I guess rallying is not about who sponsors who or who buys what seat. Congrats to ACP for a very smart bit of driving. Well deserved. https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,511#msg-511 Tue, 07 Apr 2026 05:36:56 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,595#msg-595 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,595#msg-595 Skye Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:00:36 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,594#msg-594 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,594#msg-594 John Lane Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:45:11 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,578#msg-578 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,578#msg-578 Kirby Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:07:40 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,573#msg-573 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,573#msg-573 ]]> John Lane Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:02:26 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,572#msg-572 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,572#msg-572
Is this really needed?

"*** is a LIAR!!"
"BITCH PULLED MY HAIR!!"

"That was cuz *** lied"

"Bitch had it coming to her"

----This is great. No need for Jerry Springer when we have it going on right here on Rally Anarchy!!

We damned sure won't see this on the aptly named SS (dot com).

Priceless.......

]]> John Lane Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:01:04 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,571#msg-571 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,571#msg-571
What the fuck was I thinking ? (it must have been a late night post)]]> Morten Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:59:08 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,570#msg-570 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,570#msg-570
In your country it's been tradition of men kissing men on the cheek for years...

Although some cities are starting to ban the tradition :

http://www.qrd.org/qrd/www/world/europe/turkey/kissing.htm]]> Morten Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:47:41 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,569#msg-569 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,569#msg-569
Anarchyyyyy]]> Skye Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:47:29 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,567#msg-567 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,567#msg-567


]]> sagsert Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:12:18 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,563#msg-563 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,563#msg-563
I think you're confusing this forum with another.

]]> Morten Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 02:57:41 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,562#msg-562 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,562#msg-562 I can barely see the road from the heat comin' off of it.
Ah, you reach down, between my legs,
ease the seat back.
She's blinding, I'm flying,
Right behind the rear-view mirror now.
Got the feeling, power steering,
Pistons popping, ain't no stopping now!"

Why don't you guys kiss and make nice, before there's "no stopping" ?

]]> Morten Rally Chat Tue, 31 Jan 2006 02:55:26 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,559#msg-559 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,559#msg-559 -------------------------------------------------------
> Woohoo I think that's the first use of the word
> "LIBEL" in a rally anarchy post, I think you win
> something..............
>
>
>
> ______
> Skye Poier, Puyallup WA
> Early 30s Undercover Canadian evildoer
> 1986 XR4Ti 'GpA replica' almost done...

Yeah and the funny thing is that Mustafa never mentioned the increasingly appropriately named SS.com or everybodys favorite co-driver/"moderator" yet he comes and squaks and complains and the moment he can write in a uncencored manner, the first thing he does is start calling somebody a liar.

Tsk tsk tsk.
I'm can only asssume the shoe must'ave pinched, but I am sure he realises that unlike HE, we won't simply make disappear just to ptresent a terted up view of uninamity.

]]> john vanlandingham Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:21:01 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,555#msg-555 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,555#msg-555
]]> Skye Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:38:49 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,554#msg-554 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,554#msg-554
- Christian
]]> bjorn240 Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:51:41 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,553#msg-553 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,553#msg-553
I will not speculate and/or comment on this any further.


]]> sagsert Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:43:06 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,550#msg-550 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,550#msg-550
You post inflammatory, offensive, incorrect, untruthful, and libelous information on the internet.

You get called on it, with details explaining just where you're wrong.

Rather than apologizing for spreading misinformation, you cry foul because, well, it's just a joke, and you didn't really mean it to apply to any people regardless of specific, unique identifying information you supplied, and after all, you thought that Rally Anarchy was my own personal playground.

You act petulant and demand an apology.

Instead, people laugh at you.

Disclaimer;
Above scenario is fictional, any similarities with actual events or people is coincidential.

- Christian
]]> bjorn240 Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:15:29 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,546#msg-546 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,546#msg-546
Now if you don't have anything, I think an apology would be the best way to handle this without unnecessary complications.
]]> sagsert Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:40:50 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,545#msg-545 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,545#msg-545
- Christian
]]> bjorn240 Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:01:34 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,543#msg-543 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,543#msg-543
>Disclaimer;
>Above scenario is fictional, any similarities with actual events or people is >coincidential.

Obviously you are incapable of understanding what you read. So show me where I lied or apologise.]]> sagsert Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:46:42 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,539#msg-539 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,539#msg-539
Tee hee


]]> Skye Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:12:49 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,538#msg-538 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,538#msg-538 -------------------------------------------------------
> My lies ?

Yes.

> So put your money
> where your mouth is and tell me when the fuck you
> heard me lie.

Sure. To wit, I've quoted your prior post:

> You own a forum.

I've demonstrably proven this is false. I'll attribute this misstatement to ignorance and not malice.

> You commited to your sponsor to publish on your
> personal forum a praise after each rally.

Lies. I've made no such commitment. In fact, if you look at my long history of posts, you'll see that my long-term view of manufacturer involvement in sport is quite balanced, and that I consistently voice the opinion that the sport must primarily meet the needs of the individual competitor, who provides the bulk of the revenue to organizers and sanctioning bodies.

> So you take the article written by your sponsors
> PR department and put it up.

Again, lies. You assume I have something to do with placing the articles on SS.com. Again, you are wrong. And again, as I predicted, Ben has put up a new PR from Rally America, which does reference ACP.

> You know nobody will raise an eyebrow, even if
> they did you'd erase them anyways.

Again, lies and insinuation. The only posts ever removed or edited from SS.com by me have been for personal ad hominem attacks and commercial content in violation of the forum rules. I've never edited or removed a single comment about SRT-USA or any other team I'm affiliated with. In fact, if you actually read carefully, you'd recognize that I even shy away from responding to such posts.

> And to be fair and polite to ACP, by all means
> open a new topic or call me direct at 602 332
> 6411. Here we are congratulating ACP's privateer
> victory.

I've already congratulated ACP in person, and on Specialstage.com and NASIOC. Given that you brought up my responsibilities on Specialstage.com and my personal involvement with specific teams, I'll not stand idly by. Andrew is my friend, I'm sure he'll give me any latitude. And don't try to pretend this somehow impugns Andrew's achievement. After all, you're the one who brought up other teams and individuals in the first place. The least you can do is stand proudly by your lies, since I doubt an apology is forthcoming.

- Christian

Christian Edstrom
New York, NY
Subaru Impreza WRX STi
29


]]> bjorn240 Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:25:50 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,537#msg-537 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,537#msg-537 John Lane Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 13:49:43 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,530#msg-530 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,530#msg-530
Now you are seriously bordering insulting.
If you don't like me, I can live with it, if you call me a jerk, that's fine, but when you call me a liar we will have a problem. So put your money where your mouth is and tell me when the fuck you heard me lie.

And to be fair and polite to ACP, by all means open a new topic or call me direct at 602 332 6411. Here we are congratulating ACP's privateer victory.]]> sagsert Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:27:31 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,529#msg-529 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,529#msg-529 -------------------------------------------------------
> but I am the fairest asshole
> and I don't talk out of my ass.

Your lies, insinuations, and misrepresentations in the prior post would suggest the opposite.

Carry on,
Christian

Christian Edstrom
New York, NY
Subaru Impreza WRX STi
29

]]> bjorn240 Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:19:34 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,528#msg-528 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,528#msg-528 sagsert Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:03:28 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,527#msg-527 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,527#msg-527 -------------------------------------------------------
> Here is a scenario.
> You own a forum.

I don't own any forums. I've been asked to moderate the SS.com forums (only) to increase the signal to noise ratio. It's my hope that as the noise increases here, the need to moderate strictly on SS.com is reduced. SS.com is owned and managed by George Plsek and Jeff Burmeister, and the articles and PR section is handled by Ben Bradley. Forums are moderated by Ben, Jim Konkler, and me.

> You commited to your sponsor to publish on your
> personal forum a praise after each rally.

Ben posts all the PRs we receive. Once he receives a PR from Andrew, he'll post it. How Subaru writes their press releases, perhaps you can discuss with Chris Yandell.

I personally congratulated Andrew as soon as I got out of the car, and he asked me if I remembered when we were in the lead by 45 seconds and blew the motor 6km from the end of the last stage at Voyageurs 2002.

You know Mustafa, I liked you before joining this forum, and any moderation I did was only to keep SS.com within the limits of the user agreement. In fact, I remember an email from you on October 13, 2005 praising me for my even-handed approach. I'm sad to learn after all that my fondness wasn't shared.

- Christian

Christian Edstrom
New York, NY
Subaru Impreza WRX STi (That's a mouthful)
29


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http://www.sno-drift.org/]]> PAddy Rally Chat Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:05:54 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,521#msg-521 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,521#msg-521
As for the SS article I figure some one is allready trying to Kiss Subaru's ass, as don't you know they are going to save rally in NA again.... Oh wait they didn't save it the first time...Hmmm...]]> GB Rally Chat Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:24:25 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,520#msg-520 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,520#msg-520 -------------------------------------------------------
> No mention in the article on special stage of the
> winner, just praise to the Subaru team for 2nd and
> 4th! What gives?

Oh come on. Don't you know that the masses don't care about the privateers, they just want to read about the big-time big-names?

At least, that's the take the import ragazines have, when they tell us all about the incredible times X racer had with his super shiny new-chassis megabling ride, and not mentioning that he was 3rd place, losing to a couple guys running beat-up old Starlets out of their garage with spare beer money...


]]> Pete Rally Chat Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:06:53 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,519#msg-519 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,511,519#msg-519
You own a forum.

You codrive for a fctory team.

You just got your ass handed to you by a privateer.

You commited to your sponsor to publish on your personal forum a praise after each rally.

So you take the article written by your sponsors PR department and put it up.

You know nobody will raise an eyebrow, even if they did you'd erase them anyways.

Disclaimer;
Above scenario is fictional, any similarities with actual events or people is coincidential.


]]> sagsert Rally Chat Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:02:07 -0600