1963 SAAB 96 I convinced my pal, Jeff, to FINALLY get into motorsports - and what does he decide he wants? A Historic class rally car. Well...we started small and things sorta mushroomed. In March the car was a stock, rusty, 650cc 96 with a running, but sick motor. Since then, we've (mostly Jeff) rebuilt the rear axle assembly, installed new bushings (stock), bearings, wheel cylinders, brake springs, shoes, and new shocks. E brake cables were greased and in good shape. Next was stainless braided brake lines and new limiting straps. Later was a new 4 row copper core radiator. In late April Jeff bought a late '66. He swapped out the four speed and slightly more modern CV joints for the old '63 three speed and guibo axles. He also robbed the better brakes off the '66. The original gas tank was resealed and painted, and the front bumper was rechromed. The motor in the '66 is an 850cc with the triple carbs. Jeff found a full circle sport crank in Sweden and shipped the entire mess to Bud Clark to turn it into a fire breathing race motor. Well, as fire breathing as a two stroke, three cylinder SAAB can be. The distributor was upgraded with a Pertronix. Putting a late two-stroke in a bullnose (early) SAAB turned out to be a hassle. Some guys told us it wasn't possible. But, we had to slightly relocate the throttle linkage, relocate the lower radiator outlet, and change it from a 0.75 to a 1.25 outlet, come up with all sorts of rerouted coolant hoses, and ditch the jackshaft driven fan for an electric. As of last weekend, the late two-stroke motor is back from the maestro race motor builder and in the car. The carbs have been rebuilt and the manifold has been port matched to the porting on the block. We expect around 85hp from it. We've patched all the rust in the floor and added a double skinned floor between the engine compartment and the seats. We cut out the soft rockers, plug welded 2x2" square tubing into the rockers and plated over the open rockers - they're stiff enough to jack up the car at any point on the rocker. We built a full FIA cage with an additional dash bar. We cut out the original seat mounts and added 2x2" square tubing across the car from rocker to rocker in front of the seats and plated the floor below the seats. We reinforced the rear suspension pickup points, the front towers, plated the shock mounts, and built additional stiffeners to put the front shocks in double shear. And we painted it all with a brush! :lol: We chased down a leaky hard brake line and ended up replacing all the hard lines. That was after the stainless flexible lines and all the wheel cylinders, rebuilding the master cylinder, and installing racing brake shoes. I replaced the hard line from the gas tank to the front of the engine compartment where it mates to an electric pump with a spare mounted right next to it. We boxed in the trunk and package tray to close in the gas tank. We mounted a shelf over the tank and put in straps to hold down one or two spare tires. The rest of the gear - spill kit, tool box, triangles, tow rope and first aid kit still have to be tied down in the trunk. To match the skinny wheels we chose Mickey Thompson Mini-Mag tires. Not modern rally tires. We'll see how they work out and are prepared to groove them if needed. Eye nuts have been installed front and rear as tow loops. The three brackets up front and one in back hold Cibie Oscar lights. Vintage convex Cibie headlights took the place of the junky sealed beams. All the suspension arms and links have been boxed or plated and all new bushings installed. Jeff installed Bilstein shocks up front but we haven't been able to find them for the rear - so it's KYB for now. Anyone have any Bilsteins for the rear of a Bullnose? The muffler and exhaust manifold has been jet-hot coated and a new exhaust and mounts have been installed. This weekend I tapped the manifold for the EGT sensor. One of Jeff's pals that's good with old paint mixed up his magic potion and removed all the surface rust and smoothed out the paint so it's not quite so crusty looking. The worst section of the bumper was rechromed and the wheels were rattlecanned. Special touch - and family tradition - Jeff used airplane valve caps. I bought a Terratrip 404 and we're not sure how/where to mount it. I also bought a PS Engineering airplane intercom amp and a pair of David Clark headsets to gut for helmet intercom parts. We've still got a lot to finish before the Paris Rally after Thanksgiving. Get the engine fired and tuned - nut and bolt the car a few more times - readjust the brakes - install the seats and belts - reinstall the wiring and wire up the new starter button, horn and lights - install the tie-downs in the trunk - wiring the intercom and computer. Anything we've done horribly wrong? Any last minute tips for finishing or something we've forgotten? I know everyone says to buy a beater as a first rally car, but my pal wouldn't do it unless he built a fun car for it. https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,21045#msg-21045 Sun, 31 May 2026 00:26:48 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,116909#msg-116909 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,116909#msg-116909
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1963-saab-96-2/

It's been fun.]]> modernbeat Construction Zone Thu, 10 May 2018 00:18:19 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79983#msg-79983 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79983#msg-79983
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And yes, it's sounds like it's going hell bent for leather, but the speedo read 40-65 mph for much of the event.

Well, for SS8 and SS14 I and The Wife (in ATC Medical) followed Heavy Sweep, which followed Safety Sweep - just as fast as we could (DARED go, with no Safety Gear!) all in front of the Greenlight. To my recollection, we never caught up with you in a 49-odd-year-newer car, with snows....]]> Creech Construction Zone Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:30:06 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79973#msg-79973 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79973#msg-79973
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...The car was definitely a fan favorite. Hopefully Jeff is still going to rally it again and not sell it.

Jeff is most likely done driving. He's enjoyed it, but I think he doesn't want to do it unless he can do it well, and to do it well you accept more risk than a father with a 5 and 3 year old daughter wants to take on.

We're thinking of tweeking the car some and putting Brianne in it for Rally West Virginia this summer. Maybe get Kieran Wright to codrive with her for that event. As long as NASA doesn't ban two-stroke cars like they have the bikes. I'd like to see how it can do with a good driver and navvie in it. None of the stumblebum stuff that Jeff and I did.]]> modernbeat Construction Zone Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:35:54 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79972#msg-79972 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79972#msg-79972 fiasco Construction Zone Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:25:59 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79971#msg-79971 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79971#msg-79971
A balky shifter that ended up locking us out of 3rd and 4th gear on the first day. Fixed it for the second day.

With the tuning we did at home (warm temps) we got a good balance of power and exhaust gas temp. In the denser air at the event we didn't have enough time to really retune the carb and frequently let off the throttle as the EGT climbed past 1200 degrees. We fattened it up (which causes it to lose power) twice and that certainly helped, but we still had to let off on occasion to let the EGTs go back down.

Novice driver getting his feet wet with FWD, two-stroke, the balky freewheeling flywheel (a must when using premix oil-fuel), and ice driving. He was getting the hang of it before the second service on Saturday. But once the sun set everything refroze and it was pretty exciting.

Tires. Had I realized Brianne had packed my tire groover the tread pattern would look a whole lot different and I would have tractionized what tread I left.

Gearing. It might be a little too low. With the old carb I didn't think you could go too low. But, we were able to pull fourth at home, and not at the rally. So I'm not so sure.

I got lost in the notes on two stages and it took half a stage to find my place. Jeff slowed down (even more) and just drove what he could see.

And yes, it's sounds like it's going hell bent for leather, but the speedo read 40-65 mph for much of the event.]]> modernbeat Construction Zone Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:18:39 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79970#msg-79970 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79970#msg-79970
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I thought wistfully of John Vanlanidammitalltohellman every time I saw it enter ATC, and his enthusiasm for these cars.

BTW: it's rubbing off on some of us, John.

John STRONGLY dislikes ring-ding-ding 3-cylinders. I can remember him swearing up a storm and a half when we were hauling a very early production Sonett down to fawkin' Newark so it could go back across the pond. Of course, the dead battery may have had something to do with it, too. ;)

No no no I dislike the way bad, evil weasels would slam worn out junk together that was way worn out and obsess over "I got some Class AA pistons" but they were junk, and junk rods on junk journals and junk bearings and charge people labor again and again assembling this junk---and then people would tire of the car and say "Saabs are unreliable."

The basic motor is what is called "A Thing of Beauty"..

But ignorance and obstinance and cheap-ass-tude means people think it's "cute' and don't want to build them right...and do the ports right..

Ya know the guy I stay with in Sweden, the guy who worked as Sport and Rally engine guy from '58 thru 1980?
Turns out he would do his ports in reference to the deck surface.. I asked why he wouldn't do t to the degree using that big gawddam 2 foot diameter Moroso degree wheel hanging over there-->?"

He said, "we we always measured from the deck surface...., what did you do?"

Me "that goes a ways to 'splainin' why you say "one motor would go like hell, and the next was maybe just OK", you have to do the ports by timing---crank rotation and then its engine to engine consistent"


Bengt-Erik "hmmmmmm I better look into that" and "You ain't half-dumb":D

See a decently done 850, done to the spec of a 1970 trailbike would return about 85 bhp and who knows what for ft/lbs but way way more than a similar sized normal aspirated 4 stroke and at lower rpm..

If they were ported, and done like a 80s trailbike maybe twice that.

They do this without all the aides and crutches that 4 strokes have to use to make any decent power: lots of valves and springs and camshafts and on some junk like pushrods and rockers and they run so poorly some even use exhaust driven pumps to PUMP AIR into the cylinders.

And they still run so poorly, like they have a bad bad miss.. Like they twirl around doing nothing half the time..
HALF the time they doing sweet fack all..
So to try to make any power, or enough to wake you up they have to rev up to 7, 8, 9 or even 10,000 rpm

All to beat simple motors that fire EVERY TIME THE PISTON GOES UP...

A thing of beauty---just waiting for thinking about what was all developed post 1967]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:32:01 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79967#msg-79967 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79967#msg-79967
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I thought wistfully of John Vanlanidammitalltohellman every time I saw it enter ATC, and his enthusiasm for these cars.

BTW: it's rubbing off on some of us, John.

John STRONGLY dislikes ring-ding-ding 3-cylinders. I can remember him swearing up a storm and a half when we were hauling a very early production Sonett down to fawkin' Newark so it could go back across the pond. Of course, the dead battery may have had something to do with it, too. ;)]]> fiasco Construction Zone Tue, 05 Mar 2013 19:37:54 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79963#msg-79963 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79963#msg-79963
BTW: it's rubbing off on some of us, John.]]> Creech Construction Zone Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:20:34 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79941#msg-79941 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79941#msg-79941
The car was definitely a fan favorite. Hopefully Jeff is still going to rally it again and not sell it.]]> johnhuebbe Construction Zone Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:07:23 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79852#msg-79852 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79852#msg-79852 The lights for my first car (Cibie's) cost more than the car itself which was driven home, and eventually ran and finished the 1969 Canadian Winter Rally.
The car was so cheap because a friend comvinced the used car guy that the weird engine sound was due to a worn lobe on the camshaft! True story. Thanks again, Bob. RIP

]]> Gravelgeezer Construction Zone Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:09:16 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79719#msg-79719 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79719#msg-79719 jbass Construction Zone Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:39:38 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79715#msg-79715 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,79715#msg-79715


]]> modernbeat Construction Zone Sat, 02 Mar 2013 15:17:51 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78728#msg-78728 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78728#msg-78728
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...As for your EGT gauge, does it have an idiot light you can set for a certain temp? Mark and I loved the look of the analog temp gauges in our bug (for that old look) but it was a pain in the butt to always look down and check temps on stage. Now the gauges are digital and record peak temp and have an idiot light. Basically we don't worry about temps unless a light comes on. Helps to concentrate on the job at hand more and not always worrying about blowing up the car.

No, we don't have an idiot light on them. Nor are we recording data. That's how I would set up a competiton car, but Jeff resists many of my suggestions to make the car faster and stronger with more longevity, particularly if they are not period. I can't express how hard it was to get an electric fan on the car. He did do all the suspension strengthening - as all of that was in line with the era the car was built in.

Watching the EGT is one of my codriver jobs. It always has been even when we ran the single at the last few events. We've always had an EGT on the car. This was just an upgrade to a tripple.

And yes, the car still pulling at 7000 rpm in top (fourth) gear was a great feeling. Between the carb and the FIA 95 liter tank we should have a decent time at 100AW.

Ran some sound tests yesterday. First time we've had everything all put together including the new, more civil exhaust. It's no longer the ear splitter it used to be, but still has that great sound at full song. And with the new carb and jetting the EGTs are lower than they've ever been. No more spitting pistons out the tailpipe when the temps hit 1400.]]> modernbeat Construction Zone Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:36:34 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78721#msg-78721 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78721#msg-78721
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The aircraft clock and EGT gauge. We keep a close eye on the exhaust temps.

Will be glad to see it at 100AW. Also good that you went with Weber carb. I hated seeing you guys hit your terminal speed, at like what, 45mph or something crazy slow? (nice keychain btw)

As for your EGT gauge, does it have an idiot light you can set for a certain temp? Mark and I loved the look of the analog temp gauges in our bug (for that old look) but it was a pain in the butt to always look down and check temps on stage. Now the gauges are digital and record peak temp and have an idiot light. Basically we don't worry about temps unless a light comes on. Helps to concentrate on the job at hand more and not always worrying about blowing up the car.]]> johnhuebbe Construction Zone Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:03:14 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78658#msg-78658 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78658#msg-78658 Rallymech Construction Zone Sat, 09 Feb 2013 22:44:06 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78642#msg-78642 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78642#msg-78642
We've been running an alternator since day one.]]> modernbeat Construction Zone Sat, 09 Feb 2013 17:02:36 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78635#msg-78635 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78635#msg-78635
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I have been running Veredestein Snow+. They are the correct diameter and come in 145 or 155 15. You should try a set. They are really good.

They are good for snow but they are the worst thing in the world for gravel.]]> Doivi Clarkinen Construction Zone Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:03:08 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78627#msg-78627 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78627#msg-78627
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I say keep the rrrRRRINGG DIng ding ding. Can recall buying six packs of SAABoil.
Great car. You'll like the front discs.
JT
Yep the 2 major mods: normal 96 discs---which are bigger diameter than the discs on a stock Xratty...and an alternator...
And with 5.83 final drive it ought to go like stink, too bad he never asks me about this Special I input shaft and counter gear I have which raise first and second gear a little closer to third....B)-

Yeah git holt of Robert about some right sized tires, try a set. I've seen 'em they look damn good.]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Sat, 09 Feb 2013 12:42:20 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78626#msg-78626 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78626#msg-78626 Rallymech Construction Zone Sat, 09 Feb 2013 12:12:46 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78617#msg-78617 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78617#msg-78617 Great car. You'll like the front discs.
JT]]> MrToad Construction Zone Sat, 09 Feb 2013 08:02:39 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78612#msg-78612 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78612#msg-78612
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The tires look gigantic. What size are they? What final drive ratio are you using?

5.83:1 and 27" tall tire.

Talk to Genoss Herr Rallymech about getting some more period correct 155/80 x 15 Vredesteins..
Period correct-er, doubtless .68 tons lighter per tire , and probabaly 63cm tall
or 24.7 theoretical lengths of an imaginary king's thumb.

And importantly, not merely work so much better, it'll look better-er.

Those are some pretty big flywheels for the poor innocentwiddle wing-dinger to sin up.


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. If we wanted competitive we'd have an '86 Golf or a turbo '85 Quattro Coupe.

You don't have to go all sarcastic now, pardner..

You could merely do a V4 powered 96...
But then there'd be no acceptable excuse for now winning outright...]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Sat, 09 Feb 2013 00:58:40 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78610#msg-78610 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78610#msg-78610
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The tires look gigantic. What size are they? What final drive ratio are you using?

5.83:1 and 27" tall tire.

We're using the vintage designed Mickey Thompson Mini Mag tire, which has been in production since 1969 and will fit on our skinny 4" wheels and under the tight fenders of the SAAB. The size is E78-15. When's the last time you saw a tire size in that notation? We were afraid the design wouldn't work for drive wheels and the wear would be horrific, but they've worked without having to add cross grooving and have held up well.

Before you comment on the tire choice, remember that this isn't just a Rally America Historic class car, but the owner wanted a car built with no technology past about 1970. It's not built to be competitive, but to be fun and unique. If we wanted competitive we'd have an '86 Golf or a turbo '85 Quattro Coupe.]]> modernbeat Construction Zone Sat, 09 Feb 2013 00:36:46 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78603#msg-78603 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78603#msg-78603 Rallymech Construction Zone Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:32:34 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78601#msg-78601 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78601#msg-78601
That is so full of awesome!

3 cylinders UNITE! Wait, I have those pesky valves...]]> Mad Matt F Construction Zone Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:29:10 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78586#msg-78586 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78586#msg-78586
We had been having issues for years with the carbs on this car. We've been through three sets, and hundreds of jetting/timing combos trying to get it into it's power band. It's a big-bore and big-port engine that doesn't really come on until 4000 rpm, but it was being choked off by the Solexes at around 4500 rpm. That didn't make it much fun. With the Porsche carb we haven't hit redline yet, but the math says around 8000 rpm should be the end. And the car is MUCH more fun since it's easier to drive and can stay in the power band.

Here's a good shot of the brake caliper showing the odd tapered pads. I realize this was common on SAABs, but SAABs are still new to me.


The GT dash grafted into our Bullnose.


Opening up a clearance slot in the carb adapter plate. Needs more room for the linkage to swing below the mating line.


One of the more traditional aircleaner setups we used. It's available is someone else needs it.


That aircleaner was modified to allow more air in through the gaps around the air cleaner tops. We made custom foam aircleaners using iPD foam.


The current engine setup. This shows some of the rerouted cooling plumbing.


The aircraft clock and EGT gauge. We keep a close eye on the exhaust temps.


Found this early Terra Trip computer a few years ago. Getting it into working order has been a saga, but it seems to finally be working correctly after adding an isolated power supply from David Navone. It's so old that when sent back to Terra Trip for repair, they said they had never seen one and the only reference they had to it was a copy of a magazine advertisement from the '70s.


And another action shot from a 2011 event, the last time it was driven in anger.
]]> modernbeat Construction Zone Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:00:41 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78585#msg-78585 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,78585#msg-78585
The engine with the new carb and aircleaner.


The crazy Sonnett brakes. The caliper twists in relation to the disc!


Notice this fuel filler is on the wrong side. It feeds the additional tank.


And another of the engine with the new carb.
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Congrats on the success.]]> alkun Construction Zone Mon, 28 Mar 2011 13:09:27 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,47833#msg-47833 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,47833#msg-47833




And video...



]]> modernbeat Construction Zone Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:49:01 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,44828#msg-44828 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,44828#msg-44828 modernbeat Construction Zone Mon, 27 Dec 2010 22:34:34 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,36698#msg-36698 Re: 1963 SAAB 96 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,21045,36698#msg-36698 -------------------------------------------------------
> modernbeat Wrote:
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> > We had to send in cores for the shoes.
> >
> > The Sonnett tank is smaller and is
> configured
> > completely different from the 96 tank. And,
> it's
> > illegal for Rally America use, which requires
> the
> > stock tank, or a FIA approved fuel cell.
> >
> > Jason McDaniel
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> JVL is correct. Sonnett tank is shown in the
> Homologation papers as alternate. Without loking
> it up, 96 tank is 12 gallon, Sonett is 15 gal.

The early tanks are 30 something liters, later tanks about 39 liters or just over 10 gallons. The Sonett tank is somewhere between 12 and 13ish.

Enough to make a difference.
> Same base but taller.
>
> Bruce Beauvais
> Too many SAABs to count


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