Anywhere near this fun to watch. https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32607#msg-32607 Sun, 05 Apr 2026 14:13:20 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32691#msg-32691 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32691#msg-32691
Yes very interesting stage with the change in feel, we have a some like that here in the NW too, I did a stage on green diamond land that started out fairly fast and was supper narrow and tight at the end. Stillwater is a little like that too, fast and open at one end and many many linked turns at the other.

I tossed out the 50K number because that is what Toni said he spent on the car, most of us could live with Bilstines rather then Rieger, and other economies to cut up to $15k off the price.

For half the price I am sure a Volvo or Xtr4i could do almost the same.

I think Toni shows what fun we could all have (world wide) if we just drove harder in lesser cars. I read so many adds for used cars "$35K Subaru, $90K invested" good god who wants to spend $90k on a depreciating toy. ]]> derek Rally Chat Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:08:58 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32680#msg-32680 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32680#msg-32680 > We've talked of copying it for my car and using a
> Toyota Supra diff, STI uprights and brakes, a
> custom stub shaft for the upright to use Porsche
> 930 CVs which have 4 degrees more articulation
> than the stock Merkur stuff. Would still cost
> less than any off the shelf Ford stuff and would
> give me full control of alignment settings in the
> rear.

I wonder how much power an Audi rearend can handle all on its lonesome.

That looks (superficially, anyway) so much like Audi bits it's not funny. Of course unless you get spendy then you're limited to 3.90 or 4.11 gears if you want to keep the locker diff.

Beat to shit used 4000/5000Qs are so cheap that people buy 'em for the transmissions and scrap the rest.]]> Pete Rally Chat Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:20:48 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32675#msg-32675 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32675#msg-32675 -------------------------------------------------------
> For me I do not think I have ever seen anything
> better then
>
> under G videos -
> SM Kouvola rally 2006 SS 1
>
> Driving a car we all could realistically build in
> our own garages if we were willing to spend the
> $50K or so in parts. No magical bits, just a
> normal rally car going flat out.
>
> Not that any of us would ever go this fast!
>
> See me go at:
> www.11tenths.com
> In the long run Reality always wins.

That is great footage and very interesting to see how the stage changes from fast & flowing to slow & tight with no break, just keeps coming ... Good fun!
]]> SEANT Rally Chat Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:02:18 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32648#msg-32648 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32648#msg-32648
http://www.tonigardemeister.com/ under G videos -
SM Kouvola rally 2006 SS 1

Driving a car we all could realistically build in our own garages if we were willing to spend the $50K or so in parts. No magical bits, just a normal rally car going flat out.

Not that any of us would ever go this fast! ]]> derek Rally Chat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:03:52 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32636#msg-32636 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32636#msg-32636 Thanks]]> tedm Rally Chat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:05:42 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32635#msg-32635 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32635#msg-32635



We've talked of copying it for my car and using a Toyota Supra diff, STI uprights and brakes, a custom stub shaft for the upright to use Porsche 930 CVs which have 4 degrees more articulation than the stock Merkur stuff. Would still cost less than any off the shelf Ford stuff and would give me full control of alignment settings in the rear. Of course, this is pointless to really try to do until I find myself trading times or nearly with Wimpeys, Cody Crane, Lauchlin, or Utecht.]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:14:09 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32633#msg-32633 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32633#msg-32633 -------------------------------------------------------
> Pity it took Ford nearly a decade to do the rear
> suspension fix. So it's just a copy of an existing
> front end, like the early Quattros? HA!
>
> Andrew Steere, 1973
> Lyndeborough, NH
> KB1PJY
Under the Gr A rules they couldnt really change the geometry of the suspension. Only when the WRC rules allowed more freedom is when they went to the lateral link setup, instead of the old trailing arm deal.
]]> Cosworth Rally Chat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:17:10 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32632#msg-32632 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32632#msg-32632
unfortunately, nothing on youtube other than the short clip from 15, so I've got no visual evidence to back me up.]]> Aaron Luptak Rally Chat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:13:45 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32631#msg-32631 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32631#msg-32631 fiasco Rally Chat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:11:32 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32628#msg-32628 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32628#msg-32628 -------------------------------------------------------
> That was Kankkunen with the Ford Escort WRC at the
> 1998 WRC Finland. Those were the days, and that
> was the highest spec Escort before they started
> using the Fockus.

Yep. In the rear they used the huge cast aluminum upright from the front from a '89-90 GpA car, made some links a somple tower in the trunk and low and behold modernised it.

Interestingly I've read a few different places that, as we all know, the "World Rally Car" rules say you can turbo and fourwheeldrive-ize----abd make tunnels and towers "from a car built in a minimum of 25000 indentical cars".
Since earlier Ford had been very vocal about lowering the numbers of cars made to qualify for GpA and GpN, there were only a smidgen over 3,000 or something paltry
Escort Cosworths made---so a LOT of behind the scene horse trading was done to allow the Escort World Rally car to run.



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Man, I'm feeling old that the Ford Cosworth is now a classic rally car.

-e]]> Eddie Fiorelli Rally Chat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:03:23 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32624#msg-32624 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32624#msg-32624


I find this equally fun to watch ,.. ]]> Morison Rally Chat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:28:29 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32621#msg-32621 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32621#msg-32621 -------------------------------------------------------
> looks like an Escort Cosworth, 4wd, 2.0l.

Which is of course an Xratty/Sierra shell with a couple of inches cut out behinf the drivers seat to shorten wheelbase from 102.7" to 100.5". (and Mk V Escort hatch hood, doors and roof.)(Which Ford did to fight the all conquering Lancia Intergrales on asphalt--specifically the tight asphalt like San Remo, Monte Carlo, Corsica)


]]> john vanlandingham Rally Chat Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:26:30 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32620#msg-32620 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32620#msg-32620 phlat65 Rally Chat Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:13:36 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32618#msg-32618 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,32607,32618#msg-32618
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> Anywhere near this fun to watch.
>
>
> Grant Hughes
> www.nocoastmotorsports.net
> Denver, CO

Damn how things have changed. THAT was great., Thanks
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