Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? Before I slave away at a cage I wanted to know if there are any shops/people/shacks in Ontario that do cages for a reasonable price. I need the cage to pass CARS tech. Thanks, https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87047#msg-87047 Wed, 08 Apr 2026 08:09:43 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103999#msg-103999 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103999#msg-103999
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NoCoast
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MattP
More along the lines of $4.50/ft DOM, a B pressure welder, Structural Engineer, Myself a hydraulic bender,a notcher and a couple of weekends :up:

You can do all the profiles with a chop saw and grinder if you are willing to put in some time.
But a stick of remnant ERW in 1.75" and practice a bunch of 10-40 degree profiles on that before you build a cage. And a piece of soapstone.

Do I need to make a how to video?

Or I could just throw it on a trailer drive down to Denver have a cage built and a video made, 2 birds 1 cage !!!]]> MattP Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 21:07:33 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103998#msg-103998 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103998#msg-103998 Snidewhips Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 20:39:15 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103997#msg-103997 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103997#msg-103997
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MattP
More along the lines of $4.50/ft DOM, a B pressure welder, Structural Engineer, Myself a hydraulic bender,a notcher and a couple of weekends :up:

You can do all the profiles with a chop saw and grinder if you are willing to put in some time.
But a stick of remnant ERW in 1.75" and practice a bunch of 10-40 degree profiles on that before you build a cage. And a piece of soapstone.

Do I need to make a how to video?]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:52:24 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103996#msg-103996 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103996#msg-103996 MattP Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:46:32 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103995#msg-103995 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103995#msg-103995 Snidewhips Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 18:51:25 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103994#msg-103994 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103994#msg-103994
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Snidewhips
by whom matt? going rate is 3500 ish for dom, i'm assuming youre going 4130?

Unobtainium Welding, based in Langdon. www.higherarcing.org

I've decided not to go that route.]]> MattP Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 17:48:10 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103993#msg-103993 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103993#msg-103993 fiasco Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 16:53:33 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103992#msg-103992 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103992#msg-103992
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“It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When
you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay
too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you
bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The
common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a
lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well
to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will
have enough to pay for something better.” John Ruskin

Next, if you want a cage, built with as much interior room as possible, with more than the minimum safety in mind, and the ability to preserve the core of your tub along with the assurances it will be done on time, by an experienced person, using appropiate materials and billed at the price quoted when you agreed, then your best bet is to find a shop with a good reputation for building cages and pay their price.

But...If it is acceptable to you to skimp on any of those aspects, then expect the shop to skimp on additional aspects and not always tell you.

Or, do it yourself. It usually takes experience with about three cages for someone to start getting a sense about how to design a cage so that it works better than bare minimum.

A high price doesn't always mean it's a great cage. But it's hard to get a quality part for a bargain basement price. The few times I've heard of that happening, it's only because the cage was a small portion of an entire car build all done by the same shop.]]> modernbeat Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:19:27 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103991#msg-103991 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103991#msg-103991
I am not sure you are going to find anyone in Ontario that would do a good cage for less than what he charges.]]> NGTD Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:05:22 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103990#msg-103990 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103990#msg-103990 I've helped "fix" two wrongly done cages and had three others that were unfixable ie. cut it out.

I know at least one former cage fabricator that figured the price had to go over $4-5K to justify the time it took compared to the other projects he was working on. Automotive service pays well. We subsidize our cage building now by hopefully gaining some retail sales, tire mounting, etc. to our cage customers. We should charge more based on the man hours that come in. Luckily none of the three of us charge anywhere near what we make hourly in our other pursuits. Today I'm double dipping and have machines doing work for me across the parking lot while I'm working on three different cage projects. And I'm stealing labor by having Mark work on CAM stuff for cage feet so that we can use the CNC/mill for cutting cage feet. The machines are capable are generating around $2000 per hour in retail revenue, the entire day of cage work might get a quarter of that.]]> NoCoast Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:55:54 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103989#msg-103989 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103989#msg-103989
A person who will work below market rate probably is missing one or more of the above attributes: skills, tools and or experience.

In my mind what this then boils down to is the probability of getting a quality product.]]> Rallymech Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:38:14 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103985#msg-103985 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103985#msg-103985
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Rallymech
You get what you pay for.

Nonsense Robert and you know it...
Some of the most expensive cages what you got in the past might be silcone caulking to close the gap at the unwelded portion ------but those guys were awesome---- or you got an exxxtra coat of clear "cause that really makes the interior look bitchin"...
Or tubes not accomplishing a single thing towards safety or reliability, but jacking the cost...

No connection at all between quality and price.
Reputation. or ..bullshit and price yes.]]> john vanlandingham Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 11:24:11 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103984#msg-103984 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103984#msg-103984 Snidewhips Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:59:46 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103983#msg-103983 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103983#msg-103983 Rallymech Rally Chat Sat, 24 Jan 2015 10:51:57 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103976#msg-103976 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103976#msg-103976 MattP Rally Chat Fri, 23 Jan 2015 22:34:14 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103975#msg-103975 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103975#msg-103975 fiasco Rally Chat Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:41:36 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103974#msg-103974 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103974#msg-103974
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Carthik
Bringing this back from the dead too.

New car, still need a cage. Who has a shed, and likes beer? And pizza?

I'm still calling around to the major "shops", but there has to be some drunken master cage builders out there in or around the GTA. A $4000 cage isn't an option for me, lol.

Cheers,

Carthik

Yeah it's gotten out of hand this cage stuff. People are charging now "what the market will bear" and the connection between time and materials is out the window..
I'd contact "CAGETHIS" in the metro Boston area, guy seems straight and does what looks klike good work to a fair price.]]> john vanlandingham Rally Chat Fri, 23 Jan 2015 19:58:57 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103971#msg-103971 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,103971#msg-103971
New car, still need a cage. Who has a shed, and likes beer? And pizza?

I'm still calling around to the major "shops", but there has to be some drunken master cage builders out there in or around the GTA. A $4000 cage isn't an option for me, lol.

Cheers,

Carthik]]> Carthik Rally Chat Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:29:21 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87217#msg-87217 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87217#msg-87217
Thanks

Ryan Huber
Rally/Race Developments Inc.]]> RyanHuber Rally Chat Wed, 14 Aug 2013 07:19:55 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87098#msg-87098 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87098#msg-87098
Ones I know of that are probably reasonable:
Hot Bits/Tonik Motorsports, try Peter Reilly
Rally/Race Developments, Ryan Huber
Ronnie O'Brien(?), I don't know much more about him but he did the Juggernaut Focus cages and they seem to be pretty good. Contact the Juggernaut guys, Andrew Kulikowski or Gary Sutherland

Ones that I know of which may be more expensive, but YMMV:
Four Star Motorsports
Can-Jam Motorsports
CSC Racing (not sure if they do CARS cages, usually they do other series from what I know?)]]> AlexeiS Rally Chat Sat, 10 Aug 2013 22:03:48 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87073#msg-87073 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87073#msg-87073 need the cage to save your life. Passing CARS tech is a bonus.

:)

Sorry, I have no recommendation for a cage builder. My favourite is a long way away from you. But does the North American Cage Builder Map help?

Simon]]> simoniac Rally Chat Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:02:29 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87071#msg-87071 Re: Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87071#msg-87071 need the cage to save your life. Passing CARS tech is a bonus.

:)

Sorry, I have no recommendation for a cage builder. My favourite is a long way away from you. But does the North American Cage Builder Map help?

Simon]]> simoniac Rally Chat Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:01:15 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87047#msg-87047 Affordable Cage Fabricators in the GTA/Ontario? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?1,87047,87047#msg-87047
Thanks,]]> Carthik Rally Chat Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:56:43 -0500