [well maybe not as a lot of people here on RA can't figure out thats what all of Ken Block's videos are.... ] )
>
>
>
> Andrew McNally
> Hamilton, ON
> 29

]]> Dazed_Driver Rally Chat Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:59:18 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31711#msg-31711 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31711#msg-31711 -------------------------------------------------------
> Yeah, but I mean the people who legitimately think
> they are better then you if you cannot do any of
> that.

Spending thousands of hours building a car would make anyone grumpy, you don't have the cred :P

> BTW, thanks for pointing out that it actually IS
> cheaper to run a newer car, say a impreza RS or
> focus, over an old 2wd car.
>
> But SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don't tell anyone..

I don't think I agree.

You pay regardless. If it's buying some super overpriced bolt on thingy or fabing something up. It's all variations on time and money.

And not all new cars have bolt on shiny rally wonderfullness.. does the focus have a bolt on rally kit? New cars are way heavy, not really a direct cost, but you will spend time/$$$ lightening or adding more poop to the motor.

Also by the time you put a cage in any shell and do suspension turrets and stitch welding and and and and.. what's the difference if one needed some floor patches?



]]> hudson Rally Chat Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:53:53 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31709#msg-31709 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31709#msg-31709 -------------------------------------------------------
> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > the biggest bags of douche are driving old
> ass 2wd
> > cars. A lot of drifters, a lot of VW guys, a
> lot
> > of non drifting corolla guys... a LOT of the
> "old
> > car following" people are douchebags. I
> really
> > hate the "If you cant weld/wrench/fab/X/Y/Z
> then
> > you shouldn't own this car" mentality, which
> > unfortunately most of the non new car groups
> > have.
>
> The reason for that is, you will likely go
> bankrupt if you can't do those things and are
> working on an old car.
>
> The new car scene is 99.9% bolt on this and bolt
> on that with no rust repair.
>
> Ever stop and think about it?
>
> Andrew McNally
> Hamilton, ON
> 29

Yeah, but I mean the people who legitimately think they are better then you if you cannot do any of that.

BTW, thanks for pointing out that it actually IS cheaper to run a newer car, say a impreza RS or focus, over an old 2wd car.

But SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don't tell anyone..]]> Dazed_Driver Rally Chat Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:35:53 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31708#msg-31708 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31708#msg-31708 -------------------------------------------------------
> the biggest bags of douche are driving old ass 2wd
> cars. A lot of drifters, a lot of VW guys, a lot
> of non drifting corolla guys... a LOT of the "old
> car following" people are douchebags. I really
> hate the "If you cant weld/wrench/fab/X/Y/Z then
> you shouldn't own this car" mentality, which
> unfortunately most of the non new car groups
> have.

The reason for that is, you will likely go bankrupt if you can't do those things and are working on an old car.

The new car scene is 99.9% bolt on this and bolt on that with no rust repair.

Ever stop and think about it?]]> hudson Rally Chat Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:56:44 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31705#msg-31705 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31705#msg-31705 As you know currently I'm building a 1991 318is for rallycross/auto cross. The first phase was handling and traction. I sourced a set of bilsteins and HR springs (50406) I thought that these may be a little low but the ride height actually remaind almost the same as I had due to stock spring sag. Because the car will be used for both Rally cross and Auto X I can just slow for the rough parts during rallycross and get a good skid plate. For the first phase I also had a 4.10 LSD installed. Greg M installed everything and accommodate for my busy schedule. Phase 2 is steering. So a E36 rack is being installed as I type, this is in work by Greg as well. Phase 3 will be a lightened flywheel and steel brake lines. Then the car will probibly go to Oregon for a proper skid plate at All Wheels Driven in Bend. I've raced with Barrett for a few years now seen his work and trust that he'll come through. Not sure what to do about more power later... I just want to learn how to drive the car at first so I will see. Rally has taught me that reliability and car control ability usually should come before horse power...

My prior Rally cross car was a 1988 VW GTI so it should take a little getting used to. To make up for my lack of time behind the wheel in a RWD car (i had a Trans AM and a Mazda RX7 in highschool 25 years ago but since then all my cars have all been FWD's and Subaru's) to make up for that lack of seat time and to gain skill, I"m taking Paul Eklund's rally/rallycross school the weekend of 10th in Oregon. I've done this school in my VW and I saw a dramatic increase in my abilities after the class.


PHASE 2
I just picked up the car last night from Greg. I sourced a rack from Fosters in the Oregon. The thing about improving parts of your car is that often it reveals short commings in other areas... I'll get to that in a little bit. My first impression is that this was worth every penny. The car feels like it now can properly respond to what I'm doing to the throttle with the steering. the car feels like as I slid the rear and compensate with steering that it doesnt take much effort to get it pointed. A huge confidence inspiring change. There is a bit of a vibration though so Greg will look into it after the driving school in 2 weekends... now for the other areas. With the Springs and shocks installed and the steering up to standards i can corner a lot faster, if I over do it I stay in the throttle let the rear come out and point the wheels where I want it to go and it does it. BUT!!! that means things come up a lot quicker,... things that require a person to slow down and that means Brakes!!! currently when I depress the brakes i feel a shutter comming from the rear and honesty the brakes feel soft. SO my next phase will have to be Brakes (pads and Rotors all around and steel lines for feel and some Dot 4 . i would like to figure out how to bias the brakes more to the rear so i have some more research to do and also figure out if I want to remove the ABS system or just unplug the fuse. The weight of the ABS stuff is probibly no more than 20-30 lbs and it will be a huge undertaking. So I might keep it in for a little but I really need to have more braking effort in the rear to help induce slides. Since we are still figuring out the lightened flywheel situation, I'm going for exhaust to free a few more ponies and get rid of some weight. Not sure if I want to go for a high flow cat and 2.25 or 2.5 in dia. tubing. so any suggestions will be appriciated.

thanks for reading...
I'll keep ya posted...if your interested. ]]> miller3339 Rally Chat Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:22:46 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31683#msg-31683 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31683#msg-31683 -------------------------------------------------------
I was one of
> the first riders of the light rail system - I look
> forward to it growing.

Funny, I'm a big fan of light rail and streetcars. I've researched Chattanooga's history, and the vast majority of the street railway rights-of-way are still in place and owned by Chattanooga Area Rapid Transit Authority which only runs buses and the incline railway. I've even been published in the paper advocating that they be reestablished along with lightrail on the five rail corridors heading out of town.


]]> wvonkessler Rally Chat Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:18:40 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31676#msg-31676 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31676#msg-31676 I was just kidding to by the way. That was the only work related article google found me easily when searching your name. Years of rallying kinda fills the page. :)]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:34:08 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31671#msg-31671 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31671#msg-31671
When the bowling alley closed they also closed a 24hrs Karaoke bar... it was tragic.


]]> derek Rally Chat Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:26:41 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31667#msg-31667 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31667#msg-31667 I thought for sure you were just an oil lover that had tried to halt construction on a public transportation project because it interfered with the income from a nearby parking garage. Haha.]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:26:35 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31660#msg-31660 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31660#msg-31660 miller3339 Rally Chat Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:53:30 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31659#msg-31659 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31659#msg-31659 -------------------------------------------------------
> By the way, is anyone going to answer Miller's
> question? Or just keep going off on tangents?
>


Miller had a question?]]> Doivi Clarkinen Rally Chat Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:25:36 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31658#msg-31658 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31658#msg-31658 -------------------------------------------------------

> Then again, it doesn't have that strange devoted
> following that VW's somehow have.
>

Oh, you wanna make a bet?
]]> Doivi Clarkinen Rally Chat Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:13:29 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31656#msg-31656 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31656#msg-31656 -------------------------------------------------------
> Some tame links on my efforts...
> Typically it is easy to dislike people you do not
> know or understand,now that I have meet with local
> groups I am now on good terms with the community
> and we are working together for the common good in
> the area.
>
>
> See me go at:
> www.11tenths.com
> In the long run Reality always wins.

> Edited 1 times. Last edit at Oct 1, 2009 by
> derek.

Wow that's you Derek... sad to see Sunset go though. You breaking ground any time soon, I drive by it everyday and with all the graffiti and general disrepair - it looks really bad :(

]]> mack73 Rally Chat Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:05:26 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31648#msg-31648 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31648#msg-31648 -------------------------------------------------------
> This site claims it's different.
>
>
> From what I've seen in pics, looks like the E36
> has multilink rear instead of the semi-trailing
> arm style on the E30 and Z3 coupe things.
>

The E36 318ti is basically the same rear as a E30. They couldn't fit the spare tire and the fuel tank under the car with the multilink stuff in the way.

One of my friends is involved with road racing a E30 and the shop where he does his work also races E36s, and according to what he's seen, it LOOKS LIKE the shells are similar enough that you can swap suspension from one generation to the other. And that it looks like the weirdball one-off-for-everything E30 M3 front suspension was just a preview of the E36, so maybe you can put together a home grown E30 M3 by junkyarding parts from an E36.

Lots of "I think" and "maybe" and "he said" because I haven't done it myself, and if I haven't done it myself then I don't know for sure and I won't say definitively. I know this is against Internet Regulation where hearsay turns into hardcore proven fact but there you have it.

My next car will probably be an E30, given how rare/expensive RX-7s are getting, so I'll have this firsthand knowledge someday, hopefully not very soon...]]> Pete Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:15:28 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31645#msg-31645 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31645#msg-31645
http://www.yelp.com/biz/sunset-bowl-seattle

http://www.seattlepi.com/business/346126_sunset05.html
http://www.myballard.com/2009/04/27/building-replacing-sunset-bowl-gets-green-light/

Typically it is easy to dislike people you do not know or understand,now that I have meet with local groups I am now on good terms with the community and we are working together for the common good in the area.
]]> derek Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:54:05 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31644#msg-31644 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31644#msg-31644 -------------------------------------------------------

> I can't explain it, but there is something I
> intrinsically do not like about the E30s though.
> Bill Caswell's that he entered Ojibwe and Rally
> Colorado in he bought built for $500.
>

I wound up randomly crewing for Bill's E30 318i at Ojibwe after Paul attacked a boulder on the practice stage.

While I was a little too amused at the situation to ask him a whole lot about the car, I do have some 2nd hand info on his fairly basic setup. Like Grant said, it was a $500 craigslist special he bought a few weeks before the event, and he built the cage and everything himself. For suspension, he was running Bilstien HDs with Ground Control coilovers and top hats. He was running some Eibach 2.5"ID springs... he had a dozen or so different springs with varying length and rates in the service van from road racing. I didn't ask directly, but I'm pretty sure the rates were close to the 2x rule. He had massive open class tires on that thing, so I'm sure it was just skating over the gravel anyway. At the first service I dropped his pressures down from 42psi, and he said the car handled a bit better after that ;-)

I was impressed with how the car held up with so little prep. It finished it's first rally without even a skidplate, or a working odometer! And from looking at Colorado's results, he finished quite well there despite the little motor hemorrhaging oil. He said he has some plans for an S14 motor and some fancy-pants 6-speed.... it will be quite the terror with power.

The non-pretty E30 shells are getting quite cheap these days, so it'd be easy to accumlate some parts cars and make it a fairly viable RWD option.

-Matt


]]> RallyxPOS13 Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:48:58 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31643#msg-31643 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31643#msg-31643 http://www.tonigardemeister.com/galleria_bmw2006z.jpg]]> Carl S Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:42:35 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31640#msg-31640 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31640#msg-31640 http://www.zvolution.com/Z3Faq/suspension/suspension.htm

From what I've seen in pics, looks like the E36 has multilink rear instead of the semi-trailing arm style on the E30 and Z3 coupe things.]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:19:16 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31638#msg-31638 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31638#msg-31638 pikespeakgtx Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:10:47 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31635#msg-31635 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31635#msg-31635 Andrew_Frick Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:30:31 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31632#msg-31632 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31632#msg-31632 -------------------------------------------------------
> Wilson I plan to make a return to RWD with my next
> rally car, it will likely be a BMW and as I am
> over 40 now, work in a fancy pancy job as a real
> estate developer I might as well have a car for
> douchbags cause a lot of people think I am one.
> All you need to do is read the local alternitve
> papers and local blogs to hear all about my
> aledged evil ways.


Links or it didn't happen.
>
>
>
>
>
> See me go at:
> www.11tenths.com
> In the long run Reality always wins.


]]> john vanlandingham Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:53:33 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31630#msg-31630 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31630#msg-31630 -------------------------------------------------------
> Wilson I plan to make a return to RWD with my next
> rally car, it will likely be a BMW and as I am
> over 40 now, work in a fancy pancy job as a real
> estate developer I might as well have a car for
> douchbags cause a lot of people think I am one.
> All you need to do is read the local alternitve
> papers and local blogs to hear all about my
> aledged evil ways.

Ah, a true yuppie rally car. ;)


]]> wvonkessler Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:01:36 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31629#msg-31629 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31629#msg-31629 I despise Neons and think it's the largest trailer park chick car ever. But damn if I'm not really stoked everytime Lauchlin's getting near while driving it.

Then again I drive a trailer park white trash right wing racist red neck car.]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:52:43 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31628#msg-31628 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31628#msg-31628


]]> derek Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:38:36 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31627#msg-31627 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,31507,31627#msg-31627
There are a lot of douche's driving subarus... but the biggest bags of douche are driving old ass 2wd cars. A lot of drifters, a lot of VW guys, a lot of non drifting corolla guys... a LOT of the "old car following" people are douchebags. I really hate the "If you cant weld/wrench/fab/X/Y/Z then you shouldn't own this car" mentality, which unfortunately most of the non new car groups have.

By the way, is anyone going to answer Miller's question? Or just keep going off on tangents? ]]> Dazed_Driver Rally Chat Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:16:25 -0500