I bought a Toyota 20 Valve Silver Top motor for my AE86 that I'm not going to use. I paid like $400 for it...just looking to get that back, if possible. I can send pictures.... Andrew andrew @ universalrally.com https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13104#msg-13104 Fri, 26 Jun 2026 04:51:44 -0500 Phorum 5.2.15a https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,15088#msg-15088 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,15088#msg-15088 urr Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 12 May 2008 13:00:39 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,14263#msg-14263 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,14263#msg-14263 Dazed_Driver Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:08:32 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13886#msg-13886 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13886#msg-13886 -------------------------------------------------------
> Yeah, if I have to wait any longer I'll start
> focusing on school!!!! OH MY GOD!
>
> Feisty Peacock?

OH! NOSE!!!!

]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:52:03 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13879#msg-13879 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13879#msg-13879 Dazed_Driver Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:30:26 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13872#msg-13872 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13872#msg-13872 -------------------------------------------------------
> hey...been thrashing trying to get the new car
> ready for Olympus...8 days till I have to leave So
> Cal and it still hasn't started for the first
> time. I'll be able to think after the 20th...


Don't you understand you making an 18 year old wait!!!!

God only knows what will happen if he has to wait!!!!!
Good god man think!

And I still say I'll give you FIVE DOLLAH!!! Five DOLLAH American Money!!

]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:13:59 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13870#msg-13870 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13870#msg-13870 urr Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:04:19 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13808#msg-13808 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13808#msg-13808 Dazed_Driver Buy, Sell & Trade Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:39:11 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13701#msg-13701 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13701#msg-13701 Dazed_Driver Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:05:32 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13692#msg-13692 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13692#msg-13692 urr Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:10:07 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13687#msg-13687 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13687#msg-13687 -------------------------------------------------------
> Can I buy your throttles yet?
>
>
> Feisty Peacock?

FIVE DOLLAH!!!
]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:18:43 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13684#msg-13684 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13684#msg-13684 ]]> Dazed_Driver Buy, Sell & Trade Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:33:22 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13593#msg-13593 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13593#msg-13593
To reduce costs they switched to a MSR 2.3 Mazda engine built by Cosworth. I don't know the cam specs for sure on the race motor but the 260 horse version has 282 Duration / 11.3mm lift / 111ATDC. So the 300 horse version is prolly a shade over 300 duration. Motors are 12:1 compression and run on 108 octane leaded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_Atlantic#Race_equipment]]> pikespeakgtx Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:45:08 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13578#msg-13578 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13578#msg-13578 -------------------------------------------------------
> heymagic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I've read some wildly varying dyno results.
> How do
> > they actually calibrate those things ?
>
>
> Don't know but the pretty 1600 up there costs
> $45,000.
>
> Yeah just the ticket.
>
> John Vanlandingham
> Sleezattle, WA, USA
>
> Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
>
> www.jvab.f4.ca

Can someone explain why?
Is it all RandD?
For 45K i think even i could get that much power out of that motor
]]> turoc Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:04:57 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13577#msg-13577 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13577#msg-13577 -------------------------------------------------------
> I've read some wildly varying dyno results. How do
> they actually calibrate those things ?


Don't know but the pretty 1600 up there costs $45,000.

Yeah just the ticket.]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:42:21 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13576#msg-13576 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13576#msg-13576 heymagic Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:14:56 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13575#msg-13575 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13575#msg-13575 -------------------------------------------------------
> At least I'm not making weird observations that
> sound like veiled threats about murder.

You're missing out! It's quite fun, you should try it :)]]> hudson Buy, Sell & Trade Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:02:42 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13574#msg-13574 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13574#msg-13574 -------------------------------------------------------
> john vanlandingham Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Formula Atlantic 1.6 liter 16v 4ag's
> made
> > about
> > > 250 hp... NA
> > >
> > > Feisty Peacock?
> > When they were new and got the contract my
> memory
> > says they made 212-220 bhp.
> >
> > But like everything else the number just
> keep
> > growing.
> >
> > I wonder when those old motors made back then
> will
> > reach 300?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Vanlandingham
> > Sleezattle, WA, USA
> >
> > Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
> >
> > www.jvab.f4.ca
>
>
> Ok, I made a mistake. Sue me. Have you gotten
> bitter within the last 4 months I've known you?

Not at all, we're just talking here.
At least I'm not making weird observations that sound like veiled threats about murder.
>
>
> Feisty Peacock?


]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:58:09 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13569#msg-13569 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13569#msg-13569
Hasselgren motor's (4ag)f.a. are making 260hp!]]> pikespeakgtx Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:36:51 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13554#msg-13554 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13554#msg-13554 urr Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:21:33 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13550#msg-13550 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13550#msg-13550 -------------------------------------------------------
> john vanlandingham Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Formula Atlantic 1.6 liter 16v 4ag's
> made
> > about
> > > 250 hp... NA
> > >
> > > Feisty Peacock?
> > When they were new and got the contract my
> memory
> > says they made 212-220 bhp.
> >
> > But like everything else the number just
> keep
> > growing.
> >
> > I wonder when those old motors made back then
> will
> > reach 300?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Vanlandingham
> > Sleezattle, WA, USA
> >
> > Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
> >
> > www.jvab.f4.ca
>
>
> Ok, I made a mistake. Sue me. Have you gotten
> bitter within the last 4 months I've known you?
>
>
> Feisty Peacock?


Here is an Atlantic engine in the Hasselgren drift car that makes 260hp NA


Why is there so much angst (teenage or otherwise) going around today? This isn't friggin MySpace. We all still like cars that go fast in the woods.

Tim

EDIT: Hey, somebody buy his engine!]]> Tim Taylor Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:42:02 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13549#msg-13549 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13549#msg-13549 -------------------------------------------------------
> Dazed_Driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Formula Atlantic 1.6 liter 16v 4ag's made
> about
> > 250 hp... NA
> >
> > Feisty Peacock?
> When they were new and got the contract my memory
> says they made 212-220 bhp.
>
> But like everything else the number just keep
> growing.
>
> I wonder when those old motors made back then will
> reach 300?
>
>
>
>
> John Vanlandingham
> Sleezattle, WA, USA
>
> Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
>
> www.jvab.f4.ca


Ok, I made a mistake. Sue me. Have you gotten bitter within the last 4 months I've known you?
]]> Dazed_Driver Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:48:43 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13548#msg-13548 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13548#msg-13548 Dazed_Driver Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:47:29 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13539#msg-13539 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13539#msg-13539 -------------------------------------------------------
> Hell weren't BDAs making 250-odd HP in the
> *seventies*, from 2 liter carbureted engines?
>
>
Rally Cosworth BDGs were making 262 by 1977 @10,000 rpm
BDGs are 2,0

and just how much larger in percent is 2,0 than 1,6?
Yeeeeeeeeees? You there in back.

Yes about 25% larger.
And what is about 25% of 210-212 bhp, class?
Anyone?
Bueller?

And not to burst the bubbles of all the 4AGE fans here, a 4AGE is not a BDA or a BDG.
Spend 15,000 and it CAN BE.
But man is this off base now.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pete Remner
> Cleveland, Ohio
>
> 1984 RX-7 reshell
> 1978


]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:02:41 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13536#msg-13536 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13536#msg-13536
And what's wrong with warming up 3hr before the race? You gotta warm it up, then after it's hot change the "warmup" plugs to the "race" plugs, change the oil, and recheck/reset the valve lash...




]]> Pete Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:47:58 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13534#msg-13534 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13534#msg-13534 Opel GSI motors did that as well infact rumored to be around 280+]]> turoc Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:21:18 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13531#msg-13531 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13531#msg-13531 -------------------------------------------------------
> Formula Atlantic 1.6 liter 16v 4ag's made about
> 250 hp... NA
>
> Feisty Peacock?
When they were new and got the contract my memory says they made 212-220 bhp.

But like everything else the number just keep growing.

I wonder when those old motors made back then will reach 300?


]]> john vanlandingham Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:37:08 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13528#msg-13528 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13528#msg-13528
But again, not something attainable by mortals, so why bother wasting time over it?]]> Carl S Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 05:48:02 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13527#msg-13527 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13527#msg-13527 Dazed_Driver Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:33:40 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13526#msg-13526 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13526#msg-13526 It's got me curious as to the smallest 4cyl displacement and still make 300 horsepower. Since it all depends on how high you can rev at some point the rotating mass of larger displacement is going to work against you. I wish I had a better "feel" for that balance at the ultimate limit. I would have to guess that it would have to at least be 2.0L to make 300hp.

I have to admit I'm a converting to rally from drag racing. I'm a drag racing guy at heart, it's sad and embarrassing I know. Bracket racing even. But it's what I grew up around and a few of my buddies made it pretty big into the import drag scene. So it was always cool hanging out with them. One guy in particular was big into the NA 4cyls. Scott made 310hp @ the WHEELS with his MOPAR 2.4L four or five years ago when he drove his neon in the NHRA Sport Compact series.

From what I recall these motors below are in the 300 club. There's probably a ton more exotic ones but I mostly know American and Jap stuff.

Honda K24, H23A
Toyota 2.4
Ford 2.3
Mopar 2.4
Pontiac 2.5 SD4
Olds Quad 4 2.3

Anyway it's bedtime. Urr...Sorry about hijacking your thread. You're supposed to be a selling a motor here and I'm blabbing in your thread. In my defense, this is anarchy after all and I had something to say, so I said it. goodnight





]]> pikespeakgtx Buy, Sell & Trade Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:29:01 -0500 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13522#msg-13522 https://www.rallyanarchy.com/phorum/read.php?7,13104,13522#msg-13522 hudson Buy, Sell & Trade Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:46:30 -0500