Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

czwalga — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 10:31:57 -0500

Is this death ray still around?

Need anything special or just it just hook up to the tank when you buy the liquid nitrogen?

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:16:17 -0500

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modernbeat
I've found that you can NOT spray on the liquid nitrogen. You need to either irrigate it (sprinkle) or fan the spray in such a way that the nitrogen just evaporates, or has almost evaporated as it hits the metal. It should never pool or run down the metal.

The ultra sophisticated Death Ray Gun was made of the choicest of fine alloy steel tubing that uncultured riff-raff might mistake in their appalling ignorance as "water pipe"....
Then after long and careful study of tooling, materials and optimised spray patterns the correct tools were acquired from all the available tooling and with true and precise wielding the correct semi-ovoidular shape was imparted.
Cynics have suggested that the choice was of the medium 6 lb hammer hanging within reach and that we simply wailed on the "pipe" 2 or three times, but they don't understand the need for exactitude and of grace---indeed the combined experience of "Welder Dave" and I was well over 75 years metalworking and all that was needed to unflinchingly in 2 or 3 master-strokes, forge the perfect applicator nozzle. Then of course the balance had to be carefully worked out of pressure, flow, and dwell time until a perfect harmony of sputtering LN and just the right crackling of the runner was attained and then with precise gentle taps, whole squre feet of the rubberized mass would fly off rapidly and continuously.
It is beauty in motion.

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

modernbeat — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:55:39 -0500

I've found that you can NOT spray on the liquid nitrogen. You need to either irrigate it (sprinkle) or fan the spray in such a way that the nitrogen just evaporates, or has almost evaporated as it hits the metal. It should never pool or run down the metal.

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

sidewaez — Sat, 01 Jun 2013 12:13:54 -0500

So...

-Return death ray

-kick pat in the balls

Thanks for keeping us on track John!

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Fri, 31 May 2013 12:22:41 -0500

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sidewaez
We have the death ray and we're done with it, do I need to ship it to someone?

You're done with it and haven't proptly returned it to the nice guy who slaved away for at least 15 minutes making it?

What the fuck is it wif you guys?
I make this and am nice enough to lend it out and it sits for a year somewhere in fawkin Pennsylvania or someplace horrible like that, then Grant sits on it for a couple of years and now...

Come on Pat you can see how this goes. We loose track of it and its gone for everybody..

Odd thing is there's actually 2 and i can't recall where the other one is either...

Pat, pull your wiener out and lay it on the welding table.
No whack it right on the tip!

(I ain't doing it! You have to!)

OK scolding done.
How's progress on the car?

Hows progress with being a daddy?

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sidewaez — Fri, 31 May 2013 11:12:04 -0500

We have the death ray and we're done with it, do I need to ship it to someone?

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john vanlandingham — Thu, 30 May 2013 14:35:11 -0500

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NoCoast
I sent it somewhere. If memory serves, it was back to JVAB. I think one of the Idaho guys was looking for it shortly thereafter but I don't think I sent it direct to them.
I am doubtful that the LN treatment had much to do with the failure of Dave's stuff. I think it more relates to the diff mount not being sufficient.

I'll look. Did he beat you mercilessly?

I think the failure is from what I have always said about German stuff.
One word: zu klein

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

NoCoast — Thu, 30 May 2013 14:32:30 -0500

I sent it somewhere. If memory serves, it was back to JVAB. I think one of the Idaho guys was looking for it shortly thereafter but I don't think I sent it direct to them.
I am doubtful that the LN treatment had much to do with the failure of Dave's stuff. I think it more relates to the diff mount not being sufficient.

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Thu, 30 May 2013 13:07:24 -0500

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Maybe those are flimsy pieces of alte scheisse like i been saying?:drink:

It is possible - also possible that given my swap from BMW to Toyota rear ends I simply left that part of the car to bear more load than it was designed to take.

Dave

They don't design them for any load. In BundesRepublik Deutschland, all bumps are strÃ¤ngsten verboten!

Bumps are also verboten in ganz BRD!

STRESS IST VERBOTEN!

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

DaveK — Thu, 30 May 2013 12:45:39 -0500

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john vanlandingham
Maybe those are flimsy pieces of alte scheisse like i been saying?:drink:

It is possible - also possible that given my swap from BMW to Toyota rear ends I simply left that part of the car to bear more load than it was designed to take.

Dave

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Thu, 30 May 2013 12:33:59 -0500

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DaveK

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And wait, you LQ Ned some area and had spot welds fail.. What happened to the stitchie-welds you must have had the foresight to put in what you know is a stressed area?
David, you did stitch didn't you?

It was stitch welded too - some of those welds tore, some held up...but about 30 factory spot welds popped clean apart.

Dave

Maybe those are flimsy pieces of alte scheisse like i been saying?:drink:

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

DaveK — Thu, 30 May 2013 12:31:27 -0500

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john vanlandingham
And wait, you LQ Ned some area and had spot welds fail.. What happened to the stitchie-welds you must have had the foresight to put in what you know is a stressed area?
David, you did stitch didn't you?

It was stitch welded too - some of those welds tore, some held up...but about 30 factory spot welds popped clean apart.

Dave

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Thu, 30 May 2013 12:16:09 -0500

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DaveK
I thought Grant mailed it somewhere about a year ago.

Quick question to fellow death ray'ers.

Anybody else seen issues with weakening of the sheet metal? Just had about 30 factory spot welds crack right apart (no rippin'n'tearin - clean snaps) in the trunk area where the diff was supported. Was wondering if its possible we froze the sheet metal too much? If memory serves, the sound deadening crap was thinner back there and someone did put an air hammer right thru the floor over the gas tank.

Dave

WHILE it is frozen, it can shatter.. That's while a gentle hand and a good ear is best for doing it..
I poked the ol chip hammer thru the metal a few times.

And wait, you LQ Ned some area and had spot welds fail.. What happened to the stitchie-welds you must have had the foresight to put in what you know is a stressed area?
David, you did stitch didn't you?

David I want to to go stand in the corner till you decide to tell us why you didn't stitch an area you cleaned that you know is stressed.

Go!
Nose in the corner.
No talking till you tell us..

(well, I never!---harumph!) [/school marm voice off]

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

DaveK — Thu, 30 May 2013 11:58:46 -0500

I thought Grant mailed it somewhere about a year ago.

Quick question to fellow death ray'ers.

Anybody else seen issues with weakening of the sheet metal? Just had about 30 factory spot welds crack right apart (no rippin'n'tearin - clean snaps) in the trunk area where the diff was supported. Was wondering if its possible we froze the sheet metal too much? If memory serves, the sound deadening crap was thinner back there and someone did put an air hammer right thru the floor over the gas tank.

Dave

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Wed, 29 May 2013 23:38:23 -0500

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EricW
Just planning ahead - scoring another blue subaru shell to start preparing properly this time around. After all, I DID go racing without doing much shell prep... while racing, why not putter in the garage on the next shell for when I eventually wad up the current car? :)

JVL - is the death ray still a rentable unit?

Never was rentable. Like about 405 of the things I dop it was done as a LOANER deal...ya know, community building? Helping others do stuff they may not have thought about, that sorta thing..
I'll look and see if its actually here. It was in Denver so long I had thought it gone forever. It MAY have been returned so maybe the best thing to do is go bitch-slap Grant for a few minutes then ax him if he sent it back, that would be easier than me looking around.

Wait! You're down in SC...

I got it! PM Dave Kern and ax him to bitch-slap Grant....I don't think more than 3-5 minutes would be needed.. OK?

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

EricW — Wed, 29 May 2013 22:53:46 -0500

Just planning ahead - scoring another blue subaru shell to start preparing properly this time around. After all, I DID go racing without doing much shell prep... while racing, why not putter in the garage on the next shell for when I eventually wad up the current car? :)

JVL - is the death ray still a rentable unit?

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

modernbeat — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:29:09 -0500

Harry Browne, Mike Badnarik, Bob Barr. Now where's my prize!

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Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:51:42 -0500

modernbeat Wrote:
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> So, what do I need to do to get the Death-Ray
> shipped to Texas? Call JVL and suffer through a
> marathon phone call? Or does somebody else have it
> check out?

Tell me what Party you voted for in '00 and '04 and '08.
>
> Jason McDaniel

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

modernbeat — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:46:31 -0500

So, what do I need to do to get the Death-Ray shipped to Texas? Call JVL and suffer through a marathon phone call? Or does somebody else have it check out?

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

John Cassidy — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:01:21 -0600

Mike, haven't been paying attention to the forum lately-been in the barn wire wheeling and burning undercoating off! ;-)

Anyway, we were going to get a dewar, but decided not to. Don't know why. We may yet rent one to finish cleaning the inside. Talked the the local guys months ago and they have one for rent with a long flexible hose.

Good luck and don't stick your tongue on the wand! ;-)

Cheers! John

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:20:50 -0600

Rallyho Wrote:
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> John, the tank has been reserved for next weekend
> (2/17). Did the ray gun get out the door from
> your place yet?
>
> Oh, went to PN last weekend. Plenty of good stuff
> to see...Antoin, ACP, Sylvan and Iorio definitely
> know how to get down the road man...
>
> Rallyho
> Mike White

Deathe Ray is on the way
Tracking number is:
1Z940x040366212292
Cost was $11.00
You have the Paypal address.

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

Rallyho — Wed, 07 Feb 2007 10:22:00 -0600

John, the tank has been reserved for next weekend (2/17). Did the ray gun get out the door from your place yet?

Oh, went to PN last weekend. Plenty of good stuff to see...Antoin, ACP, Sylvan and Iorio definitely know how to get down the road man...

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

tedm — Sun, 28 Jan 2007 08:53:38 -0600

"then get good and drunk and sawzall the cage out."

"Fantasy? You been peeking into my head? If so, you would know that it involves Natalie Portman in that lab coat waving the Nitrogen hose around while threatening to give Tednecks a Cryo-enema...but I digress."

Both posts are examples of "Tedneck baiting". While Tednecks may always be in season, online "baiting" of the critters is specifically not allowed. I have informed the moderators. BTW, Tedneck's beleive that cryogenic temperatures dull the nerves and they prefer that Nat puts something a little hotter up their tail-pipes.

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:18:55 -0600

Rallyho Wrote:
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> Fantasy? You been peeking into my head? If so,
> you would know that it involves Natalie Portman in
> that lab coat waving the Nitrogen hose around
> while threatening to give Tednecks a
> Cryo-enema...but I digress.

this dream is useless without pictures
>
>
>
> Rallyho
> Mike White

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

Rallyho — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:10:14 -0600

Fantasy? You been peeking into my head? If so, you would know that it involves Natalie Portman in that lab coat waving the Nitrogen hose around while threatening to give Tednecks a Cryo-enema...but I digress.

Yes, I was trying to ahead because I want to do this on the weekend of Feb 17th... but I will wait for the Ray Gun.

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

john vanlandingham — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:00:52 -0600

Rallyho Wrote:
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> The local air/gas guys can make available a 500
> POUND tank of the stuff for pretty short money.
> Tank rental and gas is probably somewhere around
> $150.
>
> Their question was how was I gonna get it onto the
> car. Their "cryo hoses" are usually only 18-24in
> long. What have you guys had made or pieced
> together to make this work?
>
> Since I ain't gonna be rolling a 500lb tank around
> I'm thinking I need at least 20feet...which they
> say may be so long the Nitrogen will gas in the
> line.
>
> Thoughts?

You think way too much IN ADVANCE which isn't thinking, with no data, its merely fantasy.
Stop thinking in advance.
The past is a memory, the future but a dream, only the present is real
(Some guy)
>
> Rallyho
> Mike White

Mike you just have to wait till the Death Ray Gunâ„¢ arrives.
The tanks have nice grab rails arund the top, you simply tilt and roll on the edge while tipping and balancing.
No problem, quit snivelling compoooter boy!

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

fiasco — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:13:52 -0600

I think you have to go for the "put tank on dolly and make the neighbors think you're setting up a meth lab" approach.

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

Rallyho — Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:29:29 -0600

The local air/gas guys can make available a 500 POUND tank of the stuff for pretty short money. Tank rental and gas is probably somewhere around $150.

Their question was how was I gonna get it onto the car. Their "cryo hoses" are usually only 18-24in long. What have you guys had made or pieced together to make this work?

Since I ain't gonna be rolling a 500lb tank around I'm thinking I need at least 20feet...which they say may be so long the Nitrogen will gas in the line.

Thoughts?

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

Phlyan Pan — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:23:35 -0600

Is it just me or does this death ray bear a striking resemblance to a fire extinguisher?

Re: Liquid Nitrogen Death Ray

Rallyho — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:50:04 -0600

John-
I know I can be a stuborn sometimes, and have no short-term memory, but the mentoring is always welcome.

Send Death Ray to:

Mike White
C/O Know Technology
39 Mechanic Street
Suite 310
Camden, ME 04843

Andrew, If that Makita/Dolmar thing has a blender attachment it's a must have.

Thought I was done with the black-lung from Sat, until I sneezed out a Black-Booger-of-Deat this morning. And no, I did not take a picture of it.