John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? I spent so much damn time figuring out how to get air in my engine, now what about the fuel??? Inyektor size, FPRs.......confusing adjustable fpr's, stainless this, walbro that. TURBOBITCHERS DON"T KNOW YET!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!! You'd think, with all those BITCHING'n'whining nerdzzz, one of 'em would have built a proper fueling system. So what'd Group-A cars do for 370whp...or 330...or anywhere in between? Is my stock K-jetz pumpzzzzzz gonna doiet? I stumbled upon this.... [url=http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-sl-slc-class/1450844-bosch-k-jetronic-overview.html][/url] I can only asssssuuuummmmeeee, that information is specific to a 560 series engine.....the big, bad V8....but if their fuel dizzy's were good enough for Volvo Group-A, were their fuel pumps??? I see those cars in the yards all the time...can't help but think that I"m walking past a lotta good fuel pumps... 4-5 LITRES PRE MINUTE.....is that anything like 240-300 Litres per HOUR????????????? Oh, and whilst we're on the subject......how about the accumulators?????? Sounds worth-while.....why did Volvo stop using these with LH??????????? Ohhhhh, it's probably cuzzzzz it was when they went to LH, which is less sensitive, than a carburetor or K-Jet, to fuel pressure inconsistencies......but wait, this is our FUEL we're talking about here, damnit!! Why did they stop??????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60802#msg-60802 Sat, 04 Apr 2026 12:25:29 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,64184#msg-64184 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,64184#msg-64184 aj_johnson Construction Zone Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:46:44 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,64178#msg-64178 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,64178#msg-64178
Rumored to be used on a few current/recent AMG models too.

Still no 044's on stock Benz's yet]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:07:15 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63743#msg-63743 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63743#msg-63743
Suppose you're right....not to mention, the accumulator is there for start-up on a K-jet car....it needs that reserve...won't have that issue.

I cut the Accumulator clamp off the Mercedes-Benz Fuel Delivery tray....so, now just a pair of pumps and a filter....gotta grab a hard line connector off a later, EFI Benz, one without the accumulator output, and I'm set.

Funny, I grabbed all the hardware to hang it, from the Benz, it fits up where the old pump on my 242 goes, perfectly, and the old tray from the 242 makes a perfect skid plate.]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Sun, 01 Apr 2012 23:09:01 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63705#msg-63705 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63705#msg-63705
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Accumulators like to fail anyway.

Everything fails, thats why I said fergheddit since it is not needed.]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:33:46 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63698#msg-63698 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63698#msg-63698 Pete Construction Zone Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:30:04 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63696#msg-63696 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63696#msg-63696
The accumulator is there mainly for noise supression, not for maintaining pressure. The pulse waave through the fuel lines when the injector opens/closes can cause a knocking noise. You will be fine without it.]]> phlat65 Construction Zone Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:07:26 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63687#msg-63687 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63687#msg-63687
Might be nice for start-ups.....

Gotta look into it a bit more though, because I could swear there's supposed to be a check valve in the system, somewhere.]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:07:44 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63685#msg-63685 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63685#msg-63685 aj_johnson Construction Zone Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:59:40 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63679#msg-63679 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63679#msg-63679
I've now swapped to MS1v3....the addition of the accumulator, would just be an extra measure to maintain consistent fuel pressure.]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:53:19 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63675#msg-63675 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63675#msg-63675
I've got a set of 5 370cc injectors-bosch style connectors
your choice of haltech or megasquirt both currently in fuel only form. MS is upgradeable.
I'll even throw in a known good fuel pump.]]> aj_johnson Construction Zone Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:40:20 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63665#msg-63665 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63665#msg-63665
The accumulator is cuz K-Jetz gotta maintain fuel system pressure so importantly...

Isn't that sorta, kinda, maybe like a swirl pot idear???

Like make an already good system, just a lil bit better?

Seeing as though I never really ditched the accumulator setup from when the 242 was K-Jet.....meaning the return line, from accumulator to tank....

I dunno, I'm all for simple, but if it's just one lil old line to hook-up...that's already there, might be worth it???]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:06:22 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63664#msg-63664 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63664#msg-63664
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Werrrrdddd...

Oh, what about the accumulator?

Is it worthwhile to retain in the setup?

No, just keep it simple.]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:01:21 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63663#msg-63663 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63663#msg-63663
Oh, what about the accumulator?

Is it worthwhile to retain in the setup?]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:38:13 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63662#msg-63662 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63662#msg-63662
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I may have broken some ground and found the fable fuel pumps...

Mercedes 300E and 300CE's have a nice tray under car, housing a pair of Bosch 0 580 254 950, nice fuel filter and accumulator....this is off a 3.0L inline 6-cylinder K-Jet car. The assembly, with it's beautiful hard lines fits right onto a 240 fuel pump tray!!!

The inlets on the fuel pumps are 14mm, and are said to be used in the same configuration on the AMG E60. They're rated for 135LPH each....

Should be enough for my lil Turbo toy?

Yeah, I betcha if youse slook you'll see that is more than enough..]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:35:33 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63661#msg-63661 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,63661#msg-63661
Mercedes 300E and 300CE's have a nice tray under car, housing a pair of Bosch 0 580 254 950, nice fuel filter and accumulator....this is off a 3.0L inline 6-cylinder K-Jet car. The assembly, with it's beautiful hard lines fits right onto a 240 fuel pump tray!!!

The inlets on the fuel pumps are 14mm, and are said to be used in the same configuration on the AMG E60. They're rated for 135LPH each....

Should be enough for my lil Turbo toy?]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:11:22 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,61037#msg-61037 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,61037#msg-61037
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mo fukka, what u say bout zitzzzz....

i'm a lil wayzzz from puberty, ya kno!

14mm on the hardware???? Like it takes a 14mm box wrench to get the fawwwkin banjo out????


Or the hose is 14mm......nahhhh, that can't be right.....

But those LPH gotsta mean sumptin, no?

14mm threads as in m14 X 1.5 OR IF ITS HOSE, 14 on the connection..

LPH means LPH, the hint is when they know its a pump that'll be demanding volume in heaps, better make the connection large enough]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:33:50 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,61032#msg-61032 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,61032#msg-61032
i'm a lil wayzzz from puberty, ya kno!

14mm on the hardware???? Like it takes a 14mm box wrench to get the fawwwkin banjo out????


Or the hose is 14mm......nahhhh, that can't be right.....

But those LPH gotsta mean sumptin, no?]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:01:55 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,61012#msg-61012 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,61012#msg-61012 john vanlandingham Construction Zone Wed, 01 Feb 2012 07:48:44 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,61004#msg-61004 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,61004#msg-61004
I was like at the yarrrd n saaw me a Krazeeeeeee fuel inyektion pump setup outta a Benz...

I dunno what benz, cuz I found it, hiddin in a ferocious British Feline, go figure!!

It was two pumps, with the prettiest hard lines in the world.....man those Germans do go All OUt!!!

Anyways, the last three numbers in the Bosch PN# was 950.....looks like a 130LPH pump....

Was the 044 spec'd as OEM on any cars???????????]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Wed, 01 Feb 2012 00:58:09 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60985#msg-60985 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60985#msg-60985 Racinkid13 Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:16:54 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60978#msg-60978 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60978#msg-60978
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Throw away your cigarettes and light up a spliff

Dooooood, when Eye do big rasta-man type hits on me ciggies and you'll get all high---ish.. jesst watchin]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:29:50 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60977#msg-60977 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60977#msg-60977 Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:58:05 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60976#msg-60976 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60976#msg-60976
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It would be like hitchhikers guide to the galaxy written by snoop dog and portland hipster. LOL

:drink:

Where's the smokey-juana similie?]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:56:12 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60972#msg-60972 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60972#msg-60972
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It would be like hitchhikers guide to the galaxy written by snoop dog and portland hipster. LOL

:drink:]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:48:59 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60958#msg-60958 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60958#msg-60958
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Myles and John should join forces to write the most incomprehensible book ever.

It would be like hitchhikers guide to the galaxy written by snoop dog and portland hipster. LOL]]> aj_johnson Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:32:51 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60956#msg-60956 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60956#msg-60956
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Myles and John should join forces to write the most incomprehensible book ever.

Funny thing is he's 35 years younger, different "cultcha" but we understand each other fine... we can both be blabbering this whacked lingo, and then shift to clear analytical talk, then shift back, no problemo muchachito..]]> john vanlandingham Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:27:23 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60955#msg-60955 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60955#msg-60955 Gravity Fed Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:12:00 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60944#msg-60944 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60944#msg-60944 aj_johnson Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:13:09 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60942#msg-60942 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60942#msg-60942
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Eh... I'd grab the pumps off a non turbo car. Not sure about the 10v turbos, but the 10v NA cars had fuel pumps with a bit more oomph than the 20vturbo cars.

69436 is the bosch part number *I believe.

Found in the 80 and 90 quattros not sure about the 5k's

Someone ran one to 475 whp on a 2.2ltr 20v before he noticed dropoff in pressure. My daily car is running 18 psi on 300cc injectors with no fuel supply issues

Gawwwd damn, I knew I shouldda checked da mobile interwebzzzzzzzzzz moar today....

Stuck my head under two Audi 5k's and some crazy kinda quattro from the early 90's....which were all K-yetzzzzzzz.....no turbos tho.


Damn, if there's a JY pump that'll work.....

Well, that'd just be the biznesssssssss]]> Mylesofsmyles Construction Zone Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:17:13 -0600 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60900#msg-60900 Re: John...I stumbled on this; What about the fuel?????? https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?5,60802,60900#msg-60900 aj_johnson Construction Zone Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:07:18 -0600