This has finally gotten far enough along that I think it applies here. I've been working on this for the last few months with Dave and another LeMons racer. The kit we're planing should let you drop a Hayabusa engine into basically any small front engine rear wheel drive car that's suitable for rally...like say a Starlet or a Kadett. We're doing the Miata first for Dave and I'm going to do a BMW 1600 next because I want something pre-SMOG so I can drive it on the street. [IMG]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r6/yetiult/AV%20BUSA%20ADAPTER/IMG_1861.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r6/yetiult/AV%20BUSA%20ADAPTER/IMG_1865.jpg[/IMG] The full articles by Dave: http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/1519/project-miatabusa-part-1-what-the-hell-we-are-thinking.aspx http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/1619/project-miatabusa-part-2--the-engine-is-in.aspx https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40154#msg-40154 Sun, 05 Apr 2026 07:42:50 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40795#msg-40795 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40795#msg-40795 -------------------------------------------------------
> So Tim....if you did VW then I could convert my FV
> over to something totally insane to drive?

Yes, and it's just when, not if we do a VW transaxle adapter. It costs us about $700 out of pocket for parts/scanning on each new application we plan to do. If you have a spare engine and transmission case you want to let us measure I can move it up the list. Michel is already planning to bring by a Golf transmission to see if it will clear the engine case. Lots of high RPM stupidity in the works...
]]> Tim Taylor Construction Zone Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:34:46 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40790#msg-40790 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40790#msg-40790 -------------------------------------------------------
> So Tim....if you did VW then I could convert my FV
> over to something totally insane to drive?

New class - Formula 'Busa
]]> wvonkessler Construction Zone Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:57:31 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40789#msg-40789 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40789#msg-40789 heymagic Construction Zone Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:41:41 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40770#msg-40770 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40770#msg-40770


It's 4 feet wide and weighs 650 lbs.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270615515754&viewitem=]]> pikespeakgtx Construction Zone Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:57:50 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40258#msg-40258 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40258#msg-40258 -------------------------------------------------------

> With the two piece construction of the adapter I
> can make any bell-housing adapter bolt to any
> transmission by changing that and the removable
> crank snout on our main shaft. The next two on
> the list after the Mazda transmission are VW bus
> transaxle for the sand rail set and Type 9 for the
> Lotus 7 replica crowd.

Great target markets, Type 9 is used primarily by the guys in England, T5 would be the way to go on this side of the ocean.

t]]> Ted Andkilde Construction Zone Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:38:15 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40255#msg-40255 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40255#msg-40255 Jay Construction Zone Sun, 11 Jul 2010 06:45:48 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40254#msg-40254 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40254#msg-40254
I don't know much about the Hayabusa engine.

What I am seeing is, this is an adapter for this little 1300cc to any trans that takes a Mazda B-engine.

You know what else takes a B-engine? Festivas and Aspires.

I'm thinking giggle factory.


]]> Pete Construction Zone Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:01:32 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40243#msg-40243 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40243#msg-40243 Jay Construction Zone Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:27:20 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40242#msg-40242 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40242#msg-40242
You simply can't do a comparable automotive engine that light for that money.]]> hudson Construction Zone Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:38:58 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40240#msg-40240 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40240#msg-40240 -------------------------------------------------------
> Nice looking header. Whats the dogbone shaped
> fabricated tube at the end of the head?
>
> Feisty Peacock?

That's part of the unfinished mounting of the engine. It's also going to be part of holding up the twin-scroll Mitsubishi turbo Dave wants on the car. That's why the primary tube pairing looks so weird.


]]> Tim Taylor Construction Zone Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:47:21 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40239#msg-40239 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40239#msg-40239 Dazed_Driver Construction Zone Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:17:41 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40238#msg-40238 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40238#msg-40238
I'm loving how the 4age sounds at 8k. I can't wait to hear this set up. In the woods or not.

You continue to impress and inspire Tim. Keep it up]]> slidewayswrx Construction Zone Fri, 09 Jul 2010 21:43:40 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40236#msg-40236 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40236#msg-40236
]]> Tim Taylor Construction Zone Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:59:08 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40221#msg-40221 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40221#msg-40221 -------------------------------------------------------
if I could do it again, I'd be building a golf,
> focus, or CRX.
>

Man grass is always greener. If I were to be doing it again, I'd be going RWD, probably a E36 or Volvo.......

]]> mack73 Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:33:01 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40220#msg-40220 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40220#msg-40220 -------------------------------------------------------
> Doivi Clarkinen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Interesting project. I like this kind of
> > engineering but It doesn't seem like the
> Hyabusa
> > is an engine that's really suited to rally.
> No
> > torque and fuck all for power until you to
> at
> > least 5000 rpm. You're gonna want a really
> short
> > final drive and a super close ratio gearbox
> to
> > make that work well. But it will sound very
> > cool.
> > Personally, this looks more interesting to
> me:
>
>
> Dave, please actually read the first article Dave
> wrote. We're pulling power off the crank after
> the 1.5:1 primary reduction that's already in the
> engine. The output to the flywheel never goes
> over 7K RPM and there is no need to change
> anything in the drivetrain or use a special
> clutch/flywheel.

Ahh, okay. Very interesting!
>
> The Hartley is beautiful but it also costs $30K
> and requires everything downstream of it to be
> changed out full huge $ spec to handle the high
> RPM.


Yeah, so? It sounds really awesome! Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?
]]> Doivi Clarkinen Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:25:18 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40217#msg-40217 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40217#msg-40217 phlat65 Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:12:00 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40216#msg-40216 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40216#msg-40216 -------------------------------------------------------
> Interesting project. I like this kind of
> engineering but It doesn't seem like the Hyabusa
> is an engine that's really suited to rally. No
> torque and fuck all for power until you to at
> least 5000 rpm. You're gonna want a really short
> final drive and a super close ratio gearbox to
> make that work well. But it will sound very
> cool.
> Personally, this looks more interesting to me:


Dave, please actually read the first article Dave wrote. We're pulling power off the crank after the 1.5:1 primary reduction that's already in the engine. The output to the flywheel never goes over 7K RPM and there is no need to change anything in the drivetrain or use a special clutch/flywheel.

The Hartley is beautiful but it also costs $30K and requires everything downstream of it to be changed out full huge $ spec to handle the high RPM.]]> Tim Taylor Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:29:47 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40215#msg-40215 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40215#msg-40215 Personally, this looks more interesting to me: http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/1562068.htm]]> Doivi Clarkinen Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:16:35 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40210#msg-40210 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40210#msg-40210 -------------------------------------------------------
> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > if I could do it again, I'd be building a
> golf,
> > focus, or CRX.
>
>


hahahahahahaha That's a pretty good picture, but I have nothing against FWD...


Little Johnnykins: I thought volvos were 3-500 pounds more?? ]]> Dazed_Driver Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 21:43:48 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40205#msg-40205 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40205#msg-40205
That sounds like a whole lotta win for the average guy.]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:42:39 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40204#msg-40204 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40204#msg-40204 -------------------------------------------------------
> Will the adapter work on the latest version of the
> hayabusa engine?
>

We don't know because we haven't measured one yet. They're still to new and not enough of them have crashed yet to bring the price down...give it a year.

]]> Tim Taylor Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:30:01 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40203#msg-40203 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40203#msg-40203
-Martin.]]> MRWmotorsports Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:18:46 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40202#msg-40202 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40202#msg-40202
]]> pikespeakgtx Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:17:52 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40200#msg-40200 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40200#msg-40200 -------------------------------------------------------
> if I could do it again, I'd be building a golf,
> focus, or CRX.

]]> Tim Taylor Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:10:23 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40196#msg-40196 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40196#msg-40196 mellow65 Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:47:44 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40193#msg-40193 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40193#msg-40193 -------------------------------------------------------
> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's not the engine that I think doesn't
> make
> > sense, its the type of car you get stuck
> with...
> > The only newer cars these days to become
> light
> > enough are FWD, which I wouldn't mind
> driving, but
> > what would you do for a transmission?
> >
> > If you have to shove it into an older RWD
> car,
> > you're back to having troubles finding body
> panels
> > and what not when you smack stuff/roll.
> >
> > Feisty Peacock?
> >
> >
>
>
> With the two piece construction of the adapter I
> can make any bell-housing adapter bolt to any
> transmission by changing that and the removable
> crank snout on our main shaft. The next two on
> the list after the Mazda transmission are VW bus
> transaxle for the sand rail set and Type 9 for the
> Lotus 7 replica crowd.
>
> I wonder why I would want to get "stuck" with a
> light RWD BMW 1600? It must impossible to get
> anything for an old POS like that. Yep,
> downright obscure...you can't get anything useful
> for a daily driver like replacement door
> weatherstripping and such
>
>

I mentioned body work... and hardly any of those cars on that nextal store had body panels... Or any on the Pelican site, for the record, lol.


However, I'm not saying you can't find parts for the old RWD cars, its just getting harder. My corolla is that way, RX7's are getting that way, Merkurs have been (I'm not sure how light they get), I've honestly NEVER seen a BMW 2002 outside of rally, E30 325i's are super over priced, and volvos, the only cars that are plentiful (and also according to JVL, god's gift to rallying, next to ford escorts) are too heavy.


That was my point. It's not that you can't, its more, "is it really worth the hunt?" I'm not even racing yet and I'm already working on my "OK, when I bend/break this part, how will I replace it" plan. And honestly, with the supply I'm finding, if I could do it again, I'd be building a golf, focus, or CRX.

Now a CRX with a busa engine, that would frickin scream. ]]> Dazed_Driver Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:09:58 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40191#msg-40191 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40191#msg-40191 -------------------------------------------------------
> It's not the engine that I think doesn't make
> sense, its the type of car you get stuck with...
> The only newer cars these days to become light
> enough are FWD, which I wouldn't mind driving, but
> what would you do for a transmission?
>
> If you have to shove it into an older RWD car,
> you're back to having troubles finding body panels
> and what not when you smack stuff/roll.
>
> Feisty Peacock?
>
>


With the two piece construction of the adapter I can make any bell-housing adapter bolt to any transmission by changing that and the removable crank snout on our main shaft. The next two on the list after the Mazda transmission are VW bus transaxle for the sand rail set and Type 9 for the Lotus 7 replica crowd.

I wonder why I would want to get "stuck" with a light RWD BMW 1600? It must impossible to get anything for an old POS like that. http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=ireland&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=96447169&Count2=13587594 Yep, downright obscure...you can't get anything useful for a daily driver like replacement door weatherstripping and such http://www.pelicanparts.com/euro/catalog/shopcart/B136/POR_B136_BDYsel_pg1.htm

]]> Tim Taylor Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:42:16 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40190#msg-40190 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40190#msg-40190 mellow65 Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:32:06 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40188#msg-40188 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40188#msg-40188
If you have to shove it into an older RWD car, you're back to having troubles finding body panels and what not when you smack stuff/roll. ]]> Dazed_Driver Construction Zone Thu, 08 Jul 2010 14:23:08 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40183#msg-40183 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,40154,40183#msg-40183 Youse guys are clinically insane....
Maybe the have occupational therapy in the Institution.

Maybe it's wheat rust or argot..

I mean youse guys cant't even say "Whoa dooodz must'a metabolized some old Owsley Orange Sunshine, man, from back in the war, dooooooodz"

For youse guys with no culture who don't know the reference to Owsley: (and how appropriate it is for Tim and Gang)

Stanley Owsley:
When Stanley was twenty-one, he enlisted in the U.S. Air Force in 1956 and served for eighteen months before being discharged in 1958. Later, inspired by a 1958 performance of the Bolshoi Ballet, he began studying ballet in Los Angeles, supporting himself for a time as a professional dancer.[1] In 1963, he enrolled at the University of California, Berkeley where he became involved in the psychoactive drug scene. He dropped out after a semester, took a technical job at KGO-TV, and began producing LSD in a small lab located in the bathroom of a house near campus. His makeshift laboratory was raided by police on February 21, 1965. He beat the charges and successfully sued for the return of his equipment. The police were looking for methamphetamine, but found only LSD—which was not illegal at the time.

Stanley moved to Los Angeles to pursue the production of LSD. He used his Berkeley lab proceeds to buy 500 grams of lysergic acid monohydrate, the basis for LSD. His first shipment arrived on March 30, 1965. He produced 300,000 capsules (270 micrograms each) of LSD by May 1965 and then returned to the Bay Area.

In September 1965, Stanley became the primary LSD supplier to Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters; by this point Sandoz LSD was hard to come by and "Owsley Acid" had become the new standard. He was featured (most prominently his freak-out at the Muir Beach Acid Test in November 1965) in The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, a book detailing the history of Kesey and the Merry Pranksters by Tom Wolfe. Stanley attended the Watts Acid Test on February 12, 1966 with his new apprentice Tim Scully and provided the LSD.


For youse who don't catch the reference to Acid:




“Chemists who fall into acid get absorbed into their work.”
~ Confucius on acid

An acid is any chemical with a pH either higher or lower than 6, It's hard to remember sometimes, you know? Acid/base systems are different from redox reactions in that there is no change in oxidation state, but every kind of change in everything else. Basically, an acid will cause things to melt: metal, ice, cathedrals, and the sound of leaves rustiling angrily, like disgruntled lobbyists, on a lime-green autumn morning. Once you use Acid, you will find that the Snozberries do, in fact, taste like Snozberries. Also many people say that my asshole was on acid once and it was trippin like a mother fucker.
Contents
[hide]

* 1 Sources of acid
* 2 Obtaining and Using Acid
* 3 Alternate Meaning
* 4 Colors of Acids
* 5 Some Popular Acids
* 6 See also

[edit] Sources of acid
Tripping acid may cause you to eat babies.

Acid is commonly found in old batteries, rain and hippies' brains. Research shows that this phenomenon is caused by tiny acid rain storms within batteries, especially AAA:s and D:s. Breaking a battery open would probably unleash the storm and cause an acid tornado, or the acid may just leak all over the carpet and make a mess. It can be safely extracted only by using advanced Scientology techniques, like trickle down dianetics, and Neoplatonian philosophy (The study of Philo in New Platonia).

Acid can also be found in special lemons (lemons are shaped like rugby balls but are much smaller). If you suspect that you may be trying to extract the acid from an actual rugby ball or perhaps an egg remember this simple rule: If you want to find acid in, remember it has yellow skin. Acid from lemons can cause hallucinations that make you feel like your face and eyes have screwed up. This occurs especially when you drink a lot of the acid - except when it comes from a related fruit, the orange. Certain oranges, the variant known to biologists as Owsley Orange, like lemons, produce Fine Acid. The Owsley Orange variant need only be thought about, to produce profound effects. Larger doses have been taken but the results have not been properly studied since the subjects are so rarely to be found in the same universe after taking it. Oddly enough, those around you will also see your face screw up and your eyes close. Since this happens without regard to whether or not they are actually looking at you, this is known as a group hallucination.

Acid can also be found in the feces of hippopottomuses of the hugu tribe of south africa. the hugu tribe mebers harvist the acid every day of the hugu calendar, making a great crop for the tribe members to sell to people who ran out of shrooms.
[edit] Obtaining and Using Acid
Don't look in the toilet!

Acid is produced illegally in labs, which then sell it to drug users and Energizer bunnies. Drug users need acid for the battery of drug tests that they are forced to take, and the Energizer bunny actually just injects that shit right into his/her/its veins/circuitry (as Energizer bunnies are so fast, nobody has ever managed to catch one in order to dissect it and find out whether they have veins or circuits). When the Energizer bunny is all tripped out everyone can take turns raping him - this led to the Third World War. After the war the bunny was admitted to a half-way house in Canada; and this is why everyone says "eh" over yonder in Canada.

Acid is also used to strip paint from your neighbor's car, and then to get his 19 year old daughter to strip naked and run through the streets screaming about flying alligators that have octopi for eyes. We can see how this can be useful.








[edit] Alternate Meaning
For those without comedic tastes, the so-called experts at Wikipedia have an article about Acid.

Also a term used to describe the numerous --identification cards (or IDs) used by AC Slater from the hit reality show of the early 1900s entitled Saved By the Bell - AC IDs. There were only a handful of these episodes before Norwaynian assassins of Eastern Venus destroyed television as it was known in this time period. Luckily, God didn't do anything (he never does) and the evil prevailed once again. But in 1933, Albert Einstein resurrected this so-called TV; and, more importantly saved Saved By the Bell - just before the Bell sounded. It was a close call that will never be forgotten. Or will it? Depends. It will.
[edit] Colors of Acids

“Yellow, fizzy, delicious, yellow, fizzy, delicious, yellow, blurry, fizzilicious.”
~ Oscar Wilde on Battery Acid

* Blue
* Green
* Brown
* orange

[edit] Some Popular Acids

* Sulfuric acid
* Hydrochloric acid
* Citric acid
* LSD acid
* Coca Colaâ„¢
* Lactic acid

[edit] See also

* Sex
* Drugs
* Rock
* and Roll
* Sdrawkcab
* Unicorns
* Psychedelic cab
* HowTo:Skin a cat
* Magic




I hope this clarifies what the solution is.....






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