Rally truck idea

Re: Rally truck idea

darkknight9 — Sat, 07 Feb 2015 04:06:27 -0600

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And it's weight bias..just bad.
Correcting understeer was just a throttle stab away..but that didn't help traction when I wanted to go forward...

I hear ya brother. But at least it feels like you are going into the ditch with 'authority' when you plow headlong into the greenery post throttle stab. :)

Re: Rally truck idea

RALLYRS — Sat, 07 Feb 2015 01:34:50 -0600

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Considering there were zero, none, not a single F150 built in 1967, or in 1973, you're going to
have a really tough time putting one on stage...

This is very true.....

I didn't bother to post in this thread before because the OP was very obviously a troll,but yeah 1967 half ton Ford Truck would be an F100.

I had a 1967 F100in the 80's-it was my DD for years-2wd shortbed.
Pulled the 352 boat anchor(but it had some serious low-end and wouldn't die!) and cast iron cruise-o-matic out and built a 429 and C6 for it.

A spooled 9" went in when the spicer 44(before they called them dana's!) with power lock finally grenaded.

Then I went old-school budget prerunner(Before the Brah's with $$$$$ Trophy truck clones came about)on it.. autofab cut and turned beams and dual Dotesch tech shocks in front..nothing fancy.

Rearched the rear springs and added a leaf with upgraded shocks...

Lee manufacturing quick ratio Steering box,and high volumne pump and cooler, a couple beard seats, and art carr type shifter and done!

Truck was reliable reasonably quick for what it was..and i ran it for years in the fireroads above my house and dirt Mulholland as fast as i could.

On paper twin I beam is horrible..big camber and caster change..but it's durable and simple and It just works..

Bill Holmes was my hero back then..I had his old truck on the Ford Electronics poster on my wall.

Would of loved to have my truck set-up like his was..but..I really just had a stockish truck..

And it's weight bias..just bad.
Correcting understeer was just a throttle stab away..but that didn't help traction when I wanted to go forward...

I haven't hit a rally stage yet but I've definitely gone faster on gravel roads in a car than that truck ever went-as decent as it did go for what it was...and I miss it.

Re: Rally truck idea

SteveL — Fri, 06 Feb 2015 22:19:49 -0600

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And you all are forgetting about Bill Holmes, who's been running what is essentially a 1973 F150

I also wonder what you consider to be a 1967 F150?

Considering there were zero, none, not a single F150 built in 1967, or in 1973, you're going to
have a really tough time putting one on stage...

Re: Rally truck idea

tdrrally — Fri, 06 Feb 2015 06:34:36 -0600

ken stewarts s10 v6 turbo awd

i don't recall much body roll and it had lots of traction

Re: Rally truck idea

hoche — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 22:22:44 -0600

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That is a topnotch build! Porblem with it is its made to go thru the dessert fast! STPR is not the dessert and that truck will NOT go as fast as an EVO on a stage road. Perdy piccies wont make the top heavy did i say heavy truck as fast as a rally car in rally car conditons. Rally car conditons meaning guys built over the years the FASTEST car for the conditions and that beatiful built truck does not fall into those conditons. So yes i will take your 6 pac! And if you want i will even anti up a 30 pac if I loose!

Actually, I think that truck was built for rallying, albeit desert rallying (nitpick: it's desert, with one "s". "Dessert" is what you eat after dinner). Jim was pretty quick in it back in the day - I think he was second overall at Prescott one year. Jeff has been alternately quick and midpack, depending on how much seat time he's had recently.

And you all are forgetting about Bill Holmes, who's been running what is essentially a 1973 F150 for years and has embarrassed quite a few Open AWD cars, usually regional guys. A top-notch AWD car with a good driver can usually pull away from him though, and I and a few other guys have been able to beat him on tight and twisty stuff with lowly Golfs and similar things. However, it's kinda rare and takes just the right road conditions. He's got a lot of power and a ridiculous amount of travel, but the thing is massive and weighs 6000lbs or something. And neither his nor Jeff's truck were cheap.

I also wonder what you consider to be a 1967 F150? You can get Ford 9" rears brand new. You can weld on any number of fairly robust suspension bits. You can get a near infinite different kinds of engines of varying quality and HP, all as a bolt-in. You can get quickshifting trannies. You can move the cab forward and back on the framerails, and get all kinds of fiberglass shapes to make it look however you want. So, at what point is it not a 1967 vehicle? For instance, I don't think there's anything left from 1973 on Bill's truck except maybe the framerails. So is it still a 1973 F150?

I'm not a big truck fan, but they do work well in some situations. Do I think that they (or any 2WD car) can keep up with the top-level AWD cars? No. But in the right hands they can put up a pretty good fight.

Re: Rally truck idea

Reamer — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 20:18:08 -0600

Ive always wanted to try Tim Smiths moonshine from moonshiners! Sounds like a deal to me. Okay let me make a few calls to Robbie and see if he is in for a little venture at stpr!lol I wish!

Im all for build what you like. Im just not a truck fan for rally. Dessert racing I would build a truck for sure. Sliding around on back roads not so much. to much body roll for me. Any body compared times from GRC and Gordons trophy trucks? Its not even close racing time wise. GRC would lap the leader in the trucks! Just saying!

Re: Rally truck idea

tdrrally — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 07:31:34 -0600

Re: Rally truck idea

Yellowhammer — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 02:07:36 -0600

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That is a topnotch build! Porblem with it is its made to go thru the dessert fast! STPR is not the dessert and that truck will NOT go as fast as an EVO on a stage road. Perdy piccies wont make the top heavy did i say heavy truck as fast as a rally car in rally car conditons. Rally car conditons meaning guys built over the years the FASTEST car for the conditions and that beatiful built truck does not fall into those conditons. So yes i will take your 6 pac! And if you want i will even anti up a 30 pac if I loose!

Ok, gentlemen's agreement : Your choice of 30pack- (please don't say Stroh's, but I will take it) vs. my 6-pack of moonshine jars or something pleasing and not blindness-inducing lol. Hold out hand without spitting on my own hand, never understood that one...

all we need is to get Robbie Gordon to come to STPR with a truck to take on Diggins or even Miggins, idc ...

Stranger things , they have happened

I would ask double-or-nothing if Robbie is in front but throws it all away by rolling it into a
Pen of hogs and then then punches a photographer and gets in his helicopter and flies to Dover without signing any autographs. Rofl ..

Consult your proctologist..
.. All bets with me are null n void if someone backs over a B-Spec car in a rally truck.. Just sayin

Heeheee. I'd be happy to ship you beer to see this. On Velocity or History channel

, either one.

Re: Rally truck idea

Yellowhammer — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:14:24 -0600

Haha.

Looks like from your list of past toys there that you are crazy enought to do it..

So a Vermont car beats you. So what.

Re: Rally truck idea

MattP — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 21:42:11 -0600

Absolutely zero, ziltch, nada, fellow rally nutters need to keep their hard earned money to go and play themselves!!

Re: Rally truck idea

Yellowhammer — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 21:30:24 -0600

fuck yeah, Sir.

Cyclone or Typhoon interest you ? Darkhorse.

and 2 groups of bitches will be crying foul.. :spin: :awesome:

http://www.gmctyphoonbroker.com/cars/61/1991-gmc-syclone-1-owner-45k-original-miles.htm

OMG where the fuck is my flame-resistant suit, rofl.

How much would you want from me for me to be able to put a sticker on your new rally truck ?

Trucks have been done- 70's ProRally jeeps are cool to me. And some guy back in the day ran a full-size OJ Bronco at something If I saw that right somewhere... I think there was a guy ran Rally de Paris in a Mighty Max or something.. there's tons more.. but with all the spaceage goodies that must be available now... sheeeeeiut. its gotta be crazy. I don't even want to look, like why I do not torture myself by test-driving new cars... cause I'd want it, and I need to focus.

Good luck.

popcorn cookin' ....

Re: Rally truck idea

MattP — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 20:31:09 -0600

All this feistyness has got my juices flowing, fuck it I'm building a rally truck. No seriously I am, 3.0 Ford Ranger bone stock. No fancy lsd, no fancy green shocks no fancy fuck all. Strip it, cage it, rally it, all for the princely sum of less than 10k CDN. Do I give a shit if I'm not on one of the three steps, nope because it's all about the smiles per mile. learnt to drive in a 1100cc Mk1 Escort sideways on dirt, this is the closest I can get for little cost. Fun people thats why we started doing this crazy sport, going sideways without hitting the trees and giggling like a school girl. Thats why we rally!!!

Re: Rally truck idea

john vanlandingham — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 17:41:59 -0600

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Shitty comprehension Grant.
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Comprehension requires reading. Once I see you posting I stop reading typically anymore. It's become the same yelling over and over it seems. I no longer care to comprehend.

Too bad your lack of reading, and attendant lack of comprehension doesn't stop you from blaming people.. Whatever, details..
Like whatever.

Re: Rally truck idea

Yellowhammer — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:56:43 -0600

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I finally looked at this thread. Sigh. John, this is your final warning. Ruin another thread and you will be banned.

Hey Grant, I didn't ruin this thread, I simply asked GENERALLY if anybody gave any thought that this was a made up name and made up thread just for shits and giggles---ya know just like you and some of your friends used to do over on SS.com??

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I understand this now. I thought (and no I was not drinking last night, I thought for a few that JVL was calling ME a troll or a shit-stirrer.. ) I was just trying to take it back down a notch... please. Peace to all.

I respect JVL and his knowledge and experience is undeniable.. but my opinion is that is can COME OFF AS a big mean 'ol internet bully.. and homie don't play that, not me. Don't tell me something I want to do with money I've sweated for is bullshit, if I'm too ignorant or take the advice respectfully and then do it anyway.. no.

Anyone having any 'internet respect for me' is very suspect, because I don't know shit from shinola, compared to a bunch of people on here/or SS for that matter ... I'm ok with that, but hey y'all, let me pick y'alls rally-brains a while occasionally...

cause I'm the guy that is not a millionaire, but wants (back) in badly, damn all the reason-torpedos

..and doesn't EVERY event organizer/ big rally nut want that ?!

ok, yeah, I get a little windy too.

Sincerely,

Yours in Sport,

John Barnett aka YH
256-881-2362 land-line still in use, 8-5 cdt

Re: Rally truck idea

Reamer — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:33:41 -0600

That is a topnotch build! Porblem with it is its made to go thru the dessert fast! STPR is not the dessert and that truck will NOT go as fast as an EVO on a stage road. Perdy piccies wont make the top heavy did i say heavy truck as fast as a rally car in rally car conditons. Rally car conditons meaning guys built over the years the FASTEST car for the conditions and that beatiful built truck does not fall into those conditons. So yes i will take your 6 pac! And if you want i will even anti up a 30 pac if I loose!

Re: Rally truck idea

ALS FTW — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:43:59 -0600

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I didn't ruin this thread...

Thanks for the Billy Joel earworm... argh.

This thread started out ruined because the OP, 'Jake611', didn't bother filling out his(her) real name and location in his(her) profile.
Not to mention 'Vorpal_Rally' also missing the information that adds accountability to his(her) comments.

I've been lurking here for a while, and there is something to be said for not hiding behind 'handles'

Re: Rally truck idea

NoCoast — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:35:42 -0600

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Shitty comprehension Grant.
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Comprehension requires reading. Once I see you posting I stop reading typically anymore. It's become the same yelling over and over it seems. I no longer care to comprehend.

Re: Rally truck idea

john vanlandingham — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:32:06 -0600

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I finally looked at this thread. Sigh. John, this is your final warning. Ruin another thread and you will be banned.

Hey Grant, I didn't ruin this thread, I simply asked GENERALLY if anybody gave any thought that this was a made up name and made up thread just for shits and giggles---ya know just like you and some of your friends used to do over on SS.com??

Then this guy goes all apeshit ranty rant drunken bullshit..unable to imagine that somebody MIGHT be talking to anybody other than him, just wondering out loud..

Shitty comprehension Grant.
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Re: Rally truck idea

tdrrally — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:26:53 -0600

the quality of the work on jeff rados's truck topnotch

http://www.piercemotorsports.com/group-5-truck/

Re: Rally truck idea

NoCoast — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:38:11 -0600

I finally looked at this thread. Sigh. John, this is your final warning. Ruin another thread and you will be banned.

Re: Rally truck idea

Yellowhammer — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 00:14:39 -0600

Rally internet bullshit at its finest.

Do the same shit the same way with the same old cars , or be yelled at by an old hen who camps out 24/7

It's kinda like Cuba in a way... Without Mojitos and dancing.

I am now a truck-fanboy I guess because I said its a good idea. What was I thinking?

good grief.

Later.

Re: Rally truck idea

john vanlandingham — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 22:43:42 -0600

For fucks sake you even read, you DO have a chip on the shoulder and it shows whn you don't see i was referring tp the OP as a possible secret troll , not YOu and you jus keep ranting..
Whateveer.
Go wank about trucks.

Re: Rally truck idea

Yellowhammer — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 22:16:22 -0600

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I'm trolling ? that's funny man. Yes, my secret plan is to lie in wait for years to troll this site and annoy you.. My plan has failed. (or has it?)
RallyMonarchy.com already taken ? I didn't realize we had to raise our hands..
Anyway, wasn't talking directly to you.. if that is allowed, sir.
so, anyway, fap over, ahh. yawn.

> Reamer,

100k Budget (your number) and Robbie (your pick out of any dessert/non-Monster/Rockstar dude) = truck must appear to look like a 67 Ford F-100. 100% RA Legal.

vs.

20k (again not my number) Subaru/Evo? driven by David Higgens (..again not my choice)

at STPR ? not my choice...

yes, 6-pack of (your choice) beer vs. a 6-pack of (my choice) beer ... shipped by (your choice) of Overnight-Delivery.. local laws permiting.

I will take that action..

if only.

Hey, dood, you sure got A BIG FUCKING CHIP ON YOUR FUCKIN SHOULDER that you would do well to lose.
YOU are not the only person on this particular thread, didya notice..?
THERE IS A THREAD STARTER, the "OP", dood...

THAT is who the reference was to, if it is alright with you?

You wanna circle-jerk off all over about some morpodite fucked up truck shit, get some lube and get a room..
But I think the whole thread is ridiculous...

Loose the looking for offense.

Oh Christ, the five whole fucking people in this thread are being yelled at... A thread about an idea.

How dare anyone discuss an idea..

Don't tell me what to do or what to think, please... Or don't get the caps-lock out if you don't like that everyone is not you. I don't have a chip on my shoulder , and again this is a thread about the idea of a rally truck. I think your opinion on that idea is clear , yet still here you are in the ' truck idea ' thread yelling at me cause I think different is good. If I want to rally a goddamn Gremlin with a 2JZ and fwd and coco floor mats and a side-view mirror from a rice rocket , then fuck you very much , I can. That bothers you ? Ok, I don't care. At. All. All advise solicited or not from you ends in an argument it seems -
I could be wrong on that because I do not spend my life online reading all your manifestos.

Hey , Can we discuss if Volvo made a truck, ? and if so , then please import one, put some green shocks on it, and then have someone who is not period- correct and takes this seriously and have them drive it straight up your ass. . Thanks.

Re: Rally truck idea

john vanlandingham — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:13:43 -0600

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I'm trolling ? that's funny man. Yes, my secret plan is to lie in wait for years to troll this site and annoy you.. My plan has failed. (or has it?)
RallyMonarchy.com already taken ? I didn't realize we had to raise our hands..
Anyway, wasn't talking directly to you.. if that is allowed, sir.
so, anyway, fap over, ahh. yawn.

> Reamer,

100k Budget (your number) and Robbie (your pick out of any dessert/non-Monster/Rockstar dude) = truck must appear to look like a 67 Ford F-100. 100% RA Legal.

vs.

20k (again not my number) Subaru/Evo? driven by David Higgens (..again not my choice)

at STPR ? not my choice...

yes, 6-pack of (your choice) beer vs. a 6-pack of (my choice) beer ... shipped by (your choice) of Overnight-Delivery.. local laws permiting.

I will take that action..

if only.

Hey, dood, you sure got A BIG FUCKING CHIP ON YOUR FUCKIN SHOULDER that you would do well to lose.
YOU are not the only person on this particular thread, didya notice..?
THERE IS A THREAD STARTER, the "OP", dood...

THAT is who the reference was to, if it is alright with you?

You wanna circle-jerk off all over about some morpodite fucked up truck shit, get some lube and get a room..
But I think the whole thread is ridiculous...

Loose the looking for offense.

Re: Rally truck idea

Yellowhammer — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 20:17:58 -0600

I'm trolling ? that's funny man. Yes, my secret plan is to lie in wait for years to troll this site and annoy you.. My plan has failed. (or has it?)
RallyMonarchy.com already taken ? I didn't realize we had to raise our hands..
Anyway, wasn't talking directly to you.. if that is allowed, sir.
so, anyway, fap over, ahh. yawn.

> Reamer,

100k Budget (your number) and Robbie (your pick out of any dessert/non-Monster/Rockstar dude) = truck must appear to look like a 67 Ford F-100. 100% RA Legal.

vs.

20k (again not my number) Subaru/Evo? driven by David Higgens (..again not my choice)

at STPR ? not my choice...

yes, 6-pack of (your choice) beer vs. a 6-pack of (my choice) beer ... shipped by (your choice) of Overnight-Delivery.. local laws permiting.

I will take that action..

if only.

Re: Rally truck idea

john vanlandingham — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 19:45:32 -0600

Nobody consider that this is deep-cover trolling?:S

Its ridiculous enough..

What a fap-fest:eyeroll:

Re: Rally truck idea

Reamer — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:45:15 -0600

If yoy think a 100k dessert truck with R. Gordon driving is going to beat Higgins in even an sp Subaru At STPR your dreaming! And I will take that bet any day!

Re: Rally truck idea

Yellowhammer — Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:08:07 -0600

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...... A $100,000 67 f100 still isnt going to beat a 20k EVO on a true gravel stage. Not counting the arizona dessert that thinks its a rally stage.

Heeaaay.

That sounds like a fucking beer-challenge to me ! heehee,
with no real losers on either side of that bet.

All in good fun, but I'm going with the 100k truck every time,
with the caveeeat of who be on the wheel. Robbie ? Ivan ? hmm. how about Pederhansellllll ? Saintz?

Rally Anarchy indeed.

I'm in for a 6-pack. Wish I knew a dessest racer with a 100k rig that could just show outta nowheresville, NV or AZ... to like roll all up in STPR or BRS or Maine and just leave bitches crying into their Sparco hankies...

lovely image.

-LOL in real life

Re: Rally truck idea

Vorpal_Rally — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 21:06:08 -0600

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I wan to take an old 1967 ford f100 and spec it out as rally but also keep very street able as a daily driver. My plan is to keep 2wd with 351w stroked out to 427 with c6 tranny with shift kit. then rip out the i beam superstition and replace with mustang 2 suspension kit. Take the mustang 2 suspension and beef then give it more ground clearance. Can you give me ideas on beef up the mustang 2 suspention

Have you even talked to whichever series' local tech guy about what it is you're trying to build?

Re: Rally truck idea

wvonkessler — Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:30:30 -0600

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What is the list of things keeping say, something like this, ^ from running NASA/RA stuff ?

Nothing - it can.