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        <description>Hello friends,

I'm trying to build a rally car. Its not going well. Its the more round 240, the one from Japan.

To make a long story short, this is cage number two. I'm not having any luck hearing back from the scrutinizers I have contacted.

I know its hard to judge with just a couple of crude photos, but how does it look to you guys? 
The main structure, sill bars, and back stays and harness bar are built with 1.75 x .095 DOM tubing. The rest is 1.5 x .095. It looks to conform to all the rules to my knowledge, but I'm still learning my abc's with this stuff. Some of the welds are a little meh, but they have good penetration.

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            <title>Re: Bersh's 240</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ More than six I would say. Mostly with canisters. Our rallies are rough. Bilsteins are admirable Pogo sticks here. John Vanlandingbucket would be well capable of servicing MCA. I have a customer with MCA + canister  in a GC8 and MCA without canister in a first gen Legacy. There is no comparison.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>autronic</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2015 01:43:21 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Haven't been on in a while - work has been, well, work. It pays for cool rally things but doesn't afford a lot of time for rally things. <br />
<br />
Anyway, I've looked into the MCA suspension bits. The exchange rate is very favorable - like the best it's been since the recession. I just bought some new TRED Pro recovery boards on their Kickstarter campaign. Shipping was included so the only thing that will nail me will be duties. I'll let you know how bad those are when they arrive in April... if I remember.<br />
<br />
The best reason to go with MCA is that just about every Rally-prepped S-chassis in Oz is running them - at least six, certainly more. MCA has developed a pretty impressive time-attack S13 as well. So, they know exactly what you need. However, for a decent set with mounts and springs and no canisters, you're going to spend just over $4200 shipped plus duties. I just got a quote from Mr. Coote a few months ago as I'm in the market for boingers. Those prices John posted haven't changed much.<br />
<br />
A similar set of custom, bolt-in Bilsteins will run you under $4k. However, when you need them serviced, time and postage are going to be very much in favor of keeping them in this hemisphere. Like John said, most people here on the privateer level don't use remote reservoirs. We don't go that fast and our stages aren't that rough. So they're over kill - especially for you right now. <br />
<br />
DOHC KA's can be found cheaply also. In fact, I'd highly suggest finding a running DOHC setup to drop in your car. Get the ECU and everything. Then do a high-comp dual cam KA build with the single slammer you've got there on weekends you're not racing. I might know a guy who can hook you up with a decent parts dual cam KA that you could use for that high-comp project. As long as you don't mind taking a road trip to Michigan or paying for freight... I'm sure you could source stuff locally though.  <br />
<br />
The rears also have some separation issues. I'll dig through some conversations I've had with Dicko Thomas and relay some of the helpful information he shared with me. <br />
<br />
Have you tried reaching out to any of the NASA scrutineers?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
            <category>Construction Zone</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2015 01:44:01 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Bersh's 240</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Your right, thats not going to work well.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>CBersh</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:55:22 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Oh HELL no.  Half the point is that you use a mount design that by nature can't separate.  Even Dodge stopped using that kind of mount in the 60s or 70s, going to &quot;spool&quot; mounts which are stamped clamshells of rubber with a sleeve in the middle... Even if the rubber is completely gone the engine can't move that much.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
            <category>Construction Zone</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:26:29 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Bersh's 240</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I like that. Would that circular bushing thing be the way to go? Or would something like this suffice, <a href="http://s242.photobucket.com/user/bersheim123/media/custom_zpsygwjpzea.jpg.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ><img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff115/bersheim123/custom_zpsygwjpzea.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /></a><br />
Im sure it is not as strong, but the rubber bushings I think are off some old dodge, I dont remember.. but every autoparts store in the country has them stocked for like 3 dollars each. I can just easily build  abox on the frame and then cut the lil brackety thing that the factory mount bolts too... hmmmm]]></description>
            <dc:creator>CBersh</dc:creator>
            <category>Construction Zone</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:41:31 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Yep found a few: during rebuild<br />
<img src="http://acidcow.com/content/img/new01/390/16.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
<br />
With paint:<br />
<img src="http://www.carbuildindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/1121.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
<br />
With a nice engine dropped in place:<br />
<img src="http://www.carbuildindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/1391.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
<br />
This idea is relatively easy to adapt. We've done it on a number of Xratties--copying the works items which I bought a set to see how the did them---16g material!----and on a good ol 510, and on some Volvo 240s and I think some AE86s..<br />
<br />
Skye Poirier, owner of this site on his Xratty:<br />
<img src="http://www.rallyrace.net/jvab/spgm/gal/XRatty/2.3chassirailmounts1.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
<br />
My own YB Cossie 4x4 powered Xratty:<br />
<img src="http://www.rallyrace.net/jvab/spgm/gal/Cosworth_4x4/Cossie_4x4_install03.JPG" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
<br />
A little work, not a lot but it is soooooooooooo nice that the engine sits still and doesn't wag around 45 degrees back and forth...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 15:40:38 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>CBersh</strong><br/>
Mr Martin, <br />
Thank you for your insight.<br />
<br />
I do plan on plating the front strut towers, I was debating trying to tie them into the cage... my cage builder was supposed to do it but then he thought it wouldn't do me any good..... so he sorta refused to do it. The engine bay is my next project.<br />
<br />
I already added a steel plate to the outside of the frame rails along the weaker bit where it curves up at the front, ill try and get a picture of them this week.<br />
<br />
Theres plenty of room with my harness bar. Measurements where taken with me sitting in my seat mounted in the car. I'm not that far forward really, but I do have a long torso and tiny legs..<br />
<br />
I will most certainly contact you with some questions in the future!</div></blockquote>
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Well here's a real simple idea from the great book &quot;Ford Escort rally Preparation&quot; hosted somewhere here: see the little wedge shaped pieces down at the inner chassi rail/firewall junction?<br />
<img src="http://media2.turbosport.co.uk/2008/6/2009051412005583402nwrs3.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
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Dirt simple with a little CAD work--that's Cardboard Aided design<br />
<br />
Here's some in a Capri I was doing:<br />
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<img src="http://www.rallyrace.net/jvab/spgm/gal/Capri/capriGusset01.JPG" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br />
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So simple, out of the way. Notice too the nice engine mounts off the chassi rail rather than the crossmember..<br />
That is extra nice. You get a stable engine and it eases future front end work. Crossmemeber and rack can be whipped out when you smash into something and the engine doesn't need to be touched...<br />
<br />
Maybe I can find a piccie or 3 (hundred ) of the old Toyota Group B celica RWD cars where they did something more or less the same..<br />
Hang on.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:27:33 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Mr Martin, <br />
Thank you for your insight.<br />
<br />
I do plan on plating the front strut towers, I was debating trying to tie them into the cage... my cage builder was supposed to do it but then he thought it wouldn't do me any good..... so he sorta refused to do it. The engine bay is my next project.<br />
<br />
I already added a steel plate to the outside of the frame rails along the weaker bit where it curves up at the front, ill try and get a picture of them this week.<br />
<br />
Theres plenty of room with my harness bar. Measurements where taken with me sitting in my seat mounted in the car. I'm not that far forward really, but I do have a long torso and tiny legs..<br />
<br />
I will most certainly contact you with some questions in the future!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>CBersh</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2015 12:11:49 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>MRWmotorsports</strong><br/>
Hi Chris,<br />
<br />
a couple of comments. These 240's are pretty prone to bending where the front clip attaches to the firewall, they get soft, rot, and bend.  You really should consider plating the top of the front struts and tieing  them into the cage. You should also consider plating the inside, or outside (easier) of the frame rails from in front of strut tower, right back to underneath the drivers seat... all in one piece.  Adds some weight yes, but also a lot of strength.<br />
<br />
Depending on how you attach your skid plate, and if you intend to jump.. of course you do! - you might want a bar going from the front of the strut tower to the frame rail directly above where the skid plate attaches. My skid plat attaches to the original tow hooks, when I land hard it bottoms out, and pushes the whole front end in front of the strut towers &quot;up&quot;... I used jack stands hard-wood, and the front bucket of  a back-hoe to bend it back down, and welded in said bars.<br />
<br />
You cage is interesting design.. one tech inspector said it's allowed, good!  I'd hate to see you have to do version 3!  Seat mounts look good, nicer than mine, I had to do the same floor mods to make room for a rally seat...<br />
<br />
Your harness bar is odd, look to me like it's going the wrong way, usually they are behind the main hoop. If that were my car there wouldn't be room for the seats, you and co-driver must both be short.  You main hoop must be further back than mine... or you haven't tired the seats yet!<br />
<br />
I've been using John's 40mm struts for 8 years. I've bent a shit load of inserts, but done around 45 rally's. I'd get the 50mm ones and I doubt bending would be a problem.  The rears are 50's and are reasonably cheap. I've bent a few, but only when I bend some links... which I also make myself.<br />
<br />
Use whichever engine is cheap to get started.  When you are going as fast as you can with that, then get the SR20DET... awesome motor, easy swap, cheap... I've run the same motor for 8 years.<br />
<br />
I don't come on here much these days, in fact I think this is the first message I've posted in well over  a year... if you want to ask me any specific questions, email me   martin  At   qnx   DOT  com.  <br />
<br />
-Martin.</div></blockquote>
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Maybe its time for some 50s for you, too?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:58:40 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Chris,<br />
<br />
a couple of comments. These 240's are pretty prone to bending where the front clip attaches to the firewall, they get soft, rot, and bend.  You really should consider plating the top of the front struts and tieing  them into the cage. You should also consider plating the inside, or outside (easier) of the frame rails from in front of strut tower, right back to underneath the drivers seat... all in one piece.  Adds some weight yes, but also a lot of strength.<br />
<br />
Depending on how you attach your skid plate, and if you intend to jump.. of course you do! - you might want a bar going from the front of the strut tower to the frame rail directly above where the skid plate attaches. My skid plat attaches to the original tow hooks, when I land hard it bottoms out, and pushes the whole front end in front of the strut towers &quot;up&quot;... I used jack stands hard-wood, and the front bucket of  a back-hoe to bend it back down, and welded in said bars.<br />
<br />
You cage is interesting design.. one tech inspector said it's allowed, good!  I'd hate to see you have to do version 3!  Seat mounts look good, nicer than mine, I had to do the same floor mods to make room for a rally seat...<br />
<br />
Your harness bar is odd, look to me like it's going the wrong way, usually they are behind the main hoop. If that were my car there wouldn't be room for the seats, you and co-driver must both be short.  You main hoop must be further back than mine... or you haven't tired the seats yet!<br />
<br />
I've been using John's 40mm struts for 8 years. I've bent a shit load of inserts, but done around 45 rally's. I'd get the 50mm ones and I doubt bending would be a problem.  The rears are 50's and are reasonably cheap. I've bent a few, but only when I bend some links... which I also make myself.<br />
<br />
Use whichever engine is cheap to get started.  When you are going as fast as you can with that, then get the SR20DET... awesome motor, easy swap, cheap... I've run the same motor for 8 years.<br />
<br />
I don't come on here much these days, in fact I think this is the first message I've posted in well over  a year... if you want to ask me any specific questions, email me   martin  At   qnx   DOT  com.  <br />
<br />
-Martin.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>MRWmotorsports</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:07:28 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>autronic</strong><br/>
I know very little about the North American rally scene. At the current exchange rate ,allowing USD 500 for freight, and given the 10% GST and 10% import duty I would land your struts for approx AUD $5000.</div></blockquote>
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Ross Kingham in South Austarlia got front struts and knuckles and hubs for his 240--the <i>other</i> kind for USD378.. In weight approx the same as struts and shocks..<br />
<br />
GST and duty, nobody can do much for that beyond the normal.<br />
<br />
Andrew Pinker who I mentioned is Australian, living in London doing real estate sales..<br />
<a href="http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=2563" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=2563</a>]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I know very little about the North American rally scene. At the current exchange rate ,allowing USD 500 for freight, and given the 10% GST and 10% import duty I would land your struts for approx AUD $5000.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>autronic</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>autronic</strong><br/>
There either is truth in what NoCoast says or there isnt. Are you currently undertaking legal proceedings against him ?. Thos prices look about right. As I would not accept a rally damper without a cannister and external adjuct, please quote me for a set of your struts with cannister and external adjust for, say a Subaru GC AWD.</div></blockquote>
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Well them if you won't accept a damper without a canister or external adjust, guess I can't help you.<br />
<br />
All US events are gravel, all are to quote a guy named Andrew Pinker, &quot;from fast to really fawkin fast&quot;<br />
<br />
And as you probably know the level of competition here is typically &quot;modest&quot; <br />
As such for most people there is no need for  clickers or adjustable valving in this market..<br />
<br />
I know that most guys have a compulsion to diddle with things..They can buy other things such as the Hotbitch or DMS or Proflex...<br />
Interestingly in my previous sport when moto-cross bike began getting external adjusters on production bikes everybody immediately started twiddling the knobs and got lost...<br />
I maintain that many adjusters are unacceptable variable side to side,  and some have such a large range that its easy to get waaaaaay way off base, while others are so ineffective they are undetectable changes.<br />
<br />
If you were here and could accept no canisters (remember those Pro-flex I just did had only 170mm travel, around only 1015mm more travel than a OEM Subie front--and i did a freshen up on some RSSP/Bartek abd they were likewise very short travel compareed with the 190mm travel on the old 40mm inserts and the 200mm on the 50s) and fixed damping--good enough for overall 1st-4th here--that would be $2400 complete..]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:34:16 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ There either is truth in what NoCoast says or there isnt. Are you currently undertaking legal proceedings against him ?. Thos prices look about right. As I would not accept a rally damper without a cannister and external adjuct, please quote me for a set of your struts with cannister and external adjust for, say a Subaru GC AWD.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>autronic</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Found this Chris (Dale)<br />
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ancient prices and i reckon they haven't gone down:<br />
Prices as of June 2012 and subject to change etc.<br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>With Canister:  Front strut  $1900.00 each<br />
                       Front Top Mount $300.00 each<br />
                      Front Spring $100.00 each<br />
                      Rear coil over $1200.00 each              <br />
                      Rear Spring $100.00 each<br />
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No Canister:  Front strut  $1200.00 each<br />
                    Front Top Mount $300.00 each<br />
                    Front Spring $100.00 each<br />
                    Rear coil over $750.00 each</div></blockquote>
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US$100=OZ$140<br />
or<br />
OZ$100= $71.75 Merikun<br />
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Eeer umm.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:50:30 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Bersh's 240</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>autronic</strong><br/>
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>autronic</strong><br/>
The exchange rate to Australian dollars is quite good currently. Would you consider MCA suspension?</div></blockquote>
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What advantage would that be over the readily available inverted 50 Bilsteins from North Americaäs biggest rally suspension supplier who has already done 2 other 240 Nissans one of which has been a consistent Group 5 winner?<br />
What would the cost be?<br />
How much postage cost?<br />
(I currntly have in my car a full set of Golf suspension adressed to a gy here named Staeve Wheeler in Alberta Canada and it will be USD 212 for post just up there...and from the opposite end of the world I can imagine over USD450.)<br />
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And where the postage is FAR FAR less and where servie in future is easier and cheaper?<br />
<br />
I just refreshed some Proflex struts and the insert rebuild was USD1200 for 4 inserts..or $300/insert.<br />
<br />
It is well under $135 for a Bilstein 50 and which it should be noted, has 200mm travel on the fronts vs the Proflex 170mm travel...220 rear vs 190mm.<br />
<br />
Another friend waited 9 months for a Proflex rebuild.<br />
<br />
There is also a bad taste in many people's mouth about the absolute stonewalling of service from another well known Aussie supplier who claimed &quot;There has never been one DMS unit which has failed in competition&quot;---I have seen the email to their US distributor and the broken shock--fractures in a corner machined with virtually no radius----laying on the desk..</div></blockquote>
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I have no idea what the cost would be. However my post was for CBersh. I could investigate the costs if he wishes. Do not tar all Australians with the DMS brush. We get excellent service from MCA and as of yet I have not seen a failure as one would see with the DMS. I also note that your own service has been severly critizised recently John.</div></blockquote>
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I understand that the post was for chris.<br />
I also understand that this is a discussion forum...and there is a huge lurker to poster ratio because many many many lurkers call up and we have long phone calls..<br />
So those questions, particularly the most obvious &quot;What advantage?&quot; are the normal questions that everybody at Chris stage of prep should and will ask, so they are legitimate questions.<br />
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I'm not tarring a whole country with the shit spewed by one obvious megalomaniac. The guy is nuts.  <br />
As for recent criticism its really Grant Hughes.  Grant wants to be something in the sport and while he's learned to bend tubes and weld passibly, he's not really a rally guy.. Its the whole rally &quot;scene&quot; and the chatter and gossip that motivates him.. I've know many guys here in the States in both rally and the sport I devoted my life to up to about 30...They have bikes and gear, or cars but they never race, or just do little play day things.. And mostly they complain about others..<br />
he says &quot;We've all heard this same story&quot; so &quot;I don't bother reading&quot;.<br />
He forgets that there are constantly noobs and they haven't heard the same stories...<br />
And I found his last whine-fest interesting when he said &quot; a lot of my customers are going to HotBitch or whatever &quot;because of the difficulty of dealing with you&quot;.<br />
Now if they have not called and talked and engeged in any way it is logically not &quot;dealing with &quot; me, is it?<br />
It is from hearing stories--and doubtless one sided and critical stories, guy-bitch sessions..<br />
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Nothing I can do about guys getting together and bonding thru bitching.]]></description>
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            <description><![CDATA[ John, I will for sure give you a jingle again.<br />
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As for the rear arms, I plan on making some myself. Two of then are very simple, a straight piece of tube and some half decent rod ends and away we go. The rear upper control arm has to be bent. I don't have a tube bender but the Amish shop across the way will do it for 16 pennies.<br />
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As for the engine, this one is just to get my butt in the seat. A high compression dual cam is in the future, but balls are more important than power right now.<br />
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As for the MCA suspension, I know they make very good products. But when I break something I would prefer to pick up the phone and say &quot;Hey man, I broke this thing. How do I fix it?&quot; If I lived in Australia I might run a set but I don't...<br />
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I spent the last couple days after work stripping the chassis harness. Took out all the automatic seatbelt crap amongst a bunch of other stuff. Made the harness much easier to fit with the cage.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>CBersh</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>john vanlandingham</strong><br/>
<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>autronic</strong><br/>
The exchange rate to Australian dollars is quite good currently. Would you consider MCA suspension?</div></blockquote>
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What advantage would that be over the readily available inverted 50 Bilsteins from North Americaäs biggest rally suspension supplier who has already done 2 other 240 Nissans one of which has been a consistent Group 5 winner?<br />
What would the cost be?<br />
How much postage cost?<br />
(I currntly have in my car a full set of Golf suspension adressed to a gy here named Staeve Wheeler in Alberta Canada and it will be USD 212 for post just up there...and from the opposite end of the world I can imagine over USD450.)<br />
<br />
And where the postage is FAR FAR less and where servie in future is easier and cheaper?<br />
<br />
I just refreshed some Proflex struts and the insert rebuild was USD1200 for 4 inserts..or $300/insert.<br />
<br />
It is well under $135 for a Bilstein 50 and which it should be noted, has 200mm travel on the fronts vs the Proflex 170mm travel...220 rear vs 190mm.<br />
<br />
Another friend waited 9 months for a Proflex rebuild.<br />
<br />
There is also a bad taste in many people's mouth about the absolute stonewalling of service from another well known Aussie supplier who claimed &quot;There has never been one DMS unit which has failed in competition&quot;---I have seen the email to their US distributor and the broken shock--fractures in a corner machined with virtually no radius----laying on the desk..</div></blockquote>
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I have no idea what the cost would be. However my post was for CBersh. I could investigate the costs if he wishes. Do not tar all Australians with the DMS brush. We get excellent service from MCA and as of yet I have not seen a failure as one would see with the DMS. I also note that your own service has been severly critizised recently John.]]></description>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>autronic</strong><br/>
The exchange rate to Australian dollars is quite good currently. Would you consider MCA suspension?</div></blockquote>
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What advantage would that be over the readily available inverted 50 Bilsteins from North Americaäs biggest rally suspension supplier who has already done 2 other 240 Nissans one of which has been a consistent Group 5 winner?<br />
What would the cost be?<br />
How much postage cost?<br />
(I currntly have in my car a full set of Golf suspension adressed to a gy here named Staeve Wheeler in Alberta Canada and it will be USD 212 for post just up there...and from the opposite end of the world I can imagine over USD450.)<br />
<br />
And where the postage is FAR FAR less and where servie in future is easier and cheaper?<br />
<br />
I just refreshed some Proflex struts and the insert rebuild was USD1200 for 4 inserts..or $300/insert.<br />
<br />
It is well under $135 for a Bilstein 50 and which it should be noted, has 200mm travel on the fronts vs the Proflex 170mm travel...220 rear vs 190mm.<br />
<br />
Another friend waited 9 months for a Proflex rebuild.<br />
<br />
There is also a bad taste in many people's mouth about the absolute stonewalling of service from another well known Aussie supplier who claimed &quot;There has never been one DMS unit which has failed in competition&quot;---I have seen the email to their US distributor and the broken shock--fractures in a corner machined with virtually no radius----laying on the desk..]]></description>
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            <title>Re: Bersh's 240</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The exchange rate to Australian dollars is quite good currently. Would you consider MCA suspension?]]></description>
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            <title>Re: Bersh's 240</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hey Chris, don't worry. I's around.. Let's talk again..One late suggestion on the cage..I like too add a tube from somewhere near the base of the main hoop diagonally back and UP to that junction of the backstays and the rear X..Weighhs nearly nothing extra but the way I see it it means its harder to displace the rear part cause to move anything there you have to kinda stretch that tube...see?<br />
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You looking hard at those various arms in back? That seems to be the biggest thing the other 240--Snissan guys have had actual failures on...In the end I think they made something themselves to be sure it is rally worthy...Shouldn't be too hard, coupla bends and zap zap...<br />
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Engine: zat the 3 valve???<br />
I  don't think its very hard to find a core 16v head...I lurv them Nissan 16v heads<br />
Without much effort we can see that the 2 big 35mm valve have a whole shit ton more flow and guys get big stiffies about flow cause most think flow equals go...<br />
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But the thing I drool about with 16v head is the shape of the combustion chamber and the location of the sparkie plug and the narrow included valve angle of the KA24DE means it has a nice compact chamber---which means it will stand nice high compression--on pump gas---with less tendancy to detonate (after all a lotta guys give them relatively high comp AND fun amounts of turbo boost and boost can be viewed as compression in another form--if they don't det themselves to pieces with comp+ boost, that means they tolerate HIGH comp and not detonate)<br />
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So high comp = torque and thats what moves the car (revs just get converted to torque via the magic of gears)<br />
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So whatchoo plannin?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>john vanlandingham</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:12:34 -0600</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Looks nice man!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>ElectroTech</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:10:19 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Bersh's 240</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Finished stitch welding the bits that I wanted to, and then made some simple little plates for the tops of the rear strut towers. Then reseam sealed, turned out okayish. <a href="http://s242.photobucket.com/user/bersheim123/media/IMG_20151104_201702_zpsewwwnshb.jpg.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ><img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff115/bersheim123/IMG_20151104_201702_zpsewwwnshb.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /></a><br />
Then painted the floor, I hope its not going to be too reflective inside the car... I guess we will find out eventually.<br />
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Assembled this hybrid guage cluster, only trained 240sx enthusiasts eyes will notice that its a JDM TYTE YO cluster that I put a usdm speedometer and odometer into.<br />
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I picked up an engine with a trans, and harness, and all the other assorted bits for $100. Its a sohc ka24. I was going to hold off for a dual cam, but the tiny amount of power difference isnt going to matter for a longgg time anyway.<br />
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It is suprising lovely under the valve cover, I was expecting sludge.<br />
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            <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:10:21 -0600</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Bersh's 240</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I can vouch for JVAB boingers on this chassis. Ian Seppanin has a set on his car and they perform beautifully.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2015 02:43:53 -0500</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Bersh's 240</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Dexter</strong><br/>
Subscribed.<br />
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Power plant? <br />
Suspension?</div></blockquote>
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For power the plan is a &quot;refreshed&quot; dual cam KA. Id rather focus my efforts on suspension first.<br />
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As for suspension; I spoke to Mr, Vanlandingham over the winter when the car was leaving for the first cage. I may end up going that route for as far as struts/spings/mounts go. If hes not around by the time im ready ill try one of the off the shelf setups, but I would rather have a setup made specifically for this car. Im going to be making the multilink arms myself.<br />
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I ended up going ahead and painting the cage, it was begining to rust and by now I think its safe to say I will not be hearing from any of the scrutineers I contacted. <br />
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I also started my strut tower bracing with a little stitch welding. It took some practice, but I think Im doing alright at it now.<br />
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Next up is to make some plates for the tops of the strut towers, then after a little more stitching up near the firewall ill paint the rest of the interior.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>CBersh</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Double posted...]]></description>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Subscribed.<br />
<br />
Power plant? <br />
Suspension?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Dexter</dc:creator>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It's not the usual way of doing it, but yes it's legal.<br />
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See App J Art 253 Section 8.3.1 and Drawing 253-2.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>hoche</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2015 23:13:27 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Is the main hoop a single piece? Not sure if its the me or the pics but that does not seem legal!<br />
Hoche, did you see that?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>turoc</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:41:31 -0500</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Well, I can't really see the welds well (nor check if they go all the way around each tube), but the design looks good and the mounts to the shell look like they're plated decently.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>hoche</dc:creator>
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